Why did the Capital Police let the protesters inside the gates?

[RVonse]

I keep hearing over and over again from Democrat friends that if Trump had just conceded gracefully, the riot never would have happened.

Perhaps but we do not know that for sure. While we are at it we could also say if the protesters had never been born there would not have been a riot either. What is FAR more useful IMO is to say that the riot could never have happened if the capital police had not LET them get in. Many videos on the internet show the police clearly allowing them into the capital. This one from Black Voters Matter show them opening the gate for them. Opening the gate to one of the most secure buildings in the United States. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYck2BhEdKY&bpctr=1610483501 (Yes you can still watch this video)

I do agree with the video there was a deliberate effort by the police to let the protesters inside the building. But my disagreement with what they showed is that I do not believe it was as due to racism as other higher probabilities seem much more likely in my mind.

Let us apply Occam's razor and ask ourselves. Did they let them in because of racism....or did they let them in because the Trump supporters were not smart enough not to take the bait? Because once inside, the Democrats had their “insurrection” and “storming of the Capitol.”

Looks more like a "set up" to me than just everyday racism. But whatever their actual motive....something very weird took place and not a lot of good explanations anywhere I have found so far to explain any of it.

 

[cycomiko]

how about this......there weren't enough security forces to repel the coup attempt. therefore they stalled them just long enough to get the members of congress to secure locations and then let mob (not protesters) through to wander around like the morons they are.

that doesn't take some genius level of intellect to deduce.

occam's would actually point to it being exactly what it looked like. a bunch of idiots "protesting" nothing more than democracy and intelligence.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I keep hearing over and over again from Democrat friends that if Trump had just conceded gracefully, the riot never would have happened.

Probably not.

Perhaps....

I smell a butt!

...but...

Off by one 't'.

...we do not know that for sure.

LOL

While we are at it we could also say if the protesters had never been born there would not have been a riot either.

I disagree with you that we should have Government forced abortions to prevent riots that mass at the Capitol Building. Did you mean that? Perhaps.

What is FAR more useful IMO is to say that the riot could never have happened if the capital police had not LET them get in.

Many videos on the internet show the police clearly allowing them into the capital. This one from Black Voters Matter show them opening the gate for them. Opening the gate to one of the most secure buildings in the United States. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYck2BhEdKY&bpctr=1610483501 (Yes you can still watch this video)

Also several Capitol Police Officers were injured, two died from said injuries. We still don't have a 411 on what exactly happened where and when yet.

I do agree with the video there was a deliberate effort by the police to let the protesters inside the building. But my disagreement with what they showed is that I do not believe it was as due to racism as other higher probabilities seem much more likely in my mind.

Let us apply Occam's razor and ask ourselves.

Wait... you the guy that said if Trump's reaction to the election loss might not be connected with the riot... and now you want to assert Occam's Razor?

Did they let them in because of racism....or did they let them in because the Trump supporters were not smart enough not to take the bait? Because once inside, the Democrats had their “insurrection” and “storming of the Capitol.”

You seem a little confused. When #BLM marched in DC, there was a large National Guard presence. When people were storming to the Capitol Building doors, the Army said they weren't certain about the "optics" with sending the National Guard.

Looks more like a "set up" to me than just everyday racism. But whatever their actual motive....something very weird took place and not a lot of good explanations anywhere I have found so far to explain any of it.

Many middle aged and older white guys have been getting jacked off by the right-wing media about theft of an election, then they got verbal blowjobs by Trump and Giuliani and how they needed to go to the Capitol to do something. The Capitol Police were not ready for an insurrection as no previous EV count meeting was preceded by a 'go to the Capitol and doing something' rally. Were some Capitol Police defying their oath? Possibly. But the whole, thousands marching about dozens seems to speak volumes.

 

[laughing dog]

I keep hearing over and over again from Democrat friends that if Trump had just conceded gracefully, the riot never would have happened.

