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A mom who stabbed her rapist to death, then tied a rope around his neck and dragged him behind her car for a mile has been jailed for nine years.

Roxanne Eka Peters, 35, slashed Grant Cassar, 51, with a kitchen knife after he threatened to harm her daughter unless she submitted to more sex, a court heard.

She knifed the rapist in the heart at her home in Brisbane, Australia, then towed his corpse past a police station to a ditch, where she hid it in December 2015.

A judge said she was “enraged” at Cassar’s previous rape and sick threats, but that did not excuse her lack of respect for his “human dignity.”
 
Since when is death the penalty for rape?

Cassar’s body was found with 61 injuries including stab wounds to the chest and penis.

yikes.


Actually, as I reconsider, death is an acceptable means of stopping a rape, as per Colorado law. You can legally shoot someone to stop a rape.
However, a penalty of death is not used to punish rape. Odd, actually.
 
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A mom who stabbed her rapist to death, then tied a rope around his neck and dragged him behind her car for a mile has been jailed for nine years.

Roxanne Eka Peters, 35, slashed Grant Cassar, 51, with a kitchen knife after he threatened to harm her daughter unless she submitted to more sex, a court heard.

She knifed the rapist in the heart at her home in Brisbane, Australia, then towed his corpse past a police station to a ditch, where she hid it in December 2015.

A judge said she was “enraged” at Cassar’s previous rape and sick threats, but that did not excuse her lack of respect for his “human dignity.”

Yeah. Men tend to dislike women who get enraged. Especially after small things such as rape or threatening to rape your child. Now, if she had been protecting her son from a rapist, it might have been different. Still, she should have submitted to the male police authorities instead of acting out of rage.

That poor rapist’s family! How will they survive his loss???

It’s not like her daughter will face any loss over her morher’s incarceration.
 
Ya, that's the right call. As much as I'd stand on the side of the road and applaud her as she drove past dragging him along, a civilized society cannot condone vigilante actions on the part of their citizens. If she'd called the police after stabbing him, she'd be a hero but all of the other stuff makes her a criminal.
 
Since when is death the penalty for rape?

I thought you gun nut types were all for protecting your home and property from threats. Stand your ground and all that shit?

But then, maybe to you a woman’s body and that if her daughter is less important than any cash or electronics a black man midnight take from your home.

Still, from the picture, she’s blonde. I would have thought that would have garnered her some sympathy...
 
Ya, that's the right call. As much as I'd stand on the side of the road and applaud her as she drove past dragging him along, a civilized society cannot condone vigilante actions on the part of their citizens. If she'd called the police after stabbing him, she'd be a hero but all of the other stuff makes her a criminal.

True. A woman must always behave like a law abiding lady, even after being raped, threatened with more rape and defending her daughter from a rapist. That barely even counts as trauma.
 
Ya, that's the right call. As much as I'd stand on the side of the road and applaud her as she drove past dragging him along, a civilized society cannot condone vigilante actions on the part of their citizens. If she'd called the police after stabbing him, she'd be a hero but all of the other stuff makes her a criminal.

True. A woman must always behave like a law abiding lady, even after being raped, threatened with more rape and defending her daughter from a rapist. That barely even counts as trauma.

Well, congratulations. Please be sure to mention me when you accept your award for The Most Completely Random Internet Post Of The Day. :huh:
 
Forget the nominal "9 years". She will be able to get out in 2020, because she is a woman.
That's entirely too light a punishment. Especially since her victim is dead and cannot contradict any of her self-serving claims.
 
Forget the nominal "9 years". She will be able to get out in 2020, because she is a woman.
That's entirely too light a punishment. Especially since her victim is dead and cannot contradict any of her self-serving claims.

Wow. Wait: I take that back. Least surprising post in this thread.
 
Ya, that's the right call. As much as I'd stand on the side of the road and applaud her as she drove past dragging him along, a civilized society cannot condone vigilante actions on the part of their citizens. If she'd called the police after stabbing him, she'd be a hero but all of the other stuff makes her a criminal.

True. A woman must always behave like a law abiding lady, even after being raped, threatened with more rape and defending her daughter from a rapist. That barely even counts as trauma.

Well, congratulations. Please be sure to mention me when you accept your award for The Most Completely Random Internet Post Of The Day. :huh:

Random?

I truly do get the fact that she didn't call the police after, that she dragged his body and concealed it and that those are not good actions.

