bilby
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The answer IS 'Yes'. But that doesn't imply that you can invent anything. Reality is real, and conforms to its own rules and constraints.Thermodynamics and conservation applies to a bounded system with mass entering, inside, and leaving must be in balance.
In an ifinnite universe with no beginning or end conservation as defined in thermodynamics does not apply. The system boundary is infinite.
Religion, philosophy, or religion it all comes down to the same question, can something come from nothing. If the naswer is no then the unverse must have always been, If the answer is yes then you can invent anything. Particles from nothing or a god creating a universe.
That a rule you personally like turns out not to be universally applicable does not imply that anything goes.
The first law of thermodynamics turns out, like the second law, to be a statistical rule that applies to large areas and/or large numbers of particles or interactions.
When considering sufficiently small systems, local and temporary exceptions occur constantly.
That doesn't make the first law wrong, it just limits its scope to almost (but not quite) every situation. In much the same way that Einstein's demonstration that Newtons gravitational theory is only mostly right, but that doesn't imply that things sometimes fall upwards.