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Utah considers bill that would install anti-porn filters on new phones

Really? It was a big deal a while back. Quite a while now that i think on it. God, i am old.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

I clearly remember that happening. But I'm not sure if it was during this century or not...

Damn I'm old.
Tom
 
Really? It was a big deal a while back. Quite a while now that i think on it. God, i am old.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

I clearly remember that happening. But I'm not sure if it was during this century or not...

Damn I'm old.
Tom
I recall someone bringing a movie underway and being incensed that the nudity scene of a davored actress was a bikini scene...and i haven't been underway since 2000, so last century was the hubbub.
 
Really? It was a big deal a while back. Quite a while now that i think on it. God, i am old.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

I clearly remember that happening. But I'm not sure if it was during this century or not...

Damn I'm old.
Tom
I recall someone bringing a movie underway and being incensed that the nudity scene of a davored actress was a bikini scene...and i haven't been underway since 2000, so last century was the hubbub.

Must have put a crimp in your... alone time. :D
 
Is this any more passable than the proposal from the UK feminist proposing a 6pm curfew for males?
The Utah senate is Republican 23 to 6.
The House is Republican 59 to 16.
Supermajorities.
The only way for this not to pass a vote would be for a lot of Republicans to effectively say they'd rather have porn.
Available to kids.
And babysitters.
During church.
Because of course that's how opponents will spin it.
You mean enough Democrats or other opposition politicians support the measure as well, and would make a lot of noise? Or some other leftist groups?
Maybe there are enough of those, given that powerful variants of the left are for not allowing porn, but I'm not familiar enough with Utah's politics to tell...
 
Porn on a phone? Maybe it is just me, but if you can't leave your house without access to porn, there might be a problem. Not that Utah's proposal is anything worth considering. If right-wing porn is legal on phones, why not actual porn?

A traveler who didn't bring a laptop.
 
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/09/01/brewvies-wins-judgment-against-utah-in-deadpool-first-amendment-case/

This is the same state that revoked a movie theaters liquor license for showing Deadpool. The law here is that you can't serve booze while showing a movie with nudity and sex. Brewvies is the best theater in town and luckily is a quick bike ride from my house. I'm glad they won this bullshit case right when I moved here.

If it wasn't for the outdoor activities here I couldn't stand it. Culturally this place is garbage. The food sucks and you can't get real beer on tap. Everything is so bland.
 
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/09/01/brewvies-wins-judgment-against-utah-in-deadpool-first-amendment-case/

This is the same state that revoked a movie theaters liquor license for showing Deadpool. The law here is that you can't serve booze while showing a movie with nudity and sex. Brewvies is the best theater in town and luckily is a quick bike ride from my house. I'm glad they won this bullshit case right when I moved here.

If it wasn't for the outdoor activities here I couldn't stand it. Culturally this place is garbage. The food sucks and you can't get real beer on tap. Everything is so bland.
Most accurate description I've seen of this place yet!

My wife describes it as an entire Stepford wives metropolis.
 
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/09/01/brewvies-wins-judgment-against-utah-in-deadpool-first-amendment-case/

This is the same state that revoked a movie theaters liquor license for showing Deadpool. The law here is that you can't serve booze while showing a movie with nudity and sex. Brewvies is the best theater in town and luckily is a quick bike ride from my house. I'm glad they won this bullshit case right when I moved here.

If it wasn't for the outdoor activities here I couldn't stand it. Culturally this place is garbage. The food sucks and you can't get real beer on tap. Everything is so bland.
Most accurate description I've seen of this place yet!

My wife describes it as an entire Stepford wives metropolis.

Full of Stepford Wives selling essential oils and being their own bosses.
 
The restriction is part of a long-running campaign against pornography by Utah's conservative lawmakers.

Measure HB72 states that every tablet and smartphone sold in the state after January 1st, 2022 should come with a preinstalled content filter capable of "blocking material that is harmful to minors." Adults would be able to turn off the filter for specific content. However, the restriction can not go into effect until five other states have passed similar measures.

The bill is part of an ongoing anti-pornography campaign by Utah's conservative lawmakers. In 2016, Utah passed a resolution declaring porn a public health crisis, with 15 additional states following its lead including Florida, Idaho Arizona and Montana.

Supporters of the content filter claim that while most devices already come with parental controls, many people struggle with enabling them, reports the Associated Press. Critics say the bill is an attack on free speech and claim the broader movement against pornography ignores more pressing issues, such as the need for better sexual education. It also seems unlikely that device makers, such as Apple, who have previously clashed with law enforcement over civil liberties, will simply bow to Utah's demands.

This week in the strange death of the USA.

You got that right. Here in the US, some Dr. Suess books for children get banned because they have content that could be offensive/harmful to small children, and the left cheers. Meanwhile, there is guffawing and ridicule by the same folks that children might not be able to access, for instance, HD video simulation of a woman getting gang raped by three men. I feel like I live in the Bizarro World sometimes.
 
Here in the US, some Dr. Suess books for children get banned because they have content that could be offensive/harmful to small children, and the left cheers.
What got banned?
Where did this happen?
And....cheers? Who cheered?

I forget the details, but yeah it happened.
The story lines and illustrations were pretty racist in the casual way that used to be normal.
Tom
 
Here in the US, some Dr. Suess books for children get banned because they have content that could be offensive/harmful to small children, and the left cheers.
What got banned?
Where did this happen?
And....cheers? Who cheered?

