V.A. - actually,we're not going to pay the soldiers what we owe them.

[Worldtraveller]

FFvC put his friends in charge. This is what we get:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...congressional-staffers-it-won-t-repay-n941491

But remember, the GOP loves them some troops.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Jesus H. Goddamned motherfucking tap dancing Christ on a pogo stick in a minefield with Army boots!

Veterans are being kicked out of their homes because they can't make payments due to the God DAMNED computers fucking this shit up. And now there's 'legal justification' not to pay them what they're owed?

UNSTATED legal justification. From the admin of Trump, who says that if sources aren't named, they don't really exist. Or at least, he's heart that. From someone. People are saying that.

 

[ZiprHead]

Would have been better without the typo.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Looks like what happens when an organization is dreadfully understaffed... and the person running it doesn't care.

 

[untermensche]

It really is amazing.

All these veterans that support the Republicans based on words not actions.

GW screwed veterans over massively.

Despite sending them to an unneeded war he also sent them over and over rather than have a draft.

The list is long of how the Republicans have screwed over veterans.

Yet still they get the support from many veterans.

Veterans who put party loyalty over country.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Looks like what happens when an organization is dreadfully understaffed... and the person running it doesn't care.

I don't think this is staffing. Auditing 2 million cases would be a royal headache for any organization.

Rather, we are seeing typical government procedures at work. There's no need to audit 2 million cases. Fix the fucking software then re-run the calculations for what people should have received. Send out checks based on that. You only need to audit the cases where people feel it's still wrong.

Lets look at another example--people who work while drawing Social Security. The government's IT processes crawl, every October my wife gets a letter from them saying that they are correcting her social security payment based on what she earned in the previous year. Her payment is adjusted and she gets an extra payment for the difference between what she should have gotten and what she did get. All automatic, no audits involved. That's how to handle something like this.

 

[untermensche]

Jesus fucking christ!

How about you actually care when you underpay somebody and keep a record of it?

The military in the US is just something for rich elites to use to fight their insane wars of choice then throw into the garbage like trash.

 

[Elixir]

Looks like what happens when an organization is dreadfully understaffed... and the person running it doesn't care.

I don't think this is staffing.

I think he was talking about this:

View attachment 19102

Would have been better without the typo.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Looks like what happens when an organization is dreadfully understaffed... and the person running it doesn't care.

I don't think this is staffing. Auditing 2 million cases would be a royal headache for any organization.

Rather, we are seeing typical government procedures at work. There's no need to audit 2 million cases. Fix the fucking software then re-run the calculations for what people should have received. Send out checks based on that. You only need to audit the cases where people feel it's still wrong.

Lets look at another example--people who work while drawing Social Security. The government's IT processes crawl, every October my wife gets a letter from them saying that they are correcting her social security payment based on what she earned in the previous year. Her payment is adjusted and she gets an extra payment for the difference between what she should have gotten and what she did get. All automatic, no audits involved. That's how to handle something like this.

You know, the world doesn’t start and end at your (edit) wife.

 

[James Brown]

Lets look at another example--people who work while drawing Social Security. The government's IT processes crawl, every October my wife gets a letter from them saying that they are correcting her social security payment based on what she earned in the previous year. Her payment is adjusted and she gets an extra payment for the difference between what she should have gotten and what she did get. All automatic, no audits involved. That's how to handle something like this.

So government can do something right.

 

[fast]

It really is amazing.

All these veterans that support the Republicans based on words not actions.

GW screwed veterans over massively.

Despite sending them to an unneeded war he also sent them over and over rather than have a draft.

The list is long of how the Republicans have screwed over veterans.

Yet still they get the support from many veterans.

Veterans who put party loyalty over country.

Please explain yourself

 

[untermensche]

It really is amazing.

All these veterans that support the Republicans based on words not actions.

GW screwed veterans over massively.

Despite sending them to an unneeded war he also sent them over and over rather than have a draft.

The list is long of how the Republicans have screwed over veterans.

Yet still they get the support from many veterans.

Veterans who put party loyalty over country.

Please explain yourself

Instead of a draft the scum running the war abused veterans and forced them to to go on more than one tour.

Many veterans were if course killed or injured and many have killed themselves.

Explain yourself for not knowing this.

 

[fast]

It really is amazing.

All these veterans that support the Republicans based on words not actions.

GW screwed veterans over massively.

Despite sending them to an unneeded war he also sent them over and over rather than have a draft.

The list is long of how the Republicans have screwed over veterans.

Yet still they get the support from many veterans.

Veterans who put party loyalty over country.

Please explain yourself

Instead of a draft the scum running the war abused veterans and forced them to to go on more than one tour.

Many veterans were if course killed or injured and many have killed themselves.

Explain yourself for not knowing this.

Instituting a draft would be highly immoral.

Instituting a draft would be highly immoral even given our current circumstances.

Instituting a draft would be highly immoral and far worst than honoring our commitment to compensate our brave soldiers that voluntarily enlist. When you sign up for it, you’re taking on a duty that doesn’t exclude the possibility of multiple tours.

The surfacing anger that a perceived unjust war brings (accurately perceived or not) should not serve as justification for a draft. You appear to think it does, but maybe I’m mistaken on what you appear to be saying, and that’s what I’m asking you to expound upon.

 

[untermensche]

Instead of a draft the scum running the war abused veterans and forced them to to go on more than one tour.

Many veterans were if course killed or injured and many have killed themselves.

Explain yourself for not knowing this.

Instituting a draft would be highly immoral.

Sure.

But less immoral that abusing the people who did their duty already.

If a nation is at war it is the duty of all citizens of draft age to equally risk their lives. The volunteers already in the military first, then others.

If people won't enlist for your effort that is evidence it is not important.

The attack was immoral so any way it was conducted was immoral.

Saying a draft would be immoral is meaningless.

 

[ZiprHead]

VA reverses course on GI Bill payments, will repay possibly short-changed veterans

 

[Harry Bosch]

Instead of a draft the scum running the war abused veterans and forced them to to go on more than one tour.

Many veterans were if course killed or injured and many have killed themselves.

Explain yourself for not knowing this.

Instituting a draft would be highly immoral.

Sure.

But less immoral that abusing the people who did their duty already.

If a nation is at war it is the duty of all citizens of draft age to equally risk their lives. The volunteers already in the military first, then others.

If people won't enlist for your effort that is evidence it is not important.

The attack was immoral so any way it was conducted was immoral.

Saying a draft would be immoral is meaningless.

I have to agree with Fast. A volunteer army is more motivated. It's against the values of a democracy to force younger people into military service unless a country is in dire and constant threat.

 

[untermensche]

Sure.

But less immoral that abusing the people who did their duty already.

If a nation is at war it is the duty of all citizens of draft age to equally risk their lives. The volunteers already in the military first, then others.

If people won't enlist for your effort that is evidence it is not important.

The attack was immoral so any way it was conducted was immoral.

Saying a draft would be immoral is meaningless.

I have to agree with Fast. A volunteer army is more motivated. It's against the values of a democracy to force younger people into military service unless a country is in dire and constant threat.

A volunteer army is a way to shield the well to do from having to serve.

It is an injustice.

And it makes war more likely since the rich members of Congress will not be risking their children.