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A US army sergeant and ride-share service driver has been found guilty of the murder of a protester during a Black Lives Matter rally in 2020 in Austin, Texas.

After an eight-day trial and two days of verdict deliberations, a jury in Travis county, Texas, found 33-year-old Daniel Perry guilty of murdering air force veteran Garrett Foster, 28. Perry is white, as was Foster.

While the jury also found Perry not guilty of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, the murder conviction left him facing a maximum of life imprisonment. He could be sentenced as soon as next week, according to the local television news outlet KXAN.

However, Texas’s Republican extremist governor Greg Abbott said on Saturday on Twitter that he was already working on pardoning Perry from his conviction, which he called an attempted jury nullification of Texas’s self-defense law.
In court, prosecutors brought up Facebook messages that Perry sent prior to Foster’s killing.

In one message, Perry wrote: “No protesters go near me or my car” and “I might go to Dallas to shoot looters,” the Austin television news outlet KTBC reported.

Another message that Perry sent on 31 May 2020 said: “I might have to kill a few people on my way to work they are rioting outside my apartment complex.” A few days later, Perry commented on a Facebook post of a video titled Protesters Looters Get Shot San Antonio Texas, writing, “glad someone finally did something”.

During the trial, Austin police detective William Bursley testified about evidence found on Perry’s cellphone. Part of the evidence included online searches for “protest tonight”, “protesters in Seattle gets shot”, “riot shootouts” and “protests in Dallas live”.
 
A US army sergeant and ride-share service driver has been found guilty of the murder of a protester during a Black Lives Matter rally in 2020 in Austin, Texas.

After an eight-day trial and two days of verdict deliberations, a jury in Travis county, Texas, found 33-year-old Daniel Perry guilty of murdering air force veteran Garrett Foster, 28. Perry is white, as was Foster.

While the jury also found Perry not guilty of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, the murder conviction left him facing a maximum of life imprisonment. He could be sentenced as soon as next week, according to the local television news outlet KXAN.

However, Texas’s Republican extremist governor Greg Abbott said on Saturday on Twitter that he was already working on pardoning Perry from his conviction, which he called an attempted jury nullification of Texas’s self-defense law.
In court, prosecutors brought up Facebook messages that Perry sent prior to Foster’s killing.

In one message, Perry wrote: “No protesters go near me or my car” and “I might go to Dallas to shoot looters,” the Austin television news outlet KTBC reported.

Another message that Perry sent on 31 May 2020 said: “I might have to kill a few people on my way to work they are rioting outside my apartment complex.” A few days later, Perry commented on a Facebook post of a video titled Protesters Looters Get Shot San Antonio Texas, writing, “glad someone finally did something”.

During the trial, Austin police detective William Bursley testified about evidence found on Perry’s cellphone. Part of the evidence included online searches for “protest tonight”, “protesters in Seattle gets shot”, “riot shootouts” and “protests in Dallas live”.
The Texas government can't pardon a decision made by a us Courtsmarshal, though, can it? I didn't think that a state governor can void a federal offense on a system of federal law, especially military law.

Perhaps this is the "virtue signal" kernel: they know they can make a meaningless gesture by pardoning the state crimes without having to deal with the fallout because the UCMJ will keep them locked up.
 
A US army sergeant and ride-share service driver has been found guilty of the murder of a protester during a Black Lives Matter rally in 2020 in Austin, Texas.

After an eight-day trial and two days of verdict deliberations, a jury in Travis county, Texas, found 33-year-old Daniel Perry guilty of murdering air force veteran Garrett Foster, 28. Perry is white, as was Foster.

While the jury also found Perry not guilty of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, the murder conviction left him facing a maximum of life imprisonment. He could be sentenced as soon as next week, according to the local television news outlet KXAN.

However, Texas’s Republican extremist governor Greg Abbott said on Saturday on Twitter that he was already working on pardoning Perry from his conviction, which he called an attempted jury nullification of Texas’s self-defense law.
In court, prosecutors brought up Facebook messages that Perry sent prior to Foster’s killing.