Perhaps but we do not know that for sure. While we are at it we could also say if the protesters had never been born there would not have been a riot either. What is FAR more useful IMO is to say that the riot could never have happened if the capital police had not LET them get in. Many videos on the internet show the police clearly allowing them into the capital. This one from Black Voters Matter show them opening the gate for them. Opening the gate to one of the most secure buildings in the United States. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYck2BhEdKY&bpctr=1610483501 (Yes you can still watch this video)

I do agree with the video there was a deliberate effort by the police to let the protesters inside the building. But my disagreement with what they showed is that I do not believe it was as due to racism as other higher probabilities seem much more likely in my mind.

Let us apply Occam's razor and ask ourselves. Did they let them in because of racism....or did they let them in because the Trump supporters were not smart enough not to take the bait? Because once inside, the Democrats had their “insurrection” and “storming of the Capitol.”

Looks more like a "set up" to me than just everyday racism. But whatever their actual motive....something very weird took place and not a lot of good explanations anywhere I have found so far to explain any of it.

The US Capitol is open to the public during regular business hours - something easily confirmed with Google search. I am afraid your conspiracy theory has no basis in reality.

Furthermore, so what if the police "let them in"? Did the officers make them carry in weapons, attack people and vandalize the capitol?

Really, what is this need to minimize the actions of these assholes?

 

[zorq]

First of all, it is clear from evidence that a great deal of police officers did NOT "let" the protesters inside the gates.

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1346966514990149639

Now let's look at your Occam's razor scenario. You think that there was a conspiracy between Democrats and the DC police to bait Trump's fanatics to cause a dangerous fiasco in the capital building? THAT is what you think is the simplest explanation?

Sorry dude, conspiracies that big are never the simple explanation. Plus, the consequences for collaborators in the event of this plan's success are dire.

How about this simple explanation: Seeing that their perimeter had been breached, Police decided to abandon certain access points and peacefully fall back to other more secure checkpoints thereby "letting" the protesters in. This prevents the police officers from getting flanked and put in a situation without an escape option and helps to reinforce other more significant access points that were all clearly understaffed.

Look at this video:
https://twitter.com/jihanbit/status/1346909463660396550
Notice all the civilians who are already behind the gate when the police let it open?

No, the most simple explanation has already been explained by Hillary Clinton back in 2016. You can sort Trump supporters into two baskets and half of them belong in the basket of deplorables. That's your Occam's razor.

 

[ZiprHead]

I keep hearing over and over again from Democrat friends that if Trump had just conceded gracefully, the riot never would have happened.

Perhaps but we do not know that for sure. While we are at it we could also say if the protesters had never been born there would not have been a riot either. What is FAR more useful IMO is to say that the riot could never have happened if the capital police had not LET them get in. Many videos on the internet show the police clearly allowing them into the capital. This one from Black Voters Matter show them opening the gate for them. Opening the gate to one of the most secure buildings in the United States. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYck2BhEdKY&bpctr=1610483501 (Yes you can still watch this video)

I do agree with the video there was a deliberate effort by the police to let the protesters inside the building. But my disagreement with what they showed is that I do not believe it was as due to racism as other higher probabilities seem much more likely in my mind.

Let us apply Occam's razor and ask ourselves. Did they let them in because of racism....or did they let them in because the Trump supporters were not smart enough not to take the bait? Because once inside, the Democrats had their “insurrection” and “storming of the Capitol.”

Looks more like a "set up" to me than just everyday racism. But whatever their actual motive....something very weird took place and not a lot of good explanations anywhere I have found so far to explain any of it.

Was Trump in on this plan when he sent his minions to the capital building?

 

[Patooka]

I keep hearing over and over again from Democrat friends that if Trump had just conceded gracefully, the riot never would have happened.

Perhaps but we do not know that for sure.

If you sodomize yourself with a cactus plant, is it going to hurt? Perhaps, but we do not know that for sure.

Let us know, ok?

 

[J842P]

It's really amazing watching both the right wing and left wing go crazy over this footage.

On the whole, I find it much more likely that some capitol hill cops are MAGA supporters, and thus, somehow participated in the riot. I find that much more likely than this was some sort of entrapment.

It all remains to be seen, and it is being investigated.

