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It's been...decades since I looked at anything Bryn Mawr related so I decided to pull up it's demographics. Zero surprises here:

https://www.brynmawr.edu/admissions/class-profile

Really? I found it quite surprising. For a state that is 81.6% white, its student body is only 52% white. And I searched high and low for its gender diversity plans, but they appear to be absent, despite Bryn Mawr's 100% women undergraduate class.
 
It's been...decades since I looked at anything Bryn Mawr related so I decided to pull up it's demographics. Zero surprises here:

https://www.brynmawr.edu/admissions/class-profile

Really? I found it quite surprising. For a state that is 81.6% white, its student body is only 52% white.

17% are international students and 2% are listed as unknown. 'White' as a category in US demographics also tends to include a certain percentage of 'Hispanic'. According to the Census Bureau, the "White alone, not Hispanic or Latino" population of Pennsylvania is 75.7%. The school draws from across the country, though not evenly. Nationally, the "white (non-Hispanic)" population is 61.5%.

White people make up 62.6% of the American student population at Bryn Mawr. Low for Pennsylvania, specifically, but proportionate for the US overall. This isn't factoring in that racial distribution is not even by age*.

I don't really give a shit about what conclusions you want to draw, but if you're going to get pissy with, "Please stop responding to my posts when you can't be bothered to do the bare minimum," maybe you should put in a modicum of effort yourself.

*https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/07/30/most-common-age-among-us-racial-ethnic-groups/
 
B-b-but before you go... I don't read much of meta's garbage, but his thread titles show up even if he's on ignore.
So I find myself wondering about this latest hobby horse he is whipping. "CRT"?
Culturally Responsive Teaching?
Critical Race Theory?

All of the above?
Inquiring minds don't really want to know...
Poor meta.

Credulously Regurgitated Topics?
I guess it this dates me, I see CRT as Cathode Ray Tube .

Nope. Last time I upgraded my computer, even with the adapter, my new setup said "Fuck you". Had to buy a 16:9 monitor for the first time. I miss my 4:3.

Having said that, I remember when Ninja Turtles were new. So maybe I am showing my age.
 
It's been...decades since I looked at anything Bryn Mawr related so I decided to pull up it's demographics. Zero surprises here:

https://www.brynmawr.edu/admissions/class-profile

Really? I found it quite surprising. For a state that is 81.6% white, its student body is only 52% white.

17% are international students and 2% are listed as unknown. 'White' as a category in US demographics also tends to include a certain percentage of 'Hispanic'. According to the Census Bureau, the "White alone, not Hispanic or Latino" population of Pennsylvania is 75.7%. The school draws from across the country, though not evenly. Nationally, the "white (non-Hispanic)" population is 61.5%.

White people make up 62.6% of the American student population at Bryn Mawr. Low for Pennsylvania, specifically, but proportionate for the US overall. This isn't factoring in that racial distribution is not even by age*.

I don't really give a shit about what conclusions you want to draw, but if you're going to get pissy with, "Please stop responding to my posts when you can't be bothered to do the bare minimum," maybe you should put in a modicum of effort yourself.

*https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/07/30/most-common-age-among-us-racial-ethnic-groups/

What on earth are you talking about? Toni posted a link to Bryn Mawr's demographics, and, wrote 'zero surprises here', without further comment.

Now, Toni may have thought her comment spoke for itself. And I understood Toni to mean the college was unsurprisingly white. Yet, I think it is surprisingly less white than you might think. There's no need to jump on me because I tried to make sense of Toni's drive-by comment.
 
17% are international students and 2% are listed as unknown. 'White' as a category in US demographics also tends to include a certain percentage of 'Hispanic'. According to the Census Bureau, the "White alone, not Hispanic or Latino" population of Pennsylvania is 75.7%. The school draws from across the country, though not evenly. Nationally, the "white (non-Hispanic)" population is 61.5%.

White people make up 62.6% of the American student population at Bryn Mawr. Low for Pennsylvania, specifically, but proportionate for the US overall. This isn't factoring in that racial distribution is not even by age*.