In one message, Perry wrote: “No protesters go near me or my car” and “I might go to Dallas to shoot looters,” the Austin television news outlet KTBC reported.

Another message that Perry sent on 31 May 2020 said: “I might have to kill a few people on my way to work they are rioting outside my apartment complex.” A few days later, Perry commented on a Facebook post of a video titled Protesters Looters Get Shot San Antonio Texas, writing, “glad someone finally did something”.

During the trial, Austin police detective William Bursley testified about evidence found on Perry’s cellphone. Part of the evidence included online searches for “protest tonight”, “protesters in Seattle gets shot”, “riot shootouts” and “protests in Dallas live”.
The Texas government can't pardon a decision made by a us Courtsmarshal, though, can it? I didn't think that a state governor can void a federal offense on a system of federal law, especially military law.

Perhaps this is the "virtue signal" kernel: they know they can make a meaningless gesture by pardoning the state crimes without having to deal with the fallout because the UCMJ will keep them locked up.
No, he couldn’t. He also can’t do anything if the Feds convict on civil rights violations.
 
So now carrying "assault weapons" and threatening people with it is good? Just checking.

This is the dead guy btw.
 
Good or legal? I don't think any person should be allowed to open carry guns, period. That doesn't give me carte blanche to shot someone that is.

This is the problem with open carry. Except white conservatives, who get to judge who shoots first. Having guns like that in the open just invites chaos.

The question is, did the shooter have a reasonable sense of threat of his life. If a bunch of armed people were surrounding me, yeah, I'd be worried. But that is the utopia YOU PEOPLE want. People interpreted Rittenshouse as a threat... but you mocked that. Instead you seem to be implying this guy was right to think the guy with rifle was a threat. And again, we are stuck with a he said - other guy is dead and can't say situation. Where the shooter is definitely rewarded for lying in his best interests.

But as far as the guy that died, that was in Texas, where guns only stand aside to high school football as a religion.
 
Good or legal? I don't think any person should be allowed to open carry guns, period. That doesn't give me carte blanche to shot someone that is.
I was thinking of the discrepancy in how Foster is described by the left vs. how somebody like Rittenhouse was. The latter is still one of the most hated men by the fauxgressive left.

This is the problem with open carry.
That is indeed a problem. Two people with weapons can easily genuinely and reasonably feel threatened by each other.
Except white conservatives, who get to judge who shoots first.
Not sure . It was the jury in Austin, hardly a "conservative" city, that did the judging here.
Having guns like that in the open just invites chaos.
Agreed. Especially during a riot.
The question is, did the shooter have a reasonable sense of threat of his life. If a bunch of armed people were surrounding me, yeah, I'd be worried.
Perry was surrounded by an angry mob, and one of them (Foster) was visibly armed. His social media posts are worrying, but Foster also had extremist content. Seems like asshole on asshole shooting.
The question is: had Foster shot first, what would you and others on here be saying about it? How would Grauniad and other lefty media be reporting it? How would an Austin jury rule, or would the lefty DA even bring charges?

But that is the utopia YOU PEOPLE want. People interpreted Rittenshouse as a threat... but you mocked that.
There was a lot of video evidence presented at that trial, and none of it showed Ritt behaving threateningly until he was himself attacked. That is despite the best efforts of that hipster prosecutor to make it seem that way. On the other hand, kid-fucker Rosenbaum was behaving angrily and threateningly even before he encountered Ritt.
Instead you seem to be implying this guy was right to think the guy with rifle was a threat.
If Foster was part of the mob that was surrounding Perry, I could see there being a treat. Perry also testified that Foster aimed the gun at him, which is threatening per se. Unfortunately there was no video showing the actual shooting.
 
Ya know, In certain countries under specific circumstances, citizens openly carry weapons as a means to actively overthrow a government. In the United States, the primary justification for open carry is often rooted in "look mom! I have a constitutional right!!"
 
