Who Agrees Fourth Wave Feminism is Toxic Femininity And Should Be Abolished?

[Patooka]

It's getting so bad that we now have this commercial shaming men for not being sensitive to periods. When have men ever badmouthed women just because they have periods? Another way to feminize and demonize men in this marxist society. All the comments are disgusted and repulsed by this commercial. I can just see dads punishing their daughters when they get their periods and yelling and screaming at them....oh wait, this never happens because everyone understands women get them.

Really. I guess this is more history you're ignorant about. In many, many cultures women were ostracised while they were on their periods, considered "unclean". And it still goes on today.

Dude Gets Lit Up For Listing Why Women Need To Stop Complaining About Their ‘Disgusting’ Periods

You don't say:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYVDGYlV8v8[/youtube]

This is Half-life's America.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

No. I agree with that is true. I disagree with isn't true. I'm not one who takes a side and holds with all people on that side say even when ridiculous. That's more your thing.

I am not accusing you of that. I am talking about Half-Life's posts. You keep agreeing with them. You only had 1 minor disagreement and that was after I told you they were parodies. Think critically, dude. How can you objectively measure parodies by Halfie?

I had a rather major disagreement with Half Life. I still do. I also have a rather major disagreement with you. He isn't wrong when he says women have advantages in this society, and that some of them are even put directly into law. He has a point about that.He just fails to recognize that this goes in both directions, as do many of the feminists on this board.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Oh dear. You think that's runaway privilege for women? Because they wrote it knowing that some men would make women's pay exactly equal to the lowest paid man and claim the law told them to do that?

No.... I think it is privilege because it only cares about female jobs (it declaring things male and female jobs is in itself sexist as well) being paid as well, and not male jobs being paid as well. It is explicitly sexist Rhea. I'm sorry if you can only recognize such sexism if it runs in one direction but not the other. If this was written to specifically exclude fairness towards women and only enforced fairness for men, you'd be objecting. And I wouldn't be mocking you for it.

Or other laws such as violence against women or domestic abuse legislation that ignores violence against men.

So don't do any legislation until it's perfect, eh?

It isn't hard to put laws as gender neutral and against domestic violence, period. The urge to explicitly phrase it to exclude abused men, in order to score political points with the feminist crowd, is a legitimate problem.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

None of the things under discussion are rights.

Also, periods? You thought that was serious?

 

[laughing dog]

If women had everything in this society, then the makeup of the Senate, House, and SCOTUS would have more women. If women had everything in this society, Trump would not be President. If women had everything in this society, parental leave would be the law.

So, clearly, women do not have everything in this society. Moreover, there is little evidence that any advantages women have as women come close to the advantages that men as men have. If the same posters had a history of promoting and pushing for more equal treatment for women, their concerns and ridiculous whinges would appear sincere rather than as biased or disguised misogyny.

 

[Keith&Co.]

their concerns and ridiculous whinges would appear sincere rather than as biased or disguised misogyny.

like half's claim that women's equality is something men gave them, so they should be grateful and zip it?

Of course, if thast wrre true, AND women have more rights, it's something the dominant mens have gave them. So what's the male complaint, here?

 

[Metaphor]

their concerns and ridiculous whinges would appear sincere rather than as biased or disguised misogyny.

like half's claim that women's equality is something men gave them, so they should be grateful and zip it?

Of course, if thast wrre true, AND women have more rights, it's something the dominant mens have gave them. So what's the male complaint, here?

The complaint is that women have legal rights and social privileges that men do not. It ain't that hard to follow.

 

[Patooka]

their concerns and ridiculous whinges would appear sincere rather than as biased or disguised misogyny.

like half's claim that women's equality is something men gave them, so they should be grateful and zip it?

Of course, if thast wrre true, AND women have more rights, it's something the dominant mens have gave them. So what's the male complaint, here?

The complaint is that women have legal rights and social privileges that men do not. It ain't that hard to follow.

So do the disabled. They can park where they like. Disabled people don't know how easy they have it.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

their concerns and ridiculous whinges would appear sincere rather than as biased or disguised misogyny.

like half's claim that women's equality is something men gave them, so they should be grateful and zip it?

Of course, if thast wrre true, AND women have more rights, it's something the dominant mens have gave them. So what's the male complaint, here?

The complaint is that women have legal rights and social privileges that men do not. It ain't that hard to follow.

Goalpost shifting!

 

[Metaphor]

The complaint is that women have legal rights and social privileges that men do not. It ain't that hard to follow.

So do the disabled. They can park where they like. Disabled people don't know how easy they have it.

So women have legal rights and social privileges that men don't because being a woman is like being disabled?

 

[Metaphor]

The complaint is that women have legal rights and social privileges that men do not. It ain't that hard to follow.

