Yet another means of discrimination backfires

[Loren Pechtel]

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Dropping the SAT Requirement Is a Luxury Belief

Disguising self-interest as virtue

robkhenderson.substack.com

Do without the SAT and the like and the actual result is even more of a shift towards wealthy students because they can spend more on looking like a good fit.

 

[Oleg]

Standardized testing is the great equalizer. Only those who want to perpetuate privilege would wish to abandon it.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

That is a blog post about a NY Times op-ed and a lengthy discussion about ABSVAB, which the writer took and did well. Fucking moron took the test to get out of class. I didn't take that test because everyone else was, so thay'd mean no class.

Regardless, this guy presents a modicum of data indicating rich people's children will succeed, therefore not including the SAT is dumb because that is the only way minorities can get into college... ???

Not a very well backed up claim. Certainly, it does become a question of whether a bonus metric might benefit minorities who have access to fewer metrics. But this guy didn't demonstrate that at all.

 

[Politesse]

So the guy admits he was a slacker and not a particularly good student, but thinks Columbia University should except him solely on the basis of a high test score?

 

[Shadowy Man]

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Dropping the SAT Requirement Is a Luxury Belief

Disguising self-interest as virtue

robkhenderson.substack.com

Do without the SAT and the like and the actual result is even more of a shift towards wealthy students because they can spend more on looking like a good fit.

It seems this article sites two relevant studies. One is about second graders and the other is correlated wealth with essay content. The rest of the article seems to be conjecture about how not using SATs would impact admissions based on these studies.

I’d be happy to have a sociologist explain to me how research is done in their field but it always seems to be that for any hypothesis we can find a study to support it.

 

[Oleg]

So the guy admits he was a slacker and not a particularly good student, but thinks Columbia University should except him solely on the basis of a high test score?

Standardized tests are highly correlated with IQ.

 

[laughing dog]

So the guy admits he was a slacker and not a particularly good student, but thinks Columbia University should except him solely on the basis of a high test score?

Standardized tests are highly correlated with IQ.

Academic success requires more than high intelligence - a good work ethic is needed.

 

[Oleg]

So the guy admits he was a slacker and not a particularly good student, but thinks Columbia University should except him solely on the basis of a high test score?

Standardized tests are highly correlated with IQ.

Academic success requires more than high intelligence - a good work ethic is needed.

Intelligence is a stronger predictor of academic performance than self-control, study finds

A longitudinal study published in the Journal of Youth and Adolescence attempted to replicate previous research finding that self-control was more important than intelligence in academic achievement. However, the present work found that intelligence was a significantly stronger predictor of...

www.psypost.org

 

[Politesse]

So the guy admits he was a slacker and not a particularly good student, but thinks Columbia University should except him solely on the basis of a high test score?

Standardized tests are highly correlated with IQ.

IQ is a dubious metric in and of itself, and being a successful student requires more than intelligence anyway.

 

[laughing dog]

So the guy admits he was a slacker and not a particularly good student, but thinks Columbia University should except him solely on the basis of a high test score?

Standardized tests are highly correlated with IQ.

Academic success requires more than high intelligence - a good work ethic is needed.

Intelligence is a stronger predictor of academic performance than self-control, study finds

A longitudinal study published in the Journal of Youth and Adolescence attempted to replicate previous research finding that self-control was more important than intelligence in academic achievement. However, the present work found that intelligence was a significantly stronger predictor of...

www.psypost.org

You realize that does not rebut my point. My point does not deny the role of intelligence in academic success.