Trump video raises sexual assault charges against Bill Clinton

[Tom Sawyer]

http://talkfreethought.org/showthread.php?8306-Hobbey-Horse-Derails

 

[Artemus]

I think this move of Trump's is going to backfire. The kneejerk Clinton-haters already know this (or hate her for other reasons). More moderate people will either go "meh" or possibly be turned off by attacking a candidate through the candidate's spouse. And more importantly, it opens the door for Clinton supporters to remind people of the allegations of sexual violence and rape against Donald Drumpf.

It backfired on the republicans who tried to throw him out of office 20 years ago. Hard to believe that anyone can be stupid enough to try to hold it against his wife.

 

[braces_for_impact]

I think this move of Trump's is going to backfire. The kneejerk Clinton-haters already know this (or hate her for other reasons). More moderate people will either go "meh" or possibly be turned off by attacking a candidate through the candidate's spouse. And more importantly, it opens the door for Clinton supporters to remind people of the allegations of sexual violence and rape against Donald Drumpf.

It backfired on the republicans who tried to throw him out of office 20 years ago. Hard to believe that anyone can be stupid enough to try to hold it against his wife.

Perfectly "rational" if you're Trump or like minded. He's said in the past that Bill's alleged indiscretions were her fault for being unable to 'keep her own man happy' or something to that effect.

Trump being Trump though, Hillary doesn't have to fight dirty. The idiot is a goldmine of ready material to show his ineptitude and unsuitability for office.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Well, Trump's position does make sense. If his affairs and sexual harassment are brought up in the campaign, it allows him to blame whomever his wife was at the time and not have it be an issue about him.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Clinton should start a XM/Sirius station that just plays Donald Trump interviews dating back to the 1980s.

 

[Elixir]

We all owe Mister Trump a vote of thanks for alerting us to the vast number of abysmally stupid people comprising nearly half of the electorate.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

The problem with this sort of attack on Clinton is, Trumps brutal treatment of his ex-wife will be fair game and its just as ugly.

 

[Rhea]

The problem with this sort of attack on Clinton is, Trumps brutal treatment of his ex-wife will be fair game and its just as ugly.

It's more ugly. He personally did it.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

The Clinton campaign is saying that Trump paid off the woman to lie that Bill Clinton groped her.

Is the victim involved in a conspiracy?

 

[Derec]

Perfectly "rational" if you're Trump or like minded. He's said in the past that Bill's alleged indiscretions were her fault for being unable to 'keep her own man happy' or something to that effect.

Trump being Trump though, Hillary doesn't have to fight dirty. The idiot is a goldmine of ready material to show his ineptitude and unsuitability for office.

The problem is, so is Hillary.

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Clinton should start a XM/Sirius station that just plays Donald Trump interviews dating back to the 1980s.

Given recent history, it would probably improve his polling numbers.

 

[Derec]

And of course, violent protesters are back in force.
Protests turn violent at Trump’s New Mexico rally

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Trump being Trump though, Hillary doesn't have to fight dirty. The idiot is a goldmine of ready material to show his ineptitude and unsuitability for office.

The problem is, so is Hillary.

First off, Trump actually Tweeted that?!

And secondly, umm... no. Hillary Clinton has had a ton of stuff thrown at her, but generally, she comes out a little tarnished, but otherwise unscathed. And the stuff on Trump is less insinuation and much more, crap that has come out of his mouth.

Clinton should start a XM/Sirius station that just plays Donald Trump interviews dating back to the 1980s.

Given recent history, it would probably improve his polling numbers.

In Republican polling, yes. But this is the General Election now.

 

[Rhea]

And of course, violent protesters are back in force.
Protests turn violent at Trump’s New Mexico rally

Damnit. I wish those protesters would stay the hell home. Not helping, IMHO.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

And of course, violent protesters are back in force.
Protests turn violent at Trump’s New Mexico rally

Damnit. I wish those protesters would stay the hell home. Not helping, IMHO.

At this point I remember the grassroots "mob" that stormed the Palm Beach Canvassing Board building in 2000. Turned out to be Republican operatives. I don't trust anything with the Trump campaign at this point. They'd stage their own anti-Trump protests.

 

[Rhea]

Damnit. I wish those protesters would stay the hell home. Not helping, IMHO.

At this point I remember the grassroots "mob" that stormed the Palm Beach Canvassing Board building in 2000. Turned out to be Republican operatives. I don't trust anything with the Trump campaign at this point. They'd stage their own anti-Trump protests.

Excellent point. If anyone would be the type to do that, it would be John Barron.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

At this point I remember the grassroots "mob" that stormed the Palm Beach Canvassing Board building in 2000. Turned out to be Republican operatives. I don't trust anything with the Trump campaign at this point. They'd stage their own anti-Trump protests.

Excellent point. If anyone would be the type to do that, it would be John Barron.

To be clear, if truly anti-Trump people are protesting, burning shirts and signs, that is bad. Throwing bottles at police horses, that is criminal. It shouldn't happen and it should not be condoned.

 

[Rhea]

Excellent point. If anyone would be the type to do that, it would be John Barron.

To be clear, if truly anti-Trump people are protesting, burning shirts and signs, that is bad. Throwing bottles at police horses, that is criminal. It shouldn't happen and it should not be condoned.

Agreed completely. Inexcusable from anyone.

 

[Derec]

At this point I remember the grassroots "mob" that stormed the Palm Beach Canvassing Board building in 2000. Turned out to be Republican operatives. I don't trust anything with the Trump campaign at this point. They'd stage their own anti-Trump protests.

Do you really think these rioters are Trump supporters?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

At this point I remember the grassroots "mob" that stormed the Palm Beach Canvassing Board building in 2000. Turned out to be Republican operatives. I don't trust anything with the Trump campaign at this point. They'd stage their own anti-Trump protests.

Do you really think these rioters are Trump supporters?

I am stating I don't know who they are and I condemn their actions (burning and assaulting officers/horses). I can believe there are people protesting Trump in bad ways to criminals ways. I can also believe the Trump campaign would stage a protest. Republicans have done it before.

 

[Derec]

First off, Trump actually Tweeted that?!

Yes.

And secondly, umm... no. Hillary Clinton has had a ton of stuff thrown at her, but generally, she comes out a little tarnished, but otherwise unscathed. And the stuff on Trump is less insinuation and much more, crap that has come out of his mouth.

Unfortunately Hillary is pretty much made of teflon. Anybody else with her history of lies and bad judgment would have been relegated out of politics a long time ago.

But I do think her lying about being under sniper fire in Bosnia while campaigning for president is more significant than Trump talking with Howard Stern 15 years ago.
Or her use of homebrew server for official business.
Hillary Clinton Is Criticized for Private Emails in State Dept. Review
Even if not technically criminal, Servergate shows very poor judgment on her part.

In Republican polling, yes. But this is the General Election now.

Where independents are important and she did poorly with independents.