I also get being so traumatized by both the rape and threats for continued rape and harm of her daughter but also the trauma of killing someone. Normal people are traumatized by being assaulted and also by defending themselves, especially when they kill an attacker, however justified their defense. PTSD is not just for combat soldiers.
 
Well, congratulations. Please be sure to mention me when you accept your award for The Most Completely Random Internet Post Of The Day. :huh:

Random?

I truly do get the fact that she didn't call the police after, that she dragged his body and concealed it and that those are not good actions.

I also get being so traumatized by both the rape and threats for continued rape and harm of her daughter but also the trauma of killing someone. Normal people are traumatized by being assaulted and also by defending themselves, especially when they kill an attacker, however justified their defense. PTSD is not just for combat soldiers.

OK, I just reread the article. I had first seen it as him being alive when she dragged him behind the car and this is what killed him and it was going too far on her part and she deserved jail for it. He actually died of the stabbing. That was self-defense and I have no issue with his death.

Upon consideration of that point, the improper disposal of the body merits some community service on her part and perhaps she should bake some cupcakes for the people who then had to go out and hose down the streets he bled all over. Nine years in prison is not warranted.
 
Since when is death the penalty for rape?

I thought you gun nut types were all for protecting your home and property from threats. Stand your ground and all that shit?

But then, maybe to you a woman’s body and that if her daughter is less important than any cash or electronics a black man midnight take from your home.

Still, from the picture, she’s blonde. I would have thought that would have garnered her some sympathy...

You should have read the rest of the post you quoted and not just the first line. You would have not only had your answer, but an interesting point to consider along the lines of what you said.
 
That poor rapist’s family! How will they survive his loss???

Ya, that was the weirdest line in the article. No sympathy for this dude is warranted.

I agree that was the weirdest part. Once the rapist threatened the daughter, I'd say 3 or 4 deaths were due to him... and I'd say that kind of dept is inherited. So, maybe leave the family's feeling out of it, lest they get a visit.
 
Since when is death the penalty for rape?

I thought you gun nut types were all for protecting your home and property from threats. Stand your ground and all that shit?

But then, maybe to you a woman’s body and that if her daughter is less important than any cash or electronics a black man midnight take from your home.

Still, from the picture, she’s blonde. I would have thought that would have garnered her some sympathy...

also... I thought you Social Justice Warrior types were all about "since when is the penalty death for driving while black"
 
Well, congratulations. Please be sure to mention me when you accept your award for The Most Completely Random Internet Post Of The Day. :huh:

Random?

I truly do get the fact that she didn't call the police after, that she dragged his body and concealed it and that those are not good actions.

I also get being so traumatized by both the rape and threats for continued rape and harm of her daughter but also the trauma of killing someone. Normal people are traumatized by being assaulted and also by defending themselves, especially when they kill an attacker, however justified their defense. PTSD is not just for combat soldiers.

OK, I just reread the article. I had first seen it as him being alive when she dragged him behind the car and this is what killed him and it was going too far on her part and she deserved jail for it. He actually died of the stabbing. That was self-defense and I have no issue with his death.

Upon consideration of that point, the improper disposal of the body merits some community service on her part and perhaps she should bake some cupcakes for the people who then had to go out and hose down the streets he bled all over. Nine years in prison is not warranted.

Like you I have zero problem with a person killing their rapist in self defense. In fact, a person who we can be certain committed a violent rape should get a penalty of death. However, this guy's death was caused by an accumulation of many stab wounds and injuries. Odds are that he was incapacitated and wounded well before he died, which makes it no longer self-defense but killing as punishment and to ensure he could never harm her or her daughter in the future. Which, again, is understandable and I don't have a moral problem with it assuming all her claims about his actions and threats are true. However, unless we are going to allow deadly vigilantly justice, then she committed a serious violent crime that went beyond self defense. So, manslaughter was the correct verdict and she'll wind up serving 4-5 years for it.

Also, Toni's response to you is still an irrational strawman. You simply pointed out that people cannot be allowed to kill other people even when the are traumatized, or rightfully filled with vengeful rage. She, as usual, made it all about gender bias and accused you of assuming that it is only "ladies" who must not kill out of vengeance and that rape isn't a big deal or trauma causing.
 
Forget the nominal "9 years". She will be able to get out in 2020, because she is a woman.
On what factual basis do you make the claim?
That's entirely too light a punishment. Especially since her victim is dead and cannot contradict any of her self-serving claims.
According to the cited article, there seemed to be no doubt that the victim was a rapist. Are you claiming one cannot kill to prevent being raped?
 
