Why are IS such big proponents of an American intervention against them?

[Tammuz]

The present American strategy against IS is trying to contain them (it seems to work somewhat, as IS has not expanded since last summer, but neitherh have they lost any significant territory either). Some American voices call for a full-scale military intervention against IS, with American ground troops.

Some of the biggest proponents of a full-scale American intervention are IS themselves. But why would they want that? It is clear that they would lose militarily. In fact, they'd lose a conventional war against the far weaker militaries of Turkey or Iran. They only perform decently against the corrupt, poorly motivated militaries of Iraq and Syria, and against Kurdish and Shia militias.

IS couldn't really function as a guerilla group, because their stake at authority is being a caliphate. It's not much of a caliphate if you don't control any territory.

IS have been rather poor military strategists. Had they been smarter they would have left the Iraqi Kurds alone, thereby avoiding American air-bombing. They could then have focused on taking various (Arab Sunni) towns and cities in Iraq and Syria (and they would have taken Kobane had the Americans not intervened). After that and some consolidation, they could have prepared for the final countdown with either Assad or the Iraqi government. Luckily for the rest of the world they weren't so clever.

 

[Derec]

They are religious fanatics. Perhaps they think they can win in the manner of Gideon or something.

 

[prideandfall]

because nobody seems to pay any attention to the fact that one of the stated goals bin laden articulated in his various videos was that he desired to embroil the US in a financially ruinous military campaign in an area of the world that is and always has been been an insurmountable shit-pile of violence, incivility, and social strife.
any non-middle eastern government that's ever tried to get involved in that area either eventually fled the region with their tail between their legs, or became financially and militarily crippled by their prolonged engagement there.

i don't see why it wouldn't be assumed that if one group of middle eastern patriots felt this way that another similar group wouldn't feel the same way,

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Having America lead a war against them leads itself into their main recruiting and fund-raising narrative that they're engaged in a Holy War of Islam vs Christianity. Also, given that a large number of their leaders put down their cigars and hookers and grew beards and became slightly more discrete with their hookers, they know how to run an insurgency campaign against the Americans that the Americans will get tired of and walk away from, since they've been doing that for the past decade.

Also, they're crazy.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

The present American strategy against IS is trying to contain them (it seems to work somewhat, as IS has not expanded since last summer, but neitherh have they lost any significant territory either). Some American voices call for a full-scale military intervention against IS, with American ground troops.

Some of the biggest proponents of a full-scale American intervention are IS themselves. But why would they want that? It is clear that they would lose militarily.

You might want to check out the other thread that explains this. They are looking to start the apocalypse. God will defeat the United States in a battle by sending Jesus to defend the pure Islamists.

It only makes sense to them.

 

[dismal]

The present American strategy against IS is trying to contain them (it seems to work somewhat, as IS has not expanded since last summer, but neitherh have they lost any significant territory either). Some American voices call for a full-scale military intervention against IS, with American ground troops.

Some of the biggest proponents of a full-scale American intervention are IS themselves. But why would they want that? It is clear that they would lose militarily.

You might want to check out the other thread that explains this. They are looking to start the apocalypse. God will defeat the United States in a battle by sending Jesus to defend the pure Islamists.

It only makes sense to them.

Yes, apparently they need us for an epic battle on the Plains of Dabiq to usher in the apocalypse.

Kinda like the French guy in Talladega Nights needed Ricky Bobby to challenge him so he could move on to the next thing.

I think maybe we should take them up on it. "ISIS dudes: we challenge you to an epic battle 4PM Thurdsay March 17, 2018 on the Planes of Dabiq. Winner take all."

 

[Nice Squirrel]

You might want to check out the other thread that explains this. They are looking to start the apocalypse. God will defeat the United States in a battle by sending Jesus to defend the pure Islamists.

It only makes sense to them.

Yes, apparently they need us for an epic battle on the Plains of Dabiq to usher in the apocalypse.

Kinda like the French guy in Talladega Nights needed Ricky Bobby to challenge him so he could move on to the next thing.

I think maybe we should take them up on it. "ISIS dudes: we challenge you to an epic battle 4PM Thurdsay March 17, 2018 on the Planes of Dabiq. Winner take all."

It might work. But I'll be pretty drunk at that time.

 

[Draconis]

Trying to make the US/the West seem the aggressor/main opponent and thus bring as many Muslims on board to fight them. Thing is, the US is pretty good at pulling strings in the region, and there are still some potentates there who can be persuaded to take on Daesh for us, thus muddying the waters.

btw - I've started to call them "Daesh" instead of "IS".

btw2 - after seeing some Ukrainian politician tonight accusing the rebels as being "terrorists", that caused me reflect on how that is another increasingly abused word.

 

[barbos]

Trying to make the US/the West seem the aggressor/main opponent and thus bring as many Muslims on board to fight them.

Correction, insane variety of "Muslims". Gene pool wise this could be a good thing to let insane motherfuckers to go in one place and die. But I still think we need to kill the idea instead and to do that we need to ignore their call for fight with us and let them die from their own filth.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

They think they can draw us in, blood us and make us run away with our tail between our legs.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

They think they can draw us in, blood us and make us run away with our tail between our legs.

Yes. What on Earth could make them think that that strategy would work against America?

 

[bilby]

They think they can draw us in, blood us and make us run away with our tail between our legs.

Yes. What on Earth could make them think that that strategy would work against America?

Real Americans don't read history.