Women Drivers

[Copernicus]

The fact is that women are at fault for making mistakes, sometimes even being incompetent, that lead to disasters like this. It is an effrontery to all males that some woman can just show up and usurp their right to be incompetent or just make a foolish error. It takes decades--nay, centuries--of a track record of screw ups and incompetent behavior before one earns the right to have something other than one's gender be seen as the root cause of the problem. Until then, women need to realize that they must be super competent at all times and never, never screw something up. Only then will they have earned the right to be treated as individuals and not representatives of their entire gender class.

 

[Toni]

Insurance costs make it quite clear that men are poorer drivers.

Actually, I'm not sure of that. From what I've seen women are the worse drivers but the men tend to be more spectacularly wrong. Thinking of what insurance has paid out on accidents over the years there was only one case when it was a man driving--but that one payout is considerably more than the total of the handful of times it was women who hit me.

Since we are using personal experiences as evidence:


I've been hit twice by young men and once by a young woman. One young man took off when we went to call the police after he backed into the side of my vehicle while leaving a store parking lot, me at a stop sign. The other young man also backed into me and tried to blame me for the accident although he clearly struck the side of my vehicle while he was backing out of a drive so that he could turn around. He just wasn't looking. The other time I was struck was a young woman who rear-ended me at low speeds because she didn't see my brake lights come on when I stopped for pedestrians in the rain in failing light. She stopped immediately, apologized profusely and there was no problem at all with the insurance claim. If memory serves, being rear-ended was a larger insurance claim because my car was brand new at the time.

I've never struck another vehicle in my life. Once during a particularly nasty snow storm, a chunk of snow/ice went up into my wheel well and caused me to spin out, and I struck a light pole but no cars. A number of vehicles managed to drive around me and someone called the police before I could. I did not note the gender of the drivers of vehicles who did not hit my car but my experience tells me it was likely a 50/50 mix of genders.

My husband has had several accidents, including a couple of at fault accidents.

By my data, men are twice as likely to have/cause car accidents as are women. More if you compare the miles I've driven compared with the miles my husband has driven.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

What? No it doesn’t.
It does not say women are worse drivers. It says they are more likely to be killed in equal severity, which we all know since the safety devices are sized for men and leave women with sub-standard protection.

But it definitely does NOT say that women are worse drivers. You had a little anecdote about that which is instantly disproven by my own anecdote which is the opposite and is no more a “data” than your anecdote was.

The data says clearly that men are worse drivers based on the objective evidence of them crashing all the time.

The problem here is how do you define "worse"?

The pattern is: women, more small crashes. Men, fewer crashes, but the ones that happen tend to be bigger. Which is worse comes down to what yardstick you use.

 

[ruby sparks]

The problem here is how do you define "worse"?

The pattern is: women, more small crashes. Men, fewer crashes, but the ones that happen tend to be bigger. Which is worse comes down to what yardstick you use.

Can you think of a yardstick for defining 'worse'? Much higher prevalence of causing death or serious injury maybe? Just a suggestion.

 

[Rhea]

The problem here is how do you define "worse"?

The pattern is: women, more small crashes. Men, fewer crashes, but the ones that happen tend to be bigger. Which is worse comes down to what yardstick you use.

Can you think of a yardstick for defining 'worse'? Much higher prevalence of causing death or serious injury maybe? Just a suggestion.

Here’s a suggestion, he could actually look for measures instead of making up from his one story, that somehow the entire population of drivers is identical to his one story.

The insurance companies are pretty clear who the problem is. So are the police departments. They think Loren’s yardstick is just Loren making excuses for himself.

This s he silliest thing. “Loren knows a woman who got in a crash, therefore all women get in crashes. And men do too, but we’ll measure them special so we can call the women worse.”

And again, if anecdotes make the rule, my husband and son get in far more accidents than me, inlcuding little ones. So there, you’re wrong.

 

[TSwizzle]

Where does Caitlyn Jenner fall in to in all of this ?

 

[Rhea]

Where does Caitlyn Jenner fall in to in all of this ?

She has perfected the U-turn.