Use of the term "woke" by white people is arrogance

[Jarhyn]

I just realized that I can't recall ever hearing the term "woke" being used in a non-derogatory sense. But language is fluent. Words change meaning over time depending on how people use them. I don't see a need to cling to some original definition.

I don't see a need to cling to a definition either. I just recognize that it is absolutely fucking disgusting to take a word from another language that means something nice, and then start using it to not just say something benign but to pervert it to mockery.

There is a serious error in the brain of anyone who would do that.

I don't demand it be undone. I just recognize that the people doing it are acting attrociously.

 

[Bomb#20]

...whenever a subculture adopts a blatantly self-congratulatory term for its own members -- a term that implicitly accuses the subculture's non-members of some mental failing -- the non-members can generally be counted on to start using the term sarcastically. We saw this before with "politically correct";...

According to  Political_correctness, that is not the case for political correctness.

What are you seeing in that article that conflicts with what I said?

The term "politically correct" was used disparagingly, to refer to someone whose loyalty to the CP line overrode compassion, and led to bad politics. It was used by Socialists against Communists, and was meant to separate out Socialists who believed in egalitarian moral ideas from dogmatic Communists who would advocate and defend party positions regardless of their moral substance.

You aren't proposing that socialists, finding themselves in need of a term to characterize the communists' views, invented "politically correct" on their own initiative, are you? Mocking somebody tends to work better when he was doing the thing you're mocking him with. Of course this started with communists calling their own views "politically correct".

 

[laughing dog]

What are you seeing in that article that conflicts with what I said?

The part that directly precedes your quote and the part that directly succeeds your clip.

 

[Jarhyn]

What are you seeing in that article that conflicts with what I said?

The part that directly precedes your quote and the part that directly succeeds your clip.

What I find ridiculous is that in the other threads, all there are are accusations of circlejerking on the left. Not to mention accusations against everyone who wants to actually see racism cause less misery in our lives.

We have a lot of people, both white and black, who identify that racism creates problems, and created problems, and those problems endure because of apathy and ignorance.

Caring about others is not a flaw. It is not arrogant to talk about the problems, particularly the systemic ones, the ones arising from resource flows and limits on them to certain communities: when the best jobs your kids can get are stocking groceries because you can't afford college (as parents are expected to pay for college, another aspect of institutional racism, as if a child's education ought hinge on what people not-that-specific-indivudual have done.)

 

[Gospel]

I just realized that I can't recall ever hearing the term "woke" being used in a non-derogatory sense. But language is fluent. Words change meaning over time depending on how people use them. I don't see a need to cling to some original definition.

We used to use "woke" to describe someone who can't be fooled or is always a step ahead of street opposition. Since white folks got a hold of it, it died and was buried alongside the rest of the commercialized slang terms. I think "woke" was laid to rest next to "Lowkey" nearing two decades ago. "Lowkey" was thought to be buried next to "Fo shizzle" but it turns out "Fo shizzle" was always commercial so it was dug up and thrown out of the hood slang graveyard.

 

[Elixir]

I just realized that I can't recall ever hearing the term "woke" being used in a non-derogatory sense. But language is fluent. Words change meaning over time depending on how people use them. I don't see a need to cling to some original definition.

We used to use "woke" to describe someone who can't be fooled or is always a step ahead of street opposition. Since white folks got a hold of it, it died and was buried alongside the rest of the commercialized slang terms. I think "woke" was laid to rest next to "Lowkey" nearing two decades ago. "Lowkey" was thought to be buried next to "Fo shizzle" but it turns out "Fo shizzle" was always commercial so it was dug up and thrown out of the hood slang graveyard.

...along with everything else Coronadog ever said...

 

[Gospel]

BTW - The term "OPS" which on the streets meant "rivals" is the most recent death in hood slang history. So in other words, you'll see it in circulation more often starting in 2022 like it's "live" ("live" has been undead for almost a century now) but it's just a zombie.