I don't really give a shit about what conclusions you want to draw, but if you're going to get pissy with, "Please stop responding to my posts when you can't be bothered to do the bare minimum," maybe you should put in a modicum of effort yourself.

*https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/07/30/most-common-age-among-us-racial-ethnic-groups/

What on earth are you talking about? Toni posted a link to Bryn Mawr's demographics, and, wrote 'zero surprises here', without further comment.

Now, Toni may have thought her comment spoke for itself. And I understood Toni to mean the college was unsurprisingly white. Yet, I think it is surprisingly less white than you might think. There's no need to jump on me because I tried to make sense of Toni's drive-by comment.

People are still trying to make sense of the OP. Let's not get sidetracked.
 
17% are international students and 2% are listed as unknown. 'White' as a category in US demographics also tends to include a certain percentage of 'Hispanic'. According to the Census Bureau, the "White alone, not Hispanic or Latino" population of Pennsylvania is 75.7%. The school draws from across the country, though not evenly. Nationally, the "white (non-Hispanic)" population is 61.5%.

White people make up 62.6% of the American student population at Bryn Mawr. Low for Pennsylvania, specifically, but proportionate for the US overall. This isn't factoring in that racial distribution is not even by age*.

I don't really give a shit about what conclusions you want to draw, but if you're going to get pissy with, "Please stop responding to my posts when you can't be bothered to do the bare minimum," maybe you should put in a modicum of effort yourself.

*https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/07/30/most-common-age-among-us-racial-ethnic-groups/

What on earth are you talking about? Toni posted a link to Bryn Mawr's demographics, and, wrote 'zero surprises here', without further comment.

Now, Toni may have thought her comment spoke for itself. And I understood Toni to mean the college was unsurprisingly white. Yet, I think it is surprisingly less white than you might think. There's no need to jump on me because I tried to make sense of Toni's drive-by comment.

I see. So Toni said something that didn't make immediate sense to you, so you improved the situation by saying something that made no fucking sense back? Well done. That makes your post so much more rational.

Maybe Toni was referring to underrepresented demographics on campus, or maybe it was something else. You know what could have solved that better than poor basic math and data comprehension? Asking.
 
I see. So Toni said something that didn't make immediate sense to you, so you improved the situation by saying something that made no fucking sense back?

What did I say that made 'no fucking sense'? That Bryn Mawr was less white than the state of Pennsylvania?

Well done. That makes your post so much more rational.

What was irrational about Toni's post, or mine?

Maybe Toni was referring to underrepresented demographics on campus, or maybe it was something else. You know what could have solved that better than poor basic math and data comprehension? Asking.

Are you suggesting that I have poor basic math and data comprehension? Why?
 
What did I say that made 'no fucking sense'? That Bryn Mawr was less white than the state of Pennsylvania?

That you were surprised by the number you cited when you didn't even really look at the data in front of you, or that you thought it specifically relevant how white the state of Pennsylvania is given the data before you.

What was irrational about Toni's post, or mine?

Just yours. You specifically honed in on how white people were represented without even citing the correct figure, and without actually stopping to question whether your observation makes sense. Rather than ask Toni for clarification, you made an assumption about her post, then responded based on that assumption, then fucked up that response anyway.

You were 'surprised' by the number you found, but perhaps had your inquisitiveness extended beyond the notion that white people are less represented in admissions or on campus than one might think, you'd have gotten far enough to realize the percentage of white students probably shouldn't actually be that surprising.

Are you suggesting that I have poor basic math and data comprehension? Why?

Yes. I mean, you tried to map Bryn Mawr's admission statistics to the state of Pennsylvania's racial demographics when it doesn't exactly make sense to do so. But beyond that, you didn't even do it properly at a basic level.
 
That you were surprised by the number you cited when you didn't even really look at the data in front of you,

I was surprised. I expected Bryn Mawr to be a lot whiter than it actually is.

or that you thought it specifically relevant how white the state of Pennsylvania is given the data before you.

This isn't my thinking. I don't think any particular college needs to reflect some underlying population at a local, state, or national level. But it's the stated goal of people who talk about diversity, equity and inclusion.

