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Yet another war, this time with Iran

You are talking about a solid fuel missile. Solid fuel sits in the missile. It's ready to go anytime, if you detect an incoming attack you can launch it before the launcher gets fried. Thus it's second strike capable.

The Russian stuff is liquid fueled. All such propellants are either cryogenic or corrosive nightmares--you don't just store your missiles fueled. Which means if there's an unexpected incoming strike there's no way to get the missile off before it's destroyed. Thus it's only a first strike weapon.
We are not talking of Russian missiles. Both Agni V and Agni VI are solid fueled. I do not think Russia is that far behind in technology.
You responded to a post about liquid-fueled Russian missiles. I was pointing out the Russian missiles are intended for a first strike. I see no reason you brought up the Agni, I was simply showing it's not an example of the problem I was pointing out.
 
Divorce and second marriage is not the same thing as polygamy. That's standard in the west and nobody refers to that as having multiple wives
Islam has no problem with polygamy. Even Hinduism had no problem with polygamy. It was only that one of Nehru's brother-in-laws wanted to marry again. To stop him, Nehru brought Hindu Code Bill which made polygamy a crime. In some areas of India, polyandry is socially acceptable.
Note: The video has many repeats, so once you have seen a part, you may close it.

 
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The United States and Iran have reached a deal to end months of fighting, according to President Donald Trump and the leader of Pakistan, which has been mediating the talks.


“The Deal with the Islamic Republic of Iran is now complete. Congratulations to all!” Trump said Sunday on Truth Social, saying the deal would reopen the Strait of Hormuz and end the U.S. naval blockade on Iranian ports.
 
The United States and Iran have reached a deal to end months of fighting, according to President Donald Trump and the leader of Pakistan, which has been mediating the talks.


“The Deal with the Islamic Republic of Iran is now complete. Congratulations to all!” Trump said Sunday on Truth Social, saying the deal would reopen the Strait of Hormuz and end the U.S. naval blockade on Iranian ports.


Not much detail. But it sounds to me that if this holds things will be more or less back to where things started before Trump launched this war.

Iran has a more radical leadership, several thousand civilians of Iran are dead, they have fewer missiles. The US has lost about a dozen service-members and billion and billions of dollars in equipment including vastly depleting the inventory of advanced missiles.

Both sides are saying they won.

Iran knows that they can close the strait any time they want. No further need for the bomb.
 
The United States and Iran have reached a deal to end months of fighting, according to President Donald Trump and the leader of Pakistan, which has been mediating the talks.


“The Deal with the Islamic Republic of Iran is now complete. Congratulations to all!” Trump said Sunday on Truth Social, saying the deal would reopen the Strait of Hormuz and end the U.S. naval blockade on Iranian ports.


Not much detail. But it sounds to me that if this holds things will be more or less back to where things started before Trump launched this war.

Iran has a more radical leadership, several thousand civilians of Iran are dead, they have fewer missiles. The US has lost about a dozen service-members and billion and billions of dollars in equipment including vastly depleting the inventory of advanced missiles.

Both sides are saying they won.

Iran knows that they can close the strait any time they want. No further need for the bomb.
Iran has always known this. It is the source of their power.
 
The United States and Iran have reached a deal to end months of fighting, according to President Donald Trump and the leader of Pakistan, which has been mediating the talks.


“The Deal with the Islamic Republic of Iran is now complete. Congratulations to all!” Trump said Sunday on Truth Social, saying the deal would reopen the Strait of Hormuz and end the U.S. naval blockade on Iranian ports.


Not much detail. But it sounds to me that if this holds things will be more or less back to where things started before Trump launched this war.

Iran has a more radical leadership, several thousand civilians of Iran are dead, they have fewer missiles. The US has lost about a dozen service-members and billion and billions of dollars in equipment including vastly depleting the inventory of advanced missiles.

Both sides are saying they won.

Iran knows that they can close the strait any time they want. No further need for the bomb.
Iran has always known this. It is the source of their power.

