Vigilante Gun Owner Opens Fire On Shoplifter In Home Depot Parking Lot

[AthenaAwakened]

The incident occurred Tuesday afternoon at a Home Depot parking lot in Auburn Hills, Michigan. Store security chased the alleged shoplifter as he jumped into an SUV that was waiting to help him flee. According to the Detroit Free Press, that’s when a 48 year-old woman drew a gun and began firing shots at the vehicle.

The woman, who has a license to carry a concealed firearm, is reportedly “cooperating with police.”

If this wannabe Dirty Harry were an actual cop, she almost certainly would have violated the Constitution. Under the Supreme Court’s decision in Tennessee v. Garner, law enforcement may not use deadly force “unless it is necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.”
Based on publicly available information, there’s no indication that the fleeing man, who allegedly stole power tools and welding equipment, presented a sufficient threat to the public to justify the use of deadly force.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...fire-on-shoplifter-in-home-depot-parking-lot/

 

[Nice Squirrel]

We need more people to gun down people they suspect of petty crimes. Only then will we be safe from gun violence.

 

[fast]

We need more people to gun down people they suspect of petty crimes. Only then will we be safe from gun violence.

Are you suggesting it would be okay if she knew for a fact the thief actually committed the petty crime? No, I didn't think so. Kinda makes me wonder why you said, "suspect." But hey, no worries, you're probably right anyway, because if the tools were stolen so they could be pawned for money to buy drugs and everybody shot these drug addicts, there would likely be a spike in gun violence before it eventually tapered off, finally showing that it's not the guns but the drugs behind the problem.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

We need more people to gun down people they suspect of petty crimes. Only then will we be safe from gun violence.

Are you suggesting it would be okay if she knew for a fact the thief actually committed the petty crime? No, I didn't think so. Kinda makes me wonder why you said, "suspect." But hey, no worries, you're probably right anyway, because if the tools were stolen so they could be pawned for money to buy drugs and everybody shot these drug addicts, there would likely be a spike in gun violence before it eventually tapered off, finally showing that it's not the guns but the drugs behind the problem.

Doesn't matter if they are a suspect or a hardened petty criminal or if they just suffered a case of mistaken idintity. We need more people to gun down people they suspect of petty crimes. Only then will we be safe from gun violence.

And we also need people to shoot those suspected drug users because they might shoot someone else.

 

[RavenSky]

We need more people to gun down people they suspect of petty crimes. Only then will we be safe from gun violence.

Are you suggesting it would be okay if she knew for a fact the thief actually committed the petty crime? No, I didn't think so. Kinda makes me wonder why you said, "suspect." But hey, no worries, you're probably right anyway, because if the tools were stolen so they could be pawned for money to buy drugs and everybody shot these drug addicts, there would likely be a spike in gun violence before it eventually tapered off, finally showing that it's not the guns but the drugs behind the problem.

I think Nice Squirrel poe'd you

No worries, though. Someone will be along shortly to post something similar for real. I'm anticipating all sorts of justifications for this woman shooting at the suspected shoplifter, especially if said suspected shoplifter is not lily white. Then again, the shooter is a woman which makes her automatically wrong, so we may see some smoking brains as they sort out who they should blame.

 

[fast]

Are you suggesting it would be okay if she knew for a fact the thief actually committed the petty crime? No, I didn't think so. Kinda makes me wonder why you said, "suspect." But hey, no worries, you're probably right anyway, because if the tools were stolen so they could be pawned for money to buy drugs and everybody shot these drug addicts, there would likely be a spike in gun violence before it eventually tapered off, finally showing that it's not the guns but the drugs behind the problem.

I think Nice Squirrel poe'd you

No worries, though. Someone will be along shortly to post something similar for real. I'm anticipating all sorts of justifications for this woman shooting at the suspected shoplifter, especially if said suspected shoplifter is not lily white. Then again, the shooter is a woman which makes her automatically wrong, so we may see some smoking brains as they sort out who they should blame.

I knew he was just-a-talkin'. Me too. Pretty damn stupid for her to shoot. Caught up in the excitement of the moment? Can't imagine what was going through her head. Still, take her guns, not mine. I have snakes that deserve more than a shovel to the head, plus, I like to shoot the pool when it's time to empty the water. More guns! More guns! You anti-gun people!

 

[barbos]

That's crazy, she could have hit some bystanders too.

 

[PyramidHead]

Reality check: the gangbangers want you to believe they are using power tools for home improvement. "Welding equipment" could be a flamethrower. And thinkprogress.org is unreliable because they once implied Palestinians are human beings.

[/moderatelibertarian]

 

[GenesisNemesis]

This story is disgusting as well.

HOUSTON -- One man is injured after a carjacking and shooting at a gas station in north Houston Saturday night.

Houston police responded to a shooting call around 11:15 p.m. Saturday at a Valero gas station on Jensen Drive at Reid Street in north Houston. Officials say two men jumped another man in the gas station parking lot and took the victim's Chevrolet pickup truck. Police say a witness then pulled out a gun and began shooting at the suspects, accidentally hitting the carjacking victim in the head.