Good or legal? I don't think any person should be allowed to open carry guns, period. That doesn't give me carte blanche to shot someone that is.
I was thinking of the discrepancy in how Foster is described by the left vs. how somebody like Rittenhouse was.
RIttenhouse killed three people. Foster shot at zero and killed zero people. Is this the discrepancy you are speaking of?
The latter is still one of the most hated men by the fauxgressive left.
He killed three people after inserting himself in a situation that was dangerous and he wasn't trained for... and has shown zero remorse. I have shown more remorse for accidentally cutting someone off on the highway than he showed in the shooting deaths of three people at a protest he shouldn't have been at (trying to keep the peace).
The question is, did the shooter have a reasonable sense of threat of his life. If a bunch of armed people were surrounding me, yeah, I'd be worried.
Perry was surrounded by an angry mob, and one of them (Foster) was visibly armed. His social media posts are worrying, but Foster also had extremist content. Seems like asshole on asshole shooting.
Firstly, I don't think there is evidence to suggest that Perry was "surrounded by an angry mob". There are questions as to whether he more accurately inserted him and his car in side the protestors.
The question is: had Foster shot first, what would you and others on here be saying about it? How would Grauniad and other lefty media be reporting it? How would an Austin jury rule, or would the lefty DA even bring charges?
That isn't remotely relevant. Really the relevant question is whether Foster aimed his gun at the Perry signifying a reasonable intent on his life. Or whether Perry legitimately felt fear for his life.
Instead you seem to be implying this guy was right to think the guy with rifle was a threat.
If Foster was part of the mob that was surrounding Perry, I could see there being a treat. Perry also testified that Foster aimed the gun at him, which is threatening per se. Unfortunately there was no video showing the actual shooting.
No video of the shooting, but you keep:
1) calling it a mob
2) saying that the people surrounded Perry

Yes, this is the narrative Perry and his lawyer want to sell. Perry isn't going to say he drove his car directly into the protest, waving furiously at the protestors. It sounds better calling them a mob and that they surrounded him. I don't know what happened. But, you know just as much, yet saturate your language with bias, not facts.
 
RIttenhouse killed three people.
He did not. He shot three, and killed two, in self defense. Grosskreutz survived. He even testified at trial. It did not help the prosecution.
Foster shot at zero and killed zero people. Is this the discrepancy you are speaking of?
The discrepancy is how people at protests/riots armed with "assault weapons" are viewed.
Same with heavily armed militias. White militia == evil. Black militia == righteous.
Had Foster shot Perry, would you guys be defending him still? I think so.
He killed three people after inserting himself in a situation that was dangerous and he wasn't trained for... and has shown zero remorse.
Again, he defended himself from attack.

a protest he shouldn't have been at (trying to keep the peace).
The three Antifas should not have been there. In fact, nobody should have been there.
The Jacob Blake issue was a stupid one to protest over, much less riot.
Firstly, I don't think there is evidence to suggest that Perry was "surrounded by an angry mob". There are questions as to whether he more accurately inserted him and his car in side the protestors.
#BLM mobs in Summer 2020 were invariably angry. What are you talking about?

That isn't remotely relevant. Really the relevant question is whether Foster aimed his gun at the Perry signifying a reasonable intent on his life. Or whether Perry legitimately felt fear for his life.
For the question of self defense, yes. That is the relevant issue.
This is the politics forum. On here it is a relevant question how Foster would have been viewed had he shot and killed Perry. I think that the same people who vilify RItt would be praising him.


No video of the shooting, but you keep:
1) calling it a mob
2) saying that the people surrounded Perry
The videos that exist show a mob. So 1 is given. 2 is neither proven nor disproven. Benefit of the doubt should go to the defendant.