I forget the details, but yeah it happened.
The story lines and illustrations were pretty racist in the casual way that used to be normal.
Tom

Nothing got banned. The publishing company ceased publication of those six, poorly selling BTW, books. They are still available for purchase by any used book seller that has them in stock.
 
Here in the US, some Dr. Suess books for children get banned because they have content that could be offensive/harmful to small children, and the left cheers.
What got banned?
Where did this happen?
And....cheers? Who cheered?

I forget the details, but yeah it happened.
I am willing to bet it did not happen.
The story lines and illustrations were pretty racist in the casual way that used to be normal.
Ah. THOSE books.
The ones that are still in libraries, a few stores.
They're just no longer actively being printed for sale, circulation.
Because of stereotypes.
That's not 'banned.'
Thar's a choice the publishers made, not The Left.
And far as i saw, The Left didn't really cheer. We did come to the defense of the Seuss estate when the Right made an idiot ball out of the choice.

We've covered this woth The Beav before. If he's on about banning, it must be something new, surely?
 
The restriction is part of a long-running campaign against pornography by Utah's conservative lawmakers.

Measure HB72 states that every tablet and smartphone sold in the state after January 1st, 2022 should come with a preinstalled content filter capable of "blocking material that is harmful to minors." Adults would be able to turn off the filter for specific content. However, the restriction can not go into effect until five other states have passed similar measures.

The bill is part of an ongoing anti-pornography campaign by Utah's conservative lawmakers. In 2016, Utah passed a resolution declaring porn a public health crisis, with 15 additional states following its lead including Florida, Idaho Arizona and Montana.

Supporters of the content filter claim that while most devices already come with parental controls, many people struggle with enabling them, reports the Associated Press. Critics say the bill is an attack on free speech and claim the broader movement against pornography ignores more pressing issues, such as the need for better sexual education. It also seems unlikely that device makers, such as Apple, who have previously clashed with law enforcement over civil liberties, will simply bow to Utah's demands.

This week in the strange death of the USA.

You got that right. Here in the US, some Dr. Suess books for children get banned because they have content that could be offensive/harmful to small children, and the left cheers. Meanwhile, there is guffawing and ridicule by the same folks that children might not be able to access, for instance, HD video simulation of a woman getting gang raped by three men. I feel like I live in the Bizarro World sometimes.

the debate here in utah isn't over whether children get to see porn or not. it's a debate over who is responsible for installed the content restrictions on the devices. the state says it should be the device manufacturer and the device companies say it should be the parents. the content restriction are already on all devices but the parents have to set the controls. the utah law basically says parents are too stupid to figure out how to do that.
 
The ones that are still in libraries,

I'm sure that they aren't in my county library.

They're dumping the dead tree versions of literature by the truck load. Just keeping up with the times.

What with the Trump Virus issue, I doubt that they loan out any such books at all.

Tom
 
The ones that are still in libraries,
I'm sure that they aren't in my county library.

They're dumping the dead tree versions of literature by the truck load. Just keeping up with the times.
Okay, so not in YOUR library.
For reasons completely apart from the 'banning' that never happened.
What with the Trump Virus issue, I doubt that they loan out any such books at all.
...and again, the assumed inavailability of those books reflects realities unconnected to a liberal ban on the titles.

I just searched our library. Open three days a week for browsing and computer use. Curbside pick-up avasilable. 143 titles under 'Seuss.' Found four of the six 'out of print' books before i stopped scrolling.
 
For reasons completely apart from the 'banning' that never happened.

"Banning" was a strong word.

But, honestly, the books really did have the kind of casual racism that used to be normal. Keeping that away from impressionable children is fine with me.

Don't get me wrong. This is about kids. Not absolutely banning anything.

Similarly,
I'm a huge fan of Tolkien and "Lord of the Rings". But I do recognize the classism, racism, gender bigotry, and such Tolkien wove into the story. It just wasn't noticed at the time, and in the setting(a fictionalized medieval England) such attitudes were the norm. Frodo was deemed "the best hobbit in the Shire", but it took the sturdiness of Sam, the potato farmers son, to save everything.

What's appropriate for adults isn't necessarily appropriate for children.
Tom
 
For reasons completely apart from the 'banning' that never happened.

"Banning" was a strong word.
it's the WRONG eord.
It's a false narrative
Banning is something that removes material from everyone's access.
What actually happened doesn't even take these books out of schools.
But, honestly, the books really did have the kind of casual racism that used to be normal.
i know.
I do notice that Fox and others do not show the stereotypes in their reporting. They show The Cat In A Hat.
Lawmakers read Sneetches or Cat in protest, because the real problematic material would give the game away.
Keeping that away from impressionable children is fine with me.
Where is that happening?
Don't get me wrong. This is about kids. Not absolutely banning anything.
This is about sales and stereotypes. A choice freely made by the people with the rights to the books. Not imposed by Biden's posse. And actually, the decision was made last year. Well before the libs took over.
But some people keep saying 'banned.'
What's appropriate for adults isn't necessarily appropriate for children.
Tom
i let my 1st grader son watch Blazing Saddles, noting that some words we were going yo hear were off limits for short people. He understood fully.
Then went to day care and taught the preschoolers to run to the fence when anyone drove up, and shout 'Where da white women at?'

Wunderful....
 
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