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What's one vote, a personal testimony.

Bronzeage

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What's one vote?
A long time ago, in a place not very far away, I was student at the great Louisiana State University. The last thing which held any
interest for me was the Student Government Association. I grew up on campus, so I had observed the SGA from about age 12, on. It was basically a social event for the fraternities and sororities. The student body was very fragmented and fairly apathetic, so it didn't take a very large voter bloc to swing an election. One year, a guy named Ted Schirmer managed to put together a bloc of anybody who was not in a fraternity. It worked and he was elected. Needless to say, Ted did not get invited to any Frathouse parties.


He did get recalled. The Greeks weren't happy with him, so they started a recall drive and were able to force a recall election. SGA elections were clumsy affairs. There was only one polling place, because there was no other way to prevent people from voting twice. If your daily business did not take you past the front of the Student Union, you weren't likely to vote.


On the day of the recall, I made it a point to vote to keep Ted. I had no particular reason, but it felt right. I had a half hour before my next class and was standing around talking to a few people when the recall was brought up. Most of them had heard nothing about it. I told one guy, "If you want to vote, I'll walk over there with you." That was a fair offer and he accepted. It only took a few minutes, and when we got back, I repeated to someone else. He also voted to keep Ted.
When it was all said and done and counted, Ted survived the recall by two votes.
 
It's anarchy, I tell you. Anarchy!!!

Seriously though. Is that true?
 
It's anarchy, I tell you. Anarchy!!!

Seriously though. Is that true?

Having been involved in union elections that have been won and lost by a few votes, I am sure it happened (or could have happened). However State and National elections aren't decided by one or two votes, or by any voluntary work I might provide.

The right to vote is an illusion of power; it so diluted as to be meaningless. When I make a choice wherein I have a 100 percent power (e.g. to go to a cigar smoking bar) my choice is real and substantive.

When I wish to protect that bar from being banned by those who hate smoking - I have no power. My vote means nothing. The bar is no longer a choice between owner and patron, it is a "collectivized" entity and my use is decided by 100,000s of thousands (or millions) on an up or down basis.

They give you a vote and take your bar - and they call it freedom and democracy.

That to is based on a true story.
 
It's anarchy, I tell you. Anarchy!!!

Seriously though. Is that true?

Yes, it's true. I don't know what happened to Ted. When I googled his name, I found only one reference to him, and that was for being the president of the student alliance he formed for his SGA election.
 
The election of Dubbya should be enough to convince anyone that their vote matters.

It's just the opposite. Even if you lived in Florida in one of the rare elections that came down to one close state it wouldn't have made a difference whether you voted or not.
 
The election of Dubbya should be enough to convince anyone that their vote matters.
Sure, if you're one of the nine people whose votes the government didn't decide not to count.

The crucial point of that election is that the Supreme Court stopped the count.

It doesn't matter who won. Democracy lost either way.
 
It doesn't matter who won. Democracy lost either way.

democracy is a messy thing. It includes protections like distributed counterbalancing authority. Democracy didn't lose, it just got a political wake up call. For democracy to work here technology has to be more reliable. No more chads. Now we worry about bribery to impact programming and transmission of electronic voting.

Erie Bronzeage. Back in the day I was called traitor by my best friend who was upset I didn't run his campaign. Instead I ran my brother's campaign. No frats. Just Technology, Sports, Academics with candidates from each. Art, my brothers thing, was considered technology. A girls poll considered all the candidates cute so that minority was gonna split. My friend was academic and the football captain was sports.

All were thought to follow 'party' lines, except we, my brother and I, were also members of Academics and Athletics respectively. I suggested we take advantage and find supporters in each of the other areas while the Jocks and Academics concentrated on their own kind.

Predictable win for the weaker technology.

Yea activism and grunt work.
 
Yeah!! let's make america great again. Except don't worry about voting, though. That's irrelevant.

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