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Who Is Watching All the Porn Marketed to Orthodox Jews?

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If you look hard enough on the internet, you can find just about any porn microniche. There's incest porn, amputee porn, Mormon porn, and porn that takes place exclusively on trampolines. Rule 34: If you can imagine it, the pornographic version already exists—including the emerging category of "frum porn," or porn for ultra-Orthodox Jews.

The term "frum" comes from the Yiddish word meaning "devout" or "pious," and is generally used to describe the most Orthodox Jewish communities. The popular webcam porn site clips4sale.com currently has 74 videos tagged "frum fetish," plus another 31 tagged "frum lesbians." That puts the frum genre somewhere between "Arab MILFs" (196 videos) and "albino fetish" (6 videos).

Many of the videos listed on clips4sale.com come from another site frumvids.com. The site is pay-to-play, but in a teaser video on the homepage, you can see a pair of women in ankle-length skirts and headscarves (a display of modesty) making out and then undressing each other. The whole thing gives off an amateur vibe, with poor lighting and bad video quality.

Modesty is considered a paramount virtue among Orthodox Jews, so the fact that frum porn exists is strange. Frum sects have adopted an ultra-conservative interpretation of the Torah, and adhere to a strict set of Jewish laws governing dress, behavior, and any contact between the sexes.

"In the face of modernity, Orthodox Jews—Hasidic Jews, in particular—have become even more insistent on modesty with respect to sexuality," said David Biale, a Jewish studies scholar at the University of California, Davis. "Insofar as they resist the modern world, they resist any kind of sexual license. Women are supposed to dress modestly and not reveal the flesh of their legs or their arms; if they're married, they don't reveal their own hair."

If that's the case, then what kind of Orthodox Jew would watch frum porn? I asked Nathan Abrams, a Jewish studies scholar who edited the 2008 anthology Jews & Sex. Abrams, who currently teaches film studies at Bangor University, said he'd heard of frum porn, but that he wasn't quite sure what to make of it.
 
I haven't been watching it, but now I'm too interested to not.
 
I don't understand the surprise; I thought everyone knew that people who make a big deal of how sinful particular behaviours are (particularly when those behaviours relate in any way to sex) don't abstain from those behaviours; they just conceal them.

Porn marketed to Orthodox Jews is consumed by Orthodox Jews.

Unsurprisingly, they won't admit it.

This is a non-story.
 
The only types of religious people that can justify sexualizing their culture are the ones that are able to redefine the terms of their own religious codes of behavior at will... So..basically all of them.
 
I don't understand the surprise; I thought everyone knew that people who make a big deal of how sinful particular behaviours are (particularly when those behaviours relate in any way to sex) don't abstain from those behaviours; they just conceal them.

Porn marketed to Orthodox Jews is consumed by Orthodox Jews.

Unsurprisingly, they won't admit it.

This is a non-story.

So you wouldn't make a 'big deal' out of having sex with a baby... less you be admitting to wanting sex with a baby, then. Right?
 
I wonder why I haven't had any Amish subscribing to my Amish porn site yet.


Oh yeah, never mind.

lol and yet Amish porn really does exist, and sells, on the internet. I guess nobody ever said porn has to make sense :D

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I don't understand the surprise; I thought everyone knew that people who make a big deal of how sinful particular behaviours are (particularly when those behaviours relate in any way to sex) don't abstain from those behaviours; they just conceal them.

Porn marketed to Orthodox Jews is consumed by Orthodox Jews.

Unsurprisingly, they won't admit it.

This is a non-story.

So you wouldn't make a 'big deal' out of having sex with a baby... less you be admitting to wanting sex with a baby, then. Right?

With a BABY?!!? Is that even physically possible?
 
lol and yet Amish porn really does exist, and sells, on the internet. I guess nobody ever said porn has to make sense :D

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I don't understand the surprise; I thought everyone knew that people who make a big deal of how sinful particular behaviours are (particularly when those behaviours relate in any way to sex) don't abstain from those behaviours; they just conceal them.

Porn marketed to Orthodox Jews is consumed by Orthodox Jews.

Unsurprisingly, they won't admit it.

This is a non-story.

So you wouldn't make a 'big deal' out of having sex with a baby... less you be admitting to wanting sex with a baby, then. Right?