But, you know just as much, yet saturate your language with bias, not facts.
I am just baffled at the amount of vilification 17 year old Ritt gets for showing up with an AR15 when a much older (who should have thus known better) Foster with an AK47 is not getting any criticism for showing up with his rifle.
Ritt could easily have been killed by one of the Antifas who attacked him as well. So his conduct was definitely reckless. But conversely, so was Foster's.
 
nobody should have been there.
Because Derec doesn’t like the ideas that Black Lives Matter.
Tough nougies, Derec.
Only idiots and agitators show up at protests with assault rifles. Nobody would have attacked that Rittenhaus punk if he not been conspicuously armed and looking for someone to shoot.
 
So now carrying "assault weapons" and threatening people with it is good? Just checking.

This is the dead guy btw.

The reason the case is murder is that he didn't have clean hands. The shooter provoked the situation and then shot a protester who reacted.
 
If you read the complete article, it was the perp that drove into the mob. The mob did not come to him. If he had just stayed stopped and waited for them to pass this would not have happened.
 
Perdoname. ¿Donde esta la biblioteca?
 
That isn't remotely relevant. Really the relevant question is whether Foster aimed his gun at the Perry signifying a reasonable intent on his life. Or whether Perry legitimately felt fear for his life.
For the question of self defense, yes. That is the relevant issue.
This is the politics forum. On here it is a relevant question how Foster would have been viewed had he shot and killed Perry. I think that the same people who vilify RItt would be praising him.
That'd be a derail. The only viable excuse for either man killing each other was the imminent threat to their life. Your obsession over gun wielding leftists is oddly out of line with your position on gun wielding alt-righters. For whatever reason, you want to make this about how liberals would have supported the murder of the man in the car. Which is just intolerably baseless.
No video of the shooting, but you keep:
1) calling it a mob
2) saying that the people surrounded Perry
The videos that exist show a mob. So 1 is given. 2 is neither proven nor disproven. Benefit of the doubt should go to the defendant.
Are we using a lighter term for mob... because if that was a mob, the guy in the car wouldn't have been able to drive off.
But, you know just as much, yet saturate your language with bias, not facts.
I am just baffled at the amount of vilification 17 year old Ritt gets for showing up with an AR15 when a much older (who should have thus known better) Foster with an AK47 is not getting any criticism for showing up with his rifle.
An underaged Rittenhouse showed up armed to police a protest. If memory serves, he tried to house in with some right-wing militia types but was booted out, likely because he didn't belong there.

The other guy was a military veteran with firearm experience, and probably some level of combat training experience. These two things aren't remotely comparable. And I've already said I don't think he should have had a weapon at the protest. You skip over stuff like that. But the fact of the matter is, he was not violating the law. I don't support such laws, but the right-wing has been pretty up front about how much they don't give a fuck about what I think about open carry laws.
 
Your obsession over gun wielding leftists is oddly out of line with your position on gun wielding alt-righters.
If you lead that horse to water, you will find that at the root of all his complaints, is GUNS. He can’t seem to bring himself to realize that guns are what he’s complaining about, not BLMers or Lib’ruls. BLM and Leftists are just boogeyman placeholders for the GUNS that are the actual problem that keeps Derec awake.
 
Your obsession over gun wielding leftists is oddly out of line with your position on gun wielding alt-righters.
If you lead that horse to water, you will find that at the root of all his complaints, is GUNS. He can’t seem to bring himself to realize that guns are what he’s complaining about, not BLMers or Lib’ruls. BLM and Leftists are just boogeyman placeholders for the GUNS that are the actual problem that keeps Derec awake.
It is incredible... gun wielding Rittenhouse shouldn't have been considered a threat by protestors... while gun wielding leftist protestor (who likely didn't need a ride from mommy to get to the protest) should have been considered a threat.
 
From what I can tell, it appears the argument that the governor of Texas and Derec are making is that is legal to kill any perceived leftist who is either carrying a weapon or scaring you.
 
From what I can tell, it appears the argument that the governor of Texas and Derec are making is that is legal to kill any perceived leftist who is either carrying a weapon or scaring you.
Yeah, personifying the threat provides some comfort to the insecure. You can kill lefties, but you can’t kill guns. So, which is the addressable problem? Why, lefties of course.
 
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