Just yours. You specifically honed in on how white people were represented without even citing the correct figure, and without actually stopping to question whether your observation makes sense.

Even if I had misread the figure (I simply googled 'demographics pennsylvania', read the 'white alone' percent, and believed it corresponded to the same category of 'white' that Bryn Mawr reports), but I can hardly see how doing that makes no sense.

Rather than ask Toni for clarification, you made an assumption about her post,

Yes, I probably should have, but I feel Toni meant only to make a glib post that was somehow meant to dismiss my OP and was not really interested in following up. But, perhaps she will, especially if she wants people to understand what she meant by 'zero surprises'.

then responded based on that assumption, then fucked up that response anyway.

Of course I responded on that assumption, but the 'fuck up' was to not visit the page google returned its table from, not some monumental error in my thinking.

You were 'surprised' by the number you found, but perhaps had your inquisitiveness extended beyond the notion that white people are less represented in admissions or on campus than one might think, you'd have gotten far enough to realize the percentage of white students probably shouldn't actually be that surprising.

I was surprised because Toni's comment set up an expectation that Bryn Mawr was particularly white. It isn't.

Yes. I mean, you tried to map Bryn Mawr's admission statistics to the state of Pennsylvania's racial demographics when it doesn't exactly make sense to do so.

I'm simply applying the same thinking the progressive left does. I agree that there is no reason for Bryn Mawr or any college should reflect the demographic distribution of some underlying population.

But beyond that, you didn't even do it properly at a basic level.

I hastily quoted the 'white alone' result from google, yes. But I did not make an underlying mistake about the rest of my reasoning. I was applying the logic of the progressive left.
 
It's been...decades since I looked at anything Bryn Mawr related so I decided to pull up it's demographics. Zero surprises here:

https://www.brynmawr.edu/admissions/class-profile

Really? I found it quite surprising. For a state that is 81.6% white, its student body is only 52% white. And I searched high and low for its gender diversity plans, but they appear to be absent, despite Bryn Mawr's 100% women undergraduate class.

Bryn Mawr is a private college. If one troubled to look further on the link I provided, one could see that it draws from a number of states outside of Pennsylvania, that the vast majority of students receive significant financial aid and a number of other interesting facts.
 
I was surprised. I expected Bryn Mawr to be a lot whiter than it actually is.



This isn't my thinking. I don't think any particular college needs to reflect some underlying population at a local, state, or national level. But it's the stated goal of people who talk about diversity, equity and inclusion.

Just yours. You specifically honed in on how white people were represented without even citing the correct figure, and without actually stopping to question whether your observation makes sense.

Even if I had misread the figure (I simply googled 'demographics pennsylvania', read the 'white alone' percent, and believed it corresponded to the same category of 'white' that Bryn Mawr reports), but I can hardly see how doing that makes no sense.

Rather than ask Toni for clarification, you made an assumption about her post,

Yes, I probably should have, but I feel Toni meant only to make a glib post that was somehow meant to dismiss my OP and was not really interested in following up. But, perhaps she will, especially if she wants people to understand what she meant by 'zero surprises'.

then responded based on that assumption, then fucked up that response anyway.

Of course I responded on that assumption, but the 'fuck up' was to not visit the page google returned its table from, not some monumental error in my thinking.

You were 'surprised' by the number you found, but perhaps had your inquisitiveness extended beyond the notion that white people are less represented in admissions or on campus than one might think, you'd have gotten far enough to realize the percentage of white students probably shouldn't actually be that surprising.

I was surprised because Toni's comment set up an expectation that Bryn Mawr was particularly white. It isn't.

Yes. I mean, you tried to map Bryn Mawr's admission statistics to the state of Pennsylvania's racial demographics when it doesn't exactly make sense to do so.

I'm simply applying the same thinking the progressive left does. I agree that there is no reason for Bryn Mawr or any college should reflect the demographic distribution of some underlying population.

But beyond that, you didn't even do it properly at a basic level.

I hastily quoted the 'white alone' result from google, yes. But I did not make an underlying mistake about the rest of my reasoning. I was applying the logic of the progressive left.

No. You didn't.
 
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