While I was watching it happen on twitter and CNN, my own thought was the whole thing looked like a controlled retreat, and the images of the police taking selfies and stuff was just them trying to placate the mob and buy time.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

I keep hearing over and over again from Democrat friends that if Trump had just conceded gracefully, the riot never would have happened.

If someone is completely duped by Trump's propaganda, I could see how they might interpret Trump manufacturing an election scandal and popularizing the idea--to include fighting against it as a duty--and propagandizing the idea he is a Chosen One, as merely not having "conceded." In reality, he has made alliances or even taken leadership of violent extremist groups and screamed about being a victim over and over to them.

Perhaps but we do not know that for sure.

Well, yes, we do know for sure that if Trump never lied he won the election, then there'd never be a huge insurrection of Trump supporters over it.

While we are at it we could also say if the protesters had never been born there would not have been a riot either.

Well, that might not be true. The idea is in the ether that the election is unfair and anger is all over the place. Some people may not have went because they saw enough numbers already and if numbers were very thin, they might see it as their duty to go. Likewise, there were other different people going on different days. And other crazies may have rioted on a different day, or the same day depending on when the crazies and the brainwashed went.

What is FAR more useful IMO is to say that the riot could never have happened if the capital police had not LET them get in.

WOW, you fell for something without even being able to think critically about it. Look at the video. People adjacent to them had already crossed the boundary--the boundary Trump told them to cross implicitly by saying he would march with them to the capitol and they would pressure Congress together, a co-equal branch...being pressured by violent extremists. But back to the video, there were people to the side and people even already past the gate telling them to come on. So whatever reason they moved the barriers it seemed to have no effect since people already were going around them. What possible reason could they do this? I don't know. Maybe it had to do with people being trampled in the stampede?

What is even more concerning is the cop with the MAGA hat who was leading Trump supporters and QAnon conspriacy theorists around the building to different offices to take our elected officials. That wouldn't happen if Trump wasn't stoking this fire so much that people thought it was their duty to defend the democracy by killing elected officials.

Many videos on the internet show the police clearly allowing them into the capital. This one from Black Voters Matter show them opening the gate for them. Opening the gate to one of the most secure buildings in the United States. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYck2BhEdKY&bpctr=1610483501 (Yes you can still watch this video)

see above...

I do agree with the video there was a deliberate effort by the police to let the protesters inside the building. But my disagreement with what they showed is that I do not believe it was as due to racism as other higher probabilities seem much more likely in my mind.

Let us apply Occam's razor and ask ourselves. Did they let them in because of racism....or did they let them in because the Trump supporters were not smart enough not to take the bait? Because once inside, the Democrats had their “insurrection” and “storming of the Capitol.”

Looks more like a "set up" to me than just everyday racism. But whatever their actual motive....something very weird took place and not a lot of good explanations anywhere I have found so far to explain any of it.

Wow. You really are uninformed, aren't you?

Try actually reading the very words of the people who conducted the insurrection. For example, go onto PARLER. Read the words of the ProudBoys leader (not Trump, but instead his 2nd in command). He posts "don't f-ing leave" once they are in. He incites violence by his followers. He says they need to do it for democracy and Trump.

And after the illegal entry and at least some of the violence (2 HOURS AFTER THEY CROSSED BOUNDARIES TRUMP WANTED THEM TO CROSS), he said go home. And "I love you" and "You are special."

Jesus Christ, don't you get it??!!

 

[lpetrich]

I keep hearing over and over again from Democrat friends that if Trump had just conceded gracefully, the riot never would have happened.

Your "Democrat friends" are right, because Trump would not have been encouraging his followers to do things like take over the Capitol building.

 

[Patooka]

I keep hearing over and over again from Democrat friends that if Trump had just conceded gracefully, the riot never would have happened.

Your "Democrat friends" are right, because Trump would not have been encouraging his followers to do things like take over the Capitol building.

You're dead wrong, and I demand Trial by Combat to prove I'm right.

 

[ideologyhunter]

You actually intend to fight Rudy? I want tickets.

 

[Patooka]

You actually intend to fight Rudy? I want tickets.

I do, and my choice of weapons is three week old horse turds.