Goalpost shifting!

How?

 

[laughing dog]

their concerns and ridiculous whinges would appear sincere rather than as biased or disguised misogyny.

like half's claim that women's equality is something men gave them, so they should be grateful and zip it?

Of course, if thast wrre true, AND women have more rights, it's something the dominant mens have gave them. So what's the male complaint, here?

The complaint is that women have legal rights and social privileges that men do not. It ain't that hard to follow.

Apparently the phrase "women have everything in society" is hard to follow because it does not mean women have legal rights and social privileges that men do not - at least in recognizable English.

 

[Metaphor]

The complaint is that women have legal rights and social privileges that men do not. It ain't that hard to follow.

Apparently the phrase "women have everything in society" is hard to follow because it does not mean women have legal rights and social privileges that men do not - at least in recognizable English.

Keith&Co said the complaint that women have more rights, if true, is somehow meaningless, because men decided to give them the rights. I don't understand how that is supposed to nullify the complaint.

 

[Patooka]

The complaint is that women have legal rights and social privileges that men do not. It ain't that hard to follow.

So do the disabled. They can park where they like. Disabled people don't know how easy they have it.

So women have legal rights and social privileges that men don't because being a woman is like being disabled?

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. It certainly isn't that it is impossible to find one for one parity between any two groups and the crux of the OP is that women consistently have it better than men, which frankly is bullshit.

But if this is the hill you want to die on, good luck to you.

 

[laughing dog]

The complaint is that women have legal rights and social privileges that men do not. It ain't that hard to follow.

Apparently the phrase "women have everything in society" is hard to follow because it does not mean women have legal rights and social privileges that men do not - at least in recognizable English.

Keith&Co said the complaint that women have more rights, if true, is somehow meaningless, because men decided to give them the rights. I don't understand how that is supposed to nullify the complaint.

I don't understand why you responded to my post which had nothing to do Keith's statement. Mine was about "women have everything in society".

Keith's point was in respect to Half-Life's claim that women have everything. If men put women in that position, then why are men complaining about it? It really is not hard to understand.

 

[Metaphor]

Keith&Co said the complaint that women have more rights, if true, is somehow meaningless, because men decided to give them the rights. I don't understand how that is supposed to nullify the complaint.

I don't understand why you responded to my post which had nothing to do Keith's statement. Mine was about "women have everything in society".

Keith's point was in respect to Half-Life's claim that women have everything. If men put women in that position, then why are men complaining about it? It really is not hard to understand.

I'm afraid it is hard to understand. Are the "men" who gave women everything the same men who are complaining that women have everything? If so, then yes, they have only themselves to blame.

But I submit to you that they're not the same men.

 

[Metaphor]

So women have legal rights and social privileges that men don't because being a woman is like being disabled?

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. It certainly isn't that it is impossible to find one for one parity between any two groups and the crux of the OP is that women consistently have it better than men, which frankly is bullshit.

But if this is the hill you want to die on, good luck to you.

Women don't have it "consistently" better than men, but being a woman is not the same, or even similar to, being disabled.

Women have certain legal privileges that men do not, and women have certain social advantages that men do not.

 

[Patooka]

So women have legal rights and social privileges that men don't because being a woman is like being disabled?

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. It certainly isn't that it is impossible to find one for one parity between any two groups and the crux of the OP is that women consistently have it better than men, which frankly is bullshit.

But if this is the hill you want to die on, good luck to you.

Women don't have it "consistently" better than men, but being a woman is not the same, or even similar to, being disabled.

Women have certain legal privileges that men do not, and women have certain social advantages that men do not.

Don't agree with you on the legal privileges, but you are right about the social advantages. I'll let you in on a dirty little secret - men have certain social advantages that women do not.

 

[laughing dog]

Keith&Co said the complaint that women have more rights, if true, is somehow meaningless, because men decided to give them the rights. I don't understand how that is supposed to nullify the complaint.

I don't understand why you responded to my post which had nothing to do Keith's statement. Mine was about "women have everything in society".

Keith's point was in respect to Half-Life's claim that women have everything. If men put women in that position, then why are men complaining about it? It really is not hard to understand.

I'm afraid it is hard to understand.

Apparently,even though it is pretty easy.

Are the "men" who gave women everything the same men who are complaining that women have everything? If so, then yes, they have only themselves to blame.

But I submit to you that they're not the same men.

Then they should stop whining about women and to women, but complain to those men.

 

[Metaphor]

Don't agree with you on the legal privileges

You can choose not to acknowledge facts, I suppose.

Start with one of the most basic legal female privileges: the right to genital integrity from birth. There is no country in the world that forbids the genital mutilation of baby boys.