bilby
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YEC is not a small outlier group in the south. I even know engineers with graduate degrees who believe the universe is thousands of years old.I strongly suspect he was a "Young Earth Creationist" (YEC) which is a very small, select, and extremist outlier group of Christians with many beliefs at odds with most Christians.
In a phrase, natural selection. Not everyone has the ability to think forensically and weigh evidence. Emotional fulfillment is likely important to every one of us and many of us obtain part of our emotional fulfillment by acquiring new scientific knowledge, but not all. In our world you are maybe a great accountant or linguist but your knowledge of astronomy, particle theory or scientific advancement is pretty much nil.Do they still believe that all humans were Caucasians until God cursed Ham for sodomy of the heart and turned him Black? Or that dragons were dinosaurs but St George killed the last one? I went to an evangelical-run middle school for a year when I was a kid, and looking back on things now I'm shocked at some of the dangerous nonsense they were allowed to preach in the classroom. The rest of the Christian world got over this sort of thing almost a century ago, but evangelicals and their hardline Catholic allies seem unaware that human knowledge has left them behind in their century of choice (the 18th?)
It was obvious that his trying to prove evolution to be false was driven by his Christian belief but there are a hell of a lot of different Christian beliefs. I strongly suspect he was a "Young Earth Creationist" (YEC) which is a very small, select, and extremist outlier group of Christians with many beliefs at odds with most Christians.
Very true. Reading JC’s post made me realize what a judge once told me decades ago: people give lip service to freedom. What they really want is order. According to JC we live in a violent immoral generation. Seriously is that their impression of society? Murder and violent crime rates are down. They’ve been going down the more our society has become more open and accepting of such things as homosexuality. It’s pathetic what these fundy preachers are selling to their flock. Utterly pathetic.That is nothing more than your bigoted opinions. There is nothing evil about homosexuality. This is a diverse nation, and your religion and what you consider to be sin should not be used to make our laws.i am really sorry to tell you this and i am NOT trying to offend anyone, but homosexuality is NOT normal, God's intention for our body parts and relationships, and should not be accepted in society. we are a nation that is supposed to have morals. if not then chaos breaks out, and satan (100% sin) breaks out in full force of decadence. you see it now happening with our disrespectful, violent, immoral generation that has come up in societyAll across this nation, right winged Christians are working nonstop to ban same sex marriage. Your ignorance is amazing.
It’s worse than that. People want others to obey the authoritarian diktats by which they themselves live, because it boils their piss to think that others are free to do things that have been arbitrarily denied to them.Very true. Reading JC’s post made me realize what a judge once told me decades ago: people give lip service to freedom. What they really want is order. According to JC we live in a violent immoral generation. Seriously is that their impression of society? Murder and violent crime rates are down. They’ve been going down the more our society has become more open and accepting of such things as homosexuality. It’s pathetic what these fundy preachers are selling to their flock. Utterly pathetic.That is nothing more than your bigoted opinions. There is nothing evil about homosexuality. This is a diverse nation, and your religion and what you consider to be sin should not be used to make our laws.i am really sorry to tell you this and i am NOT trying to offend anyone, but homosexuality is NOT normal, God's intention for our body parts and relationships, and should not be accepted in society. we are a nation that is supposed to have morals. if not then chaos breaks out, and satan (100% sin) breaks out in full force of decadence. you see it now happening with our disrespectful, violent, immoral generation that has come up in societyAll across this nation, right winged Christians are working nonstop to ban same sex marriage. Your ignorance is amazing.
Amen brother!"You can be sure you've created God in your own image when he hates all the same people that you do."
Which do you think happens more often?That's true but those homophobe ideas are legitimately in their Bible. The more fundamentalist or traditional a sect is, the more homophobic it is.
BLM supporters loot stores.
Christians line up gays behind a firing squad.
One of these dumbasseries is a much bigger problem than the other. Which do you think it is?
Tom
Who said anything about excusing homophobia?Bleating about BLM or black crime rate does not excuse the murderous homophobia caused by Bible thumping preachers spreading hate.
I wonder how they square that with life beginning at conceptionReligious people have told me that before they were born they didn't exist
Lots of folks, particularly religious folk, may be guilty of equating death with dying. No thoughtful and informed person should fear death simply because we've all been dead before. Dying on the other hand can be uncomfortable and painful for the individual particularly and no thoughtful person could look forward to dying in that sense. It can be downright gruesome. Believers spin this into a cleansing ritual so they can move on to being happier ghosts. I suppose the fantasizing and pretending somehow lessens their level of fear.I fear various ways of dying; But I don't fear death itself, because I don't expect to experience it. My feeling about my eventual death is one of disappointment that I won't find out how it all pans out.
Yeah, which would be fine if they kept it to themselves.Lots of folks, particularly religious folk, may be guilty of equating death with dying. No thoughtful and informed person should fear death simply because we've all been dead before. Dying on the other hand can be uncomfortable and painful for the individual particularly and no thoughtful person could look forward to dying in that sense. It can be downright gruesome. Believers spin this into a cleansing ritual so they can move on to being happier ghosts. I suppose the fantasizing and pretending somehow lessens their level of fear.I fear various ways of dying; But I don't fear death itself, because I don't expect to experience it. My feeling about my eventual death is one of disappointment that I won't find out how it all pans out.
We are at a point where no one should have to fear even dying. Dying can be emotionally painful but should no longer have to be physically painful. Again, believers are a bit masochistic in that they equate pain with something good. Maybe they've simply accepted pain as unavoidable and it's a bit of the Stockholm Syndrome operating. But I still find their behavior primitive and barbaric.