Video: trans woman beaten, executed by cheering, laughing crowd

[laughing dog]

It is hypocritical of any poster who routinely accuses posters who do not explicitly reject disgusting acts or views to accuse those posters of condoning those acts or accepting those views.

Hypocritical it may be, but that doesn't make it wrong.

Most people do think hypocrisy is wrong.

And it certainly doesn't make the insinuations any less bullshit.

Without an explicit response from Derec, your claim does not have much empirical merit.

 

[J842P]

Hypocritical it may be, but that doesn't make it wrong.

Most people do think hypocrisy is wrong.

Hypocrisy doesn't make a *claim* wrong. If I were a smoker, let's say, and I told my nephew "You shouldn't smoke, it is bad for you." And then, he says "But you smoke, you hypocite!"

Well, I may be a hypocrite, but that wouldn't make me wrong about smoking.

And it certainly doesn't make the insinuations any less bullshit.

Without an explicit response from Derec, your claim does not have much empirical merit.

Nonsense. When did you stop beating your wife? Oh, without your explicit response, we cannot know if that claim is bullshit.

 

[laughing dog]

Most people do think hypocrisy is wrong.

And it certainly doesn't make the insinuations any less bullshit.

Without an explicit response from Derec, your claim does not have much empirical merit.

Hypocrisy doesn't make a *claim* wrong. If I were a smoker, let's say, and I told my nephew "You shouldn't smoke, it is bad for you." And then, he says "But you smoke, you hypocite!"

Well, I may be a hypocrite, but that wouldn't make me wrong about smoking.

Derec made no clam - he sidestepped making a claim.

 

[J842P]

Most people do think hypocrisy is wrong.

And it certainly doesn't make the insinuations any less bullshit.

Without an explicit response from Derec, your claim does not have much empirical merit.

Hypocrisy doesn't make a *claim* wrong. If I were a smoker, let's say, and I told my nephew "You shouldn't smoke, it is bad for you." And then, he says "But you smoke, you hypocite!"

Well, I may be a hypocrite, but that wouldn't make me wrong about smoking.

Derec made no clam - he sidestepped making a claim.

What? You were the one who said this:

It is hypocritical of any poster who routinely accuses posters who do not explicitly reject disgusting acts or views to accuse those posters of condoning those acts or accepting those views.

. So, I don't even know what claim you were talking about. My point is that hypocrisy is irrelevant, since I was talking about Underseer and Elixir's claims.

 

[laughing dog]

Nonsense. When did you stop beating your wife? Oh, without your explicit response, we cannot know if that claim is bullshit.

Logically, that is true - one cannot know unless one knows the wife and allegedly wife beater very well.

 

[J842P]

Nonsense. When did you stop beating your wife? Oh, without your explicit response, we cannot know if that claim is bullshit.

Logically, that is true - one cannot know unless one knows the wife and allegedly wife beater very well.

Right, be we aren't computers speaking in machine code - we are humans speaking in natural language, where we can communicate effectively without resorting to strict logical implication.

 

[whichphilosophy]

This video is just another illustration that despite imperfections in the USA Transgenders, gays, Women, racial minorities, Muslims and other minorities are considerably much better off than in other countries. That's why so many people want to reach America.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I am confused. Brazil is the Trans capital of the world. It's like all they got.

I mean... the act of removing hair from your asshole is called a BRAZILIAN for fucks sake.

And what is the connection supposed to be??

 

[laughing dog]

Logically, that is true - one cannot know unless one knows the wife and allegedly wife beater very well.

Right, be we aren't computers speaking in machine code - we are humans speaking in natural language, where we can communicate effectively without resorting to strict logical implication.

But the underlying ideas are still there. Which means your claim about Underseer is, to use your own term, bullshit as well.

 

[braces_for_impact]

Ya know, I've been known to have a temper. Its something that I've worked on over the years, and I still have a way to go. Nevertheless, I cannot imagine tearing someone this way when not in self defense. It broke my heart.

 

[Underseer]

https://talkfreethought.org/showthread.php?10693-Düsseldorf-axe-attack

So above is Derec making exactly the argument he claims that no conservative ever makes.

In that other thread, Derec himself asks us to condemn Muslims in general because of that axe attack. Therefore, following the logic of his own argument, we should condemn Christians in general for the brutal murder of this transexual person.

So now that Derec finally admits that this is indeed a valid conservative argument, what collective punishment should we apply to Christians for the murder of this woman? Should we ban Christians from immigrating to America? I think this murder proves that Christians are too dangerous to allow any more to enter the country... provided one accepts the logic of conservative arguments, of course, which I don't.