Can we have a thread about stupid people with guns?

 

[Derec]

We need more people to gun down people they suspect of petty crimes. Only then will we be safe from gun violence.

It was certainly not "petty". In fact, it was felony theft under Michigan law given that they stole more than $1,000 worth of tools and equipment.

On Tuesday, customers were coming and going in the parking lot of a Home Depot near Detroit when a shoplifter suddenly came tearing across the blacktop. The shoplifter, who appeared to be in his 40s and wore a black shirt and hat, was pushing a cart full of stolen power tools and welding equipment worth more than $1,000.

‘Worst nightmare': Woman with concealed gun permit shoots at fleeing shoplifter outside Home Depot
Unfortunately the perps still got away.

 

[ksen]

It was certainly not "petty". In fact, it was felony theft under Michigan law given that they stole more than $1,000 worth of tools and equipment.

On Tuesday, customers were coming and going in the parking lot of a Home Depot near Detroit when a shoplifter suddenly came tearing across the blacktop. The shoplifter, who appeared to be in his 40s and wore a black shirt and hat, was pushing a cart full of stolen power tools and welding equipment worth more than $1,000.

‘Worst nightmare': Woman with concealed gun permit shoots at fleeing shoplifter outside Home Depot

No worries, though. Someone will be along shortly to post something similar for real.

nailed it

 

[repoman]

Maybe she likes watching liveleak.com and all the videos of off-duty cops in Brazil shooter robbers.

Seriously, what happens in many of these videos is that a robber pulls a gun on the clerk and the off-duty cop pulls his out and shoots him in the head.

 

[Derec]

nailed it

Correcting Squirrel's mistaken characterization of the crime is certainly not "something similar".

 

[RavenSky]

This story is disgusting as well.

HOUSTON -- One man is injured after a carjacking and shooting at a gas station in north Houston Saturday night.

Houston police responded to a shooting call around 11:15 p.m. Saturday at a Valero gas station on Jensen Drive at Reid Street in north Houston. Officials say two men jumped another man in the gas station parking lot and took the victim's Chevrolet pickup truck. Police say a witness then pulled out a gun and began shooting at the suspects, accidentally hitting the carjacking victim in the head.

Can we have a thread about stupid people with guns?

The first though I had while reading the OP was that it was pure luck that the dingbat didn't shoot one of the store security guards by accident.

I am afreaid we are going to see more and more of this as the gun-crazy's insist on "exercising their rights" before Obama takes away all their guns Every time there is another school shooting, there are too many people popping up to insist that if only the by-standers had guns these do-gooders would save the day.

In reality, we have a stupid woman shooting up a Home Depot parking lot and NOT preventing a theft, and another jackass shooting the VICTIM in the head.

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It was certainly not "petty". In fact, it was felony theft under Michigan law given that they stole more than $1,000 worth of tools and equipment.

On Tuesday, customers were coming and going in the parking lot of a Home Depot near Detroit when a shoplifter suddenly came tearing across the blacktop. The shoplifter, who appeared to be in his 40s and wore a black shirt and hat, was pushing a cart full of stolen power tools and welding equipment worth more than $1,000.

‘Worst nightmare': Woman with concealed gun permit shoots at fleeing shoplifter outside Home Depot
Unfortunately the perps still got away.

So, according to the quote you provided, the parking lot was filled with customers coming and going which means this idiot with a gun put all of them in danger... over power tools.

 

[Derec]

So, according to the quote you provided, the parking lot was filled with customers coming and going which means this idiot with a gun put all of them in danger... over power tools.

I am not saying what she did was right, I was just correcting Squirrel's mistaken assumption that it was a petty theft (<$200) when in fact it was felony theft (>$1,000).

 

[GenesisNemesis]

edit

 

[RavenSky]

So, according to the quote you provided, the parking lot was filled with customers coming and going which means this idiot with a gun put all of them in danger... over power tools.

I am not saying what she did was right, I was just correcting Squirrel's mistaken assumption that it was a petty theft (<$200) when in fact it was felony theft (>$1,000).

And this matters to the conversation why?

 

[Derec]

Somehow, that means you get to shoot someone and endanger other people's lives.

No, it means it wasn't petty theft. Please try to pay attention to the claims I was debunking.

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And this matters to the conversation why?

It was important enough to Nice Squirrel to claim that the theft was "petty". Yet I am a bad guy for correcting his mistake?

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

People imagine all kinds of stupid shit that isn't there. This dingbat bitch thought she was Elliot fucking Ness or Batman and was gonna save Metropolis from crime to the accolades of her fellow citizens. Stupid moron.

 

[Derec]

People imagine all kinds of stupid shit that isn't there. This dingbat bitch thought she was Elliot fucking Ness or Batman and was gonna save Metropolis from crime to the accolades of her fellow citizens. Stupid moron.

If she was Batman, she'd have a cool car to chase them down.
Also, doesn't Batman not use guns?