Yet another shooting thread

[Loren Pechtel]

At least locally criminals shooting at criminals doesn't make the newspaper. Innocents getting killed does.

No, it doesn't; For the simple reason that "Innocents" is an entirely fictional category, whose population is zero.

You really, seriously need to reign in your false dichotomies.

People cannot be sensibly divided good from evil, or criminal from innocent.

Perhaps actions can (though even then, the utility of such categorizations is doubtful); But not people, because people always indulge in a wide variety of actions.

If you imagine that they can, that absurdity will inevitably lead to atrocity.

When your fundamental beliefs lead you to defend the killing of a person while they are asleep, you are in dire need of some better fundamental beliefs.

In this context it has a simple enough definition--those who don't habitually engage in criminal activity. Most murder victims have multiple felony raps. Those who do not lead a criminal lifestyle and do not associate with those who do very rarely get murdered. (And most of those are long standing domestic violence situations.)

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Only 109? I bet other cities did better than that. I mean, with those newly re-legalized bump stocks, 109 bullets takes less than a minute. And we’re talking about a whole 24 hour period!

Rifles are rarely used in crime--they're simply too big.

Tell that to Donald Trump.

Rarely. Not never.

You are at this moment armed with a weapon that's responsible for more murders than rifles.

 

[Elixir]

Rarely. Not never.

Yabut they rack up disproportionate fatalities.

 

[Gospel]

You are at this moment armed with a weapon that's responsible for more murders than rifles.

And it's also the most powerful tool for preventing murders, regrettably its effectiveness is hindered by human obstacles.