OK, I just reread the article. I had first seen it as him being alive when she dragged him behind the car and this is what killed him and it was going too far on her part and she deserved jail for it. He actually died of the stabbing. That was self-defense and I have no issue with his death.

Upon consideration of that point, the improper disposal of the body merits some community service on her part and perhaps she should bake some cupcakes for the people who then had to go out and hose down the streets he bled all over. Nine years in prison is not warranted.

Like you I have zero problem with a person killing their rapist in self defense. In fact, a person who we can be certain committed a violent rape should get a penalty of death. However, this guy's death was caused by an accumulation of many stab wounds and injuries. Odds are that he was incapacitated and wounded well before he died, which makes it no longer self-defense but killing as punishment and to ensure he could never harm her or her daughter in the future. Which, again, is understandable and I don't have a moral problem with it assuming all her claims about his actions and threats are true. However, unless we are going to allow deadly vigilantly justice, then she committed a serious violent crime that went beyond self defense. So, manslaughter was the correct verdict and she'll wind up serving 4-5 years for it.

Also, Toni's response to you is still an irrational strawman. You simply pointed out that people cannot be allowed to kill other people even when the are traumatized, or rightfully filled with vengeful rage. She, as usual, made it all about gender bias and accused you of assuming that it is only "ladies" who must not kill out of vengeance and that rape isn't a big deal or trauma causing.

Ya I don’t know. A life or death fight, you keep stabbing until you’re sure it’s done. You don’t step back and reassess the situation halfway through. I’d give her that one.
 
OK, I just reread the article. I had first seen it as him being alive when she dragged him behind the car and this is what killed him and it was going too far on her part and she deserved jail for it. He actually died of the stabbing. That was self-defense and I have no issue with his death.

Upon consideration of that point, the improper disposal of the body merits some community service on her part and perhaps she should bake some cupcakes for the people who then had to go out and hose down the streets he bled all over. Nine years in prison is not warranted.

Like you I have zero problem with a person killing their rapist in self defense. In fact, a person who we can be certain committed a violent rape should get a penalty of death. However, this guy's death was caused by an accumulation of many stab wounds and injuries. Odds are that he was incapacitated and wounded well before he died, which makes it no longer self-defense but killing as punishment and to ensure he could never harm her or her daughter in the future. Which, again, is understandable and I don't have a moral problem with it assuming all her claims about his actions and threats are true. However, unless we are going to allow deadly vigilantly justice, then she committed a serious violent crime that went beyond self defense. So, manslaughter was the correct verdict and she'll wind up serving 4-5 years for it.

Also, Toni's response to you is still an irrational strawman. You simply pointed out that people cannot be allowed to kill other people even when the are traumatized, or rightfully filled with vengeful rage. She, as usual, made it all about gender bias and accused you of assuming that it is only "ladies" who must not kill out of vengeance and that rape isn't a big deal or trauma causing.

Ya I don’t know. A life or death fight, you keep stabbing until you’re sure it’s done. You don’t step back and reassess the situation halfway through. I’d give her that one.
Exactly - at this point there is not information to assess which stabblings (if any) were post mortem, or what exactly happened between them.

I do think the towing and hiding of the body probably exacerbated the charges and the sentence, since the article makes it seem that there was no doubt the victim was a rapist.
 
https://nypost.com/2018/10/30/woman-sentenced-to-9-years-in-prison-for-killing-rapist/?utm_source=facebook_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site+buttons&utm_campaign=site+buttons&fbclid=IwAR2G4WCcboYwpLs3YzN3bBCxUEdci2hMTVD8heMtDQlKIqX-1U4dTO1upLM

A mom who stabbed her rapist to death, then tied a rope around his neck and dragged him behind her car for a mile has been jailed for nine years.

Roxanne Eka Peters, 35, slashed Grant Cassar, 51, with a kitchen knife after he threatened to harm her daughter unless she submitted to more sex, a court heard.

She knifed the rapist in the heart at her home in Brisbane, Australia, then towed his corpse past a police station to a ditch, where she hid it in December 2015.

A judge said she was “enraged” at Cassar’s previous rape and sick threats, but that did not excuse her lack of respect for his “human dignity.”

Yeah. Men tend to dislike women who get enraged. Especially after small things such as rape or threatening to rape your child. Now, if she had been protecting her son from a rapist, it might have been different. Still, she should have submitted to the male police authorities instead of acting out of rage.

That poor rapist’s family! How will they survive his loss???

It’s not like her daughter will face any loss over her morher’s incarceration.

:rolleyes:
 
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