Venezuela just went full dictatorship

[Derec]

Venezuela top court grants Maduro economic emergency powers, opposition cries foul

Despite opposition winning decisively in last year's parliamentary elections Maduro will be able to do pretty much what he wants to dig Venezuela even deeper into the economic shit they are in.
Prepare for the worst: Venezuela is heading toward complete disaster
720% inflation? Whoa! On the plus side, that might alleviate the shortage of toilet paper. Venezuelans can just wipe their butts with Bolivar notes!
Venezuela asks more than 100 malls to close to save electricity

 

[Loren Pechtel]

http://247wallst.com/energy-economy...urce=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link

Yeah, they're really fucking things up down there.

 

[fromderinside]

Venezuela top court grants Maduro economic emergency powers, opposition cries foul

Despite opposition winning decisively in last year's parliamentary elections Maduro will be able to do pretty much what he wants to dig Venezuela even deeper into the economic shit they are in.
Prepare for the worst: Venezuela is heading toward complete disaster
720% inflation? Whoa! On the plus side, that might alleviate the shortage of toilet paper. Venezuelans can just wipe their butts with Bolivar notes!
Venezuela asks more than 100 malls to close to save electricity

Wha? They just imported kangaroos in their courts. That's just Ausful.

 

[Colonel Sanders]

Just shows what horrible management can do. The country is so rich in natural resources, but so grossly mismanaged. And it's worth saying that a fully socialist nation could have managed Venezuela into an economic powerhouse decades ago. Also, a free market economy could just as easily have raped the country into ruin.

Anyway, when I was in 5th grade I had to do a report on the country. Here's what I remember, in order:

Oil
Gold
Angel Falls

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I'd just like to be the first to point out that this is all the fault of white people from America.

 

[dismal]

I'd just like to be the first to point out that this is all the fault of white people from America.

Actually I and my greedy American capitalist buddies would be happy to sell them all the toilet paper they need.

It's just going to have to be cash upfront.

 

[untermensche]

So the Supreme Court in Venezuela made a ruling.

And somehow, to some, this is the same thing as "full dictatorship".

What is it when the Supreme Court in Venezuela takes a shit?

Armageddon?

 

[Jayjay]

So the Supreme Court in Venezuela made a ruling.

And somehow, to some, this is the same thing as "full dictatorship".

What is it when the Supreme Court in Venezuela takes a shit?

Armageddon?

That's right, why bother with elections and democratic institutions when you can just fill a court with your henchmen and do whatever you like anyway?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

So the Supreme Court in Venezuela made a ruling.

And somehow, to some, this is the same thing as "full dictatorship".

What is it when the Supreme Court in Venezuela takes a shit?

Armageddon?

Well, yes. When you appoint people to the court and then those people override the results of an election to grant you additional power, you are now running a dictatorship.

What do you think a dictatorship looks like?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

So the Supreme Court in Venezuela made a ruling.

And somehow, to some, this is the same thing as "full dictatorship".

What is it when the Supreme Court in Venezuela takes a shit?

Armageddon?

The Supreme Court basically ruled that he can do whatever he wants. A leader that can do whatever he wants is a dictator. Therefore it just became a dictatorship.

 

[fast]

Dictator--an admiral position, much more prestigious and worthy of respect than (oh say) that thing called presidency. Am I right?

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

http://247wallst.com/energy-economy...urce=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link

Yeah, they're really fucking things up down there.

You have a gift for understatement.

 

[Bomb#20]

Dictator--an admiral position, much more prestigious and worthy of respect than (oh say) that thing called presidency. Am I right?

Technically, an Admiral General position.

 

[untermensche]

So the Supreme Court in Venezuela made a ruling.

And somehow, to some, this is the same thing as "full dictatorship".

What is it when the Supreme Court in Venezuela takes a shit?

Armageddon?

That's right, why bother with elections and democratic institutions when you can just fill a court with your henchmen and do whatever you like anyway?

Do you have anything, like evidence, to support this claim?

 

[Axulus]

That's right, why bother with elections and democratic institutions when you can just fill a court with your henchmen and do whatever you like anyway?

Do you have anything, like evidence, to support this claim?

You mean other than the proof that Chavez and Maduro stacked the court with their cronies? Do you deny that is what they did?

 

[untermensche]

Do you have anything, like evidence, to support this claim?

You mean other than the proof that Chavez and Maduro stacked the court with their cronies? Do you deny that is what they did?

Yes, evidence of wild claims like that.

Where is it?

Of course they put people on the Court that supported their views, as everybody does.

But where is the evidence that any of these members of the Court are more corrupt and "bought" than say somebody like Scalia?

 

[Axulus]

You mean other than the proof that Chavez and Maduro stacked the court with their cronies? Do you deny that is what they did?

Yes, evidence of wild claims like that.

Where is it?

Of course they put people on the Court that supported their views, as everybody does.