With a BABY?!!? Is that even physically possible?

Quite possible, if you use a broad enough definition of "sex". I guess fingering the private parts of a baby/child/adolescent/adult might qualify under Swedish law.
 
lol and yet Amish porn really does exist, and sells, on the internet. I guess nobody ever said porn has to make sense :D

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I don't understand the surprise; I thought everyone knew that people who make a big deal of how sinful particular behaviours are (particularly when those behaviours relate in any way to sex) don't abstain from those behaviours; they just conceal them.

Porn marketed to Orthodox Jews is consumed by Orthodox Jews.

Unsurprisingly, they won't admit it.

This is a non-story.

So you wouldn't make a 'big deal' out of having sex with a baby... less you be admitting to wanting sex with a baby, then. Right?

With a BABY?!!? Is that even physically possible?

Your apparent outrage is obvious evidence you desire sex with babies.

One of my favorite jokes (for complete inappropriateness):

What is the best part about having sex with 23 year olds?


There are 20 of them!!!

 
I don't understand the surprise; I thought everyone knew that people who make a big deal of how sinful particular behaviours are (particularly when those behaviours relate in any way to sex) don't abstain from those behaviours; they just conceal them.

Porn marketed to Orthodox Jews is consumed by Orthodox Jews.

Unsurprisingly, they won't admit it.

This is a non-story.

So you wouldn't make a 'big deal' out of having sex with a baby... less you be admitting to wanting sex with a baby, then. Right?

I'm not aware of any religion that explicitly refers to paedophilia as a sin.

Sins are behaviours that are commonplace but prohibited; behaviours that are very clearly always immoral tend not to be declared 'sinful'.

There is nothing fundamentally immoral about eating pork or watching porn.

If you conflate immorality and sin, then you will never understand religion.
 
Or humor. People miss the mark all the fucking time. Which is funny from certain perspectives, but from uncertain ones....
 
http://www.vice.com/read/who-is-watching-all-the-porn-marketed-to-orthodox-jews-915
If you look hard enough on the internet, you can find just about any porn microniche. There's incest porn, amputee porn, Mormon porn, and porn that takes place exclusively on trampolines. Rule 34: If you can imagine it, the pornographic version already exists—including the emerging category of "frum porn," or porn for ultra-Orthodox Jews.

The term "frum" comes from the Yiddish word meaning "devout" or "pious," and is generally used to describe the most Orthodox Jewish communities. The popular webcam porn site clips4sale.com currently has 74 videos tagged "frum fetish," plus another 31 tagged "frum lesbians." That puts the frum genre somewhere between "Arab MILFs" (196 videos) and "albino fetish" (6 videos).

Many of the videos listed on clips4sale.com come from another site frumvids.com. The site is pay-to-play, but in a teaser video on the homepage, you can see a pair of women in ankle-length skirts and headscarves (a display of modesty) making out and then undressing each other. The whole thing gives off an amateur vibe, with poor lighting and bad video quality.

Modesty is considered a paramount virtue among Orthodox Jews, so the fact that frum porn exists is strange. Frum sects have adopted an ultra-conservative interpretation of the Torah, and adhere to a strict set of Jewish laws governing dress, behavior, and any contact between the sexes.

"In the face of modernity, Orthodox Jews—Hasidic Jews, in particular—have become even more insistent on modesty with respect to sexuality," said David Biale, a Jewish studies scholar at the University of California, Davis. "Insofar as they resist the modern world, they resist any kind of sexual license. Women are supposed to dress modestly and not reveal the flesh of their legs or their arms; if they're married, they don't reveal their own hair."

If that's the case, then what kind of Orthodox Jew would watch frum porn? I asked Nathan Abrams, a Jewish studies scholar who edited the 2008 anthology Jews & Sex. Abrams, who currently teaches film studies at Bangor University, said he'd heard of frum porn, but that he wasn't quite sure what to make of it.

Your premise is wrong.

No one thinks lesbian porn is marketed to lesbians; and I don't think any reasonable person would think your 'frum' porn is marketed to Jews.
 
Was the controversy over plagiarising someone's earlier idea? Because it's old hat - hijab and burka porn have been around for a very long time.

It is hardly newsworthy that religious people get offended by porn, either.

I think the main controversy was that the actress in question was actually from a Middle Eastern country.
 
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