Which the moron in the white house discounted.

The question is, will this whole war be for nothing except to embolden Iran to close the Strait again?
 
The United States and Iran have reached a deal to end months of fighting, according to President Donald Trump and the leader of Pakistan, which has been mediating the talks.


“The Deal with the Islamic Republic of Iran is now complete. Congratulations to all!” Trump said Sunday on Truth Social, saying the deal would reopen the Strait of Hormuz and end the U.S. naval blockade on Iranian ports.


Not much detail. But it sounds to me that if this holds things will be more or less back to where things started before Trump launched this war.

Iran has a more radical leadership, several thousand civilians of Iran are dead, they have fewer missiles. The US has lost about a dozen service-members and billion and billions of dollars in equipment including vastly depleting the inventory of advanced missiles.

Both sides are saying they won.

Iran knows that they can close the strait any time they want. No further need for the bomb.
Iran has always known this. It is the source of their power.

Which the moron in the white house discounted.

The question is, will this whole war be for nothing except to embolden Iran to close the Strait again?
The whole war was do that Trump and Hagsbreath could throw their weight and non-existent balls around.
 

I don't get what they're supposed to be negotiating about. Trump said that if Iran murders more of it's own citizens Trump will attack.

Ok, Trump did that.

He can just stop. He's already made his point. Trump can stop shooting rockets and drones without looking like a failure. Iran now knows that they can't just murder their own people with zero repurcussions.

Have I missed something?
 

I don't get what they're supposed to be negotiating about. Trump said that if Iran murders more of it's own citizens Trump will attack.

Ok, Trump did that.

He can just stop. He's already made his point. Trump can stop shooting rockets and drones without looking like a failure. Iran now knows that they can't just murder their own people with zero repurcussions.

Have I missed something?
Trump did this to end the Theocracy. That didn't happen, so the US is changing direction to do something something about the enriched uranium. Those sorts of agreements take years.

This agreement is at best a temporary ceasefire being reported as something it isn't. It almost certainly has no teeth.
 
Trump said that if Iran murders more of it's own citizens Trump will attack. Ok, Trump did that.
Iran now knows that they can't just murder their own people with zero repurcussions.
Have I missed something?
Yes, you did. The agitation in Iran was supported by US and its allies in NATO.
Iran will treat any threat to Khilafat or system in just the same way, Trump or no Trump.
Why does not Trump do that in Pakistan? They have been killing Baloch and Kashmiris civilians.
 
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Vice President JD Vance said Monday he expects the U.S.-Iran deal will open the Strait of Hormuz without tolls for the long term, but shippers say the arrangement to cross the sea lane remains unclear.

“Our expectation is that the strait is going to be opened in a toll-free way for the long term, and that’s the sort of thing that we’re going to figure out in these technical negotiations,” Vance told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” in an interview.
"Expectation"... as in that isn't even remotely resolved yet? That this agreement is just to reopen-ish the Strait of Hormuz?

What does the "agreement" say, "Iran and the USA promise not to needlessly destroy the global economy for the next 60 days" and it is written in crayon on the back of Denny's kids menu?
 
I don't think the excursion is over. Even if the US and Iran are acting in good faith, which is dubious, Netanyahu and Hezbollah cannot be counted on to hold steady. Further conflict there will break a ceasefire and escalate.
 


Didn't the righty's freak out about Obama giving Iran 400 million of their own money back to them? Now we're giving them 300 billion of our money???

Winning?
 
I thought the $300 billion was a misprint typo. We couldn't have possibly destroyed that much public infrastructure.

He says "funded by the Gulf Coast coalition". So Iran is going to rebuild... and Saudi Arabia is going to pay for it? I would have thought that some of Iran's oil revenue would be pumped into that fund. But VP Vance says the Arab states that don't like Iran will pay for it. $300 billion of it. Is the Gulf Coast Coalition aware of this?

ETA: The one thing that occurred to me is that maybe the Gulf Coast is "buying" Iran's nuclear weapon program.
 
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