But where is the evidence that any of these members of the Court are more corrupt and "bought" than say somebody like Scalia?

You mean like here?

Venezuela's judicial system has been deemed the most corrupt in the world by Transparency International in 2014.[2] Human Rights Watch claimed that in 2004, Hugo Chávez and his allies took over of the Supreme Tribunal of Justice, filling it with supporters of Chávez and made new measures so the government could dismiss justices from the court. In 2010, legislators from Chávez’s political party appointed 9 permanent judges and 32 stand-ins, which included several allies. They claim that some judges may face reprisals if they rule against government interests.[3]

It has also been alleged that the Supreme Tribunal of Justice with the majority supporting Chávez elected officials to the supposedly non-partisan National Electoral Council of Venezuela (CNE) despite the 1999 Constitution stating that the National Assembly of Venezuela were to perform the action.[4] This resulted with the CNE board having a majority consisting of Chavistas.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Tribunal_of_Justice_(Venezuela)

 

[maxparrish]

Chronicles in Socialism - Latin American Democracy, Venezuela Style

So the Supreme Court in Venezuela made a ruling.

And somehow, to some, this is the same thing as "full dictatorship".

What is it when the Supreme Court in Venezuela takes a shit?

Armageddon?

I know just what you mean unter, all this kerfuffle over a ruling. The TSJ makes lots of rulings, a whole lot more than our lazy US Supreme Court. The TSJ is much like a branch of Maduro's bureaucracy, with those 32 justices being subdivided into panels so they can write and rubber stamp the thousands of opinions sought by wise and beneficent absolute decree maker "El Presidente" Maduro.

And hey, its not an easy job. Of the 45,000 or so judgement and opinions it has issued in the last 10 years, the Chavezistas have won 100 percent of them - not a single loss. Amazing. So naturally the Chavezista jurists are have to be objective, meticulous, and utterly correct in their rulings. Is it their fault that Chavezistas are far sharper legal eagles than the all the American ACLU and Harvard lawyers and judges, born and unborn?

And so what if they discovered that Maduro's expired rule by decree power is reinstated, even though AN approval of the this power is required in their constitution?

This is Venezuela.

 

[untermensche]

Yes, evidence of wild claims like that.

Where is it?

Of course they put people on the Court that supported their views, as everybody does.

But where is the evidence that any of these members of the Court are more corrupt and "bought" than say somebody like Scalia?

You mean like here?

Venezuela's judicial system has been deemed the most corrupt in the world by Transparency International in 2014.[2] Human Rights Watch claimed that in 2004, Hugo Chávez and his allies took over of the Supreme Tribunal of Justice, filling it with supporters of Chávez and made new measures so the government could dismiss justices from the court. In 2010, legislators from Chávez’s political party appointed 9 permanent judges and 32 stand-ins, which included several allies. They claim that some judges may face reprisals if they rule against government interests.[3]

It has also been alleged that the Supreme Tribunal of Justice with the majority supporting Chávez elected officials to the supposedly non-partisan National Electoral Council of Venezuela (CNE) despite the 1999 Constitution stating that the National Assembly of Venezuela were to perform the action.[4] This resulted with the CNE board having a majority consisting of Chavistas.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Tribunal_of_Justice_(Venezuela)

Transparency International has it's own problems. I don't take their word on anything.

Chavez won the presidency over and over.

Of course the Court had people that supported him.

And of course it is only in Venezuela where corrupt Justices beholden to Parties exist.

 

[untermensche]

So the Supreme Court in Venezuela made a ruling.

And somehow, to some, this is the same thing as "full dictatorship".

What is it when the Supreme Court in Venezuela takes a shit?

Armageddon?

I know just what you mean unter, all this kerfuffle over a ruling. The TSJ makes lots of rulings, a whole lot more than our lazy US Supreme Court. The TSJ is much like a branch of Maduro's bureaucracy, with those 32 justices being subdivided into panels so they can write and rubber stamp the thousands of opinions sought by wise and beneficent absolute decree maker "El Presidente" Maduro.

And hey, its not an easy job. Of the 45,000 or so judgement and opinions it has issued in the last 10 years, the Chavezistas have won 100 percent of them - not a single loss. Amazing. So naturally the Chavezista jurists are have to be objective, meticulous, and utterly correct in their rulings. Is it their fault that Chavezistas are far sharper legal eagles than the all the American ACLU and Harvard lawyers and judges, born and unborn?

And so what if they discovered that Maduro's expired rule by decree power is reinstated, even though AN approval of the this power is required in their constitution?

This is Venezuela.

The US Supreme Court is polluted and corrupted by corporate influences and by money and by politics.

In Venezuela the Court is corrupted in service to the people.

Sure, corruption is corruption.

But the world has been so corrupted for so long by wealth a little corruption for the people, to me, is not the end of the world. It should be ended, but the sky is not falling down.

There are much more serious matters. Like all the corruption from wealth destroying the planet.