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[TomC]

it's the WRONG eord.
It's a false narrative
Banning is something that removes material from everyone's access.
What actually happened doesn't even take these books out of schools.

Sorry for being nuanced.

If libraries, schools, parents, and bookstores all toss some books that the publisher won't reprint it's not technically banning the books.

What word would you use to describe what happened?
Tom

 

[Keith&Co.]

it's the WRONG eord.
It's a false narrative
Banning is something that removes material from everyone's access.
What actually happened doesn't even take these books out of schools.

Sorry for being nuanced.

If libraries, schools, parents, and bookstores all toss some books that the publisher won't reprint it's not technically banning the books.

What word would you use to describe what happened?
Tom

Six books are out of print.
Not tossed from all libraries.
Not banned.
Not removed from schools.
Available for sale on Amazon, used bookstores until supplies are depleted.
You don't have to go black market to smuggle them into Boston or Chinatown, or buy a bilingual edition from Nicaragua.
You can throw them out if you desire, but no one is asking you to. You could even sell your copies on eBay to some overly dramatic right winger who wants to teach his kid some Seuss (shile avoiding the Lorax, of course), and no one will stop you. Or call you names.

I suppose the word i would use is NOTHINGBURGER.

 

[TomC]

I suppose the word i would use is NOTHINGBURGER.

To me, that's the point.

It's a nothing burger. Seuss did some great children's literature, but he was a product of his times. Some of it was casually racist, and I'd prefer children weren't exposed to that at an impressionable age. At least, not without a decent parent reading along saying things like "Now, that's not a very nice thing to say now is it? We don't say things like that."
The books weren't banned, but they're going away quickly, by voluntary means, because they aren't suitable for the intended audience of impressionable children. Other Seuss books are great!


What are we arguing about? Other than the semantics of the use of the term "banned" when applied to a voluntary process keeping racist literature away from kids?
Tom

 

[Keith&Co.]

What are we arguing about? Other than the semantics of the use of the term "banned" when applied to a voluntary process keeping racist literature away from kids?
Tom

Where, exactly, are the books 'going away?'
Thrre's not a coordinated effort to get them out of kids' hands, far as i know.

One school district decided to not emphasize Seuss in their reading program, because of some stereotypes, suddenly people are shouting about banning. Kids can still read Seuss, get credit in the reading.

But on the list of actual banned books, 8 of the top 10 are challenged because of LGBTQ+ characters or themes. None are Seuss books, not in the top.
I find it quite hypocritical that a banning that never happened is such a big deal for some, but the actual effort to hide The Other slides by unremarked by these sudden champions of free speech.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

If it wasn't for the outdoor activities here I couldn't stand it. Culturally this place is garbage. The food sucks and you can't get real beer on tap. Everything is so bland.

You have a lot of not-bland nature. I just wish more of it were within day-hike range from here.

 

[Metaphor]

You could even sell your copies on eBay

Actually, you can't. eBay started de-listing copies of the six titles.