Women's teams want equal pay

[Metaphor]

But there is a moral reason: women could get the same 'unearned' benefit that male players get if they're good enough to get into the men's teams.

I'm not good enough so I don't get any of the benefit.

 

[Metaphor]

In what instances has a woman tried out for a men's team and have it involve "law suits"?

 

[laughing dog]

But there is a moral reason: women could get the same 'unearned' benefit that male players get if they're good enough to get into the men's teams.

That is your moral reason. To me, that is a market reason.

 

[Toni]

In what instances has a woman tried out for a men's team and have it involve "law suits"?

https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/a...-football-teams-at-utah-schools/#.XSbJ2ehKjcs
https://www.foxnews.com/us/girls-football-lawsuit-to-gauge-interest-in-school-teams
http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-boys-sue-to-join-girls-high-school-dance-teams/489172271/
https://nypost.com/2016/12/21/nj-family-suing-archdiocese-so-their-daughter-can-play-hoops/
https://nypost.com/2017/02/02/girl-expelled-after-suing-school-to-be-on-boys-basketball-team/
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local...cle_4fbe1d7a-6083-50dc-983d-4fa16602c096.html

 

[Metaphor]

In what instances has a woman tried out for a men's team and have it involve "law suits"?

https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/a...-football-teams-at-utah-schools/#.XSbJ2ehKjcs
https://www.foxnews.com/us/girls-football-lawsuit-to-gauge-interest-in-school-teams
http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-boys-sue-to-join-girls-high-school-dance-teams/489172271/
https://nypost.com/2016/12/21/nj-family-suing-archdiocese-so-their-daughter-can-play-hoops/
https://nypost.com/2017/02/02/girl-expelled-after-suing-school-to-be-on-boys-basketball-team/
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local...cle_4fbe1d7a-6083-50dc-983d-4fa16602c096.html

The first two are the same story. From the article:

Utah does allow girls to play on boys' football teams, but Sam Gordon said it wouldn't be safe for her to play against the much-larger male players. Title IX, meanwhile, has a provision for separate teams in contact sports, Washburn said.

Note that Sam Gordon (the female footballer) didn't want that because of the 'much larger' male players. She did not sue to get on the boys team.

The third article is about boys being forbidden to join a female dance team, and is not relevant to whether girls can join boys teams.

The fourth and fifth article are about the same case, and that is the first article that involves a girl having no options for a female team and being denied trying out for the male team.

The last article is about a boy being unable to join a girl's field hockey team, and is not relevant to whether girls can join boys teams. Note that the reason he was not allowed to join is that mixed-teams are forbidden from playing all-girl teams. (I'm sure you'll decide that this is to protect men rather than women).

So, there is at least one instance of a girl suing to join the boys team and being unsuccessful, and at least one instance of boys being denied the same ecosystem that girls are entitled to.

I'm afraid that doesn't explain the revenue gap for professional female soccer players. I'm sorry for the boys and girls who can't play the sport they want because there isn't enough interest in the sport.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

So are we still discussing why the men's national soccer team, who didn't qualify for the World Cup finals, should arbitrarily have access to better training grounds than the women's national team who won the World Cup title?

Pardon me for not having memorized every single post.

I can see how that could be difficult to remember posts that had the most significance to the subject of a thread.

 

[Metaphor]

So are we still discussing why the men's national soccer team, who didn't qualify for the World Cup finals, should arbitrarily have access to better training grounds than the women's national team who won the World Cup title?

The World Cup and the Women's World Cup are two completely separate events. Here's an easy memory aid: one of them involves male players and generated billions in revenue. The other involves female players and generated much much less than a billion in revenue.

Do try to keep up.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

So are we still discussing why the men's national soccer team, who didn't qualify for the World Cup finals, should arbitrarily have access to better training grounds than the women's national team who won the World Cup title?

The World Cup and the Women's World Cup are two completely separate events.

You don't say.

Here's an easy memory aid: one of them involves male players and generated billions in revenue. The other involves female players and generated much much less than a billion in revenue.

What does this have to do with training grounds?

Also, how much money did the US Men's team make in the last World Cup Finals they failed to qualify for?

Do try to keep up.

While one can certainly justify a pay disparity based on the enormous gulf between the revenues from the Men's and Women's World Cups, one must wonder if the magnitude of the gap in the disparity between the award is "justified".

Don't get pissy because you are too lazy to read a thread.

 

[Metaphor]

Don't get pissy because you are too lazy to read a thread.

You're said we're still debating about access to training grounds, which nobody is talking about, and then you make a statement that deliberately conflates the two world cups.