Anonymous To Out GOP Pedophiles

[laughing dog]

"Anonymous" should expand to outing pedophiles in all political parties.

But is is a fact that it has been far right Republicans trying to label the Democratic Party as the party tolerant of pedophilia and grooming children. Such as the wretched Majorie Taylor Greene. So they deserve this campaign.

Meanwhile, for our Christian Nationalists. We have online, long lists of priests, ministers, and pastors who have been caught molesting and raping children. Telling us the problem with America's low morales is not enough religion and prayer in school. Apparently that does not work as promised.

The hypocrisy of the GOP on “family values” is so well documented that I suspect that this outing will have no noticeable effect on anyone who pays attention at all.

But outing politicians who are pedophiles regardless of party is a public service.

 

[Bronzeage]

I don't think we're going to see a lot of public information, collected in one place. Don't expect to see anyone outed, that hasn't already been charged in court.

 

[Jarhyn]

Okay, fuck Anonymous. If they have the info, they should be providing it immediately to the police. If they have evidence any politician is targeting and assaulting children they need to act, this isn't a partisan thing.

If they don't provide the info immediately to police, it is just "Anonymous" trying to look relevant. Pillow Man pulled this stuff too... though usually it would be everything in 50 days, nothing along the way, and then nothing comes out. Just HaroldCamping it.

*ETAish looks like Gospel beat me to the sentiment*

I would be surprised if they have anything that would be admissible.

1) Evidence requires a chain of custody--how did it get from where it was found to the courtroom. That would require whatever hacker got the information to testify--think they will?

2) Evidence needs to be shown to have been handled securely, not tampered with. This is a basically impossible burden for them. (And for basically anyone else who tries to play amateur detective.)

I agree with pretty much all of this.

Which is why it doesn't look like prosecuting perps. It looks like very partisan exposure of a particular flavor of GOP hypocrisy.

The number of TeaPartiers who either are or support douchebags is huge.
Pretending, as they do, that Democrats are the sexually immoral groomers is the hypocrisy being targeted.
Frankly, if I were a parent of a teenage daughter and had to choose between any of the last five Presidents to drive her to a school event, Biden and Obama would be okay and Trump the absolutely unthinkable last.
Nevertheless, Trump remains the GOP kingmaker and leader of the Christian Right.

Tom

"Christian"...

The antichrist is in town wrapped in a flag and carrying a(n upside down) cross right on schedule.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

"Anonymous" should expand to outing pedophiles in all political parties.

We are in rare agreement here. Why make it partisan?

Could be that the GOP is targeting transgendered people and Democrats as being sexual groomers of minors... and Anonymous, which isn't exactly a coherent group of people to begin with were targeting the GOP as such. A couple have passively done this here.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Reddit has had several lists of GOP predators over the years. Anonymous simply had to scrape Reddit for their hit list. The rest is presentation. Showmanship. A slide show with loud rock music. Who's their intended audience? I seem to remember a lot of such lists in the past few years.

What would be fun is a well made online website. Where one could search categories. Rapists. Child porn collectors. Child molesters. Etc.

 

[Elixir]

GOP is targeting transgendered people and Democrats as being sexual groomers of minors... and Anonymous, which isn't exactly a coherent group of people to begin with were targeting the GOP as such. A couple have passively done this here.

Funny how similar Anonymous and the GQP are at the core. Doing the same thing to different groups … main difference is the billions of dollars accessible to the GQP to push their line.
If I was in the business of tarring and feathering sexual predator hypocrites, I’d go for the low-hanging fruit, which is what Anonymous has done. You can almost always identify the Republican sexual predator hypocrites just by the volume of their complaints against the sexual behavior of others.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I don't think Anonymous is remotely similar to QAnon.

QAnon was some bizarre social media cult followed by extremely impressionable people. The cult was moved with cryptic messages that were interpreted by others who developed their own followers. It was neck deep in fiction, numerology, lies, and innuendo. There was nothing real to QAnon other than cult hope.

Anonymous is a non-collective of computer hackers who sometimes decide to make something a cause. In general, their influence is a bit smaller than they want it to be, but not having any actual leader or generalized purpose, they are limited in scope, purpose, etc... but what they do is real, just not that relevant.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Okay, fuck Anonymous. If they have the info, they should be providing it immediately to the police. If they have evidence any politician is targeting and assaulting children they need to act, this isn't a partisan thing.

If they don't provide the info immediately to police, it is just "Anonymous" trying to look relevant. Pillow Man pulled this stuff too... though usually it would be everything in 50 days, nothing along the way, and then nothing comes out. Just HaroldCamping it.

*ETAish looks like Gospel beat me to the sentiment*

I would be surprised if they have anything that would be admissible.

1) Evidence requires a chain of custody--how did it get from where it was found to the courtroom. That would require whatever hacker got the information to testify--think they will?

2) Evidence needs to be shown to have been handled securely, not tampered with. This is a basically impossible burden for them. (And for basically anyone else who tries to play amateur detective.)

I agree with pretty much all of this.

Which is why it doesn't look like prosecuting perps. It looks like very partisan exposure of a particular flavor of GOP hypocrisy.

The number of TeaPartiers who either are or support douchebags is huge.
Pretending, as they do, that Democrats are the sexually immoral groomers is the hypocrisy being targeted.
Frankly, if I were a parent of a teenage daughter and had to choose between any of the last five Presidents to drive her to a school