 

[bilby]

I keep hearing over and over again from Democrat friends that if Trump had just conceded gracefully, the riot never would have happened.

Perhaps but we do not know that for sure. While we are at it we could also say if the protesters had never been born there would not have been a riot either. What is FAR more useful IMO is to say that the riot could never have happened if the capital police had not LET them get in. Many videos on the internet show the police clearly allowing them into the capital. This one from Black Voters Matter show them opening the gate for them. Opening the gate to one of the most secure buildings in the United States. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYck2BhEdKY&bpctr=1610483501 (Yes you can still watch this video)

I do agree with the video there was a deliberate effort by the police to let the protesters inside the building. But my disagreement with what they showed is that I do not believe it was as due to racism as other higher probabilities seem much more likely in my mind.

Let us apply Occam's razor and ask ourselves. Did they let them in because of racism....or did they let them in because the Trump supporters were not smart enough not to take the bait? Because once inside, the Democrats had their “insurrection” and “storming of the Capitol.”

Looks more like a "set up" to me than just everyday racism. But whatever their actual motive....something very weird took place and not a lot of good explanations anywhere I have found so far to explain any of it.

You seem to have confused your apophenia for Occam's razor.

Apophenia: The tendency to perceive a connection or meaningful pattern between unrelated or random things (such as objects or ideas)

All conspiracy theories depend on apophenia. It's a universal human cognitive error, and one that we must all be constantly vigilant against, if we are to avoid believing crazy nonsense.

If you cannot explain the things you observe, that's an opportunity to investigate further, and/or to accept that your understanding, like everyone else's, can never be complete.

It's not an excuse for doing a join-the-dots exercise that paints the picture you feel like seeing. What seems more likely in your mind is pure fantasy. A theory needs to fit the facts that exist outside your mind, and if there's a shortage of such facts, the correct path is to treat your theories with deep suspicion. The incorrect (but hugely popular) path is to incorporate your fantasies to fill the gaps that should be occupied by genuine facts, leading to a theory that feels very well supported and strong, but that is sadly neither.

 

[Keith&Co.]

I keep hearing over and over again from Democrat friends that if Trump had just conceded gracefully, the riot never would have happened.

Your "Democrat friends" are right, because Trump would not have been encouraging his followers to do things like take over the Capitol building.

Well, it would have at least changed the narrative. Instead of "I was robbed, go do justice," he might have tried, "i lost, yes, but now go fix that for me."
Knowing him, he'd have blamed them. "You voted for me, but you didn't vote enough! You didn't talk you neighbor OUT of voting for Biden. But you can make up for it, now...."

Might not have mattered a damn if he had conceded, but didn't want to.

 

[Shadowy Man]

First of all, it is clear from evidence that a great deal of police officers did NOT "let" the protesters inside the gates.

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1346966514990149639

Interesting video. There’s one aggressive guy at the front who takes off his jacket and puts his hat on backwards. he then pushes once on the fence. Then a big guy in camo comes up and pulls him aside and tells him something. Immediately after there is a big push to overrun the fence.

There were groups of these well equipped men in amongst the crowds who moved with great precision and determination.

Quite possible they were the ones with the big plans and they used the rest of the mob as cover and distraction as they moved on their plans.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

You actually intend to fight Rudy? I want tickets.

I do, and my choice of weapons is three week old horse turds.

I've had chosen garlic and a mirror.

 

[Keith&Co.]

You actually intend to fight Rudy? I want tickets.

I do, and my choice of weapons is three week old horse turds.

I've had chosen garlic and a mirror.

TV camera. Mount it to the side, wait for Rudy to monopolize it, then attack him from behind at your leisure.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The main reason for the cops abandoning the barriers was a lack of defensibility. The police had nowhere near the manpower needed, they retreated to more defensible positions.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

There were already people there adjacent to the guy who was waving them in. These people were all past the barrier...but out of camera angle for most of the video...not only that there are no barriers for them adjacent to this narrow view we see and we don't even know exactly where it is.



*this is an snapshot from the 37.7M viewed video on twitter that is the source of the op video and displayed within it. So the seconds will be different but you can find the same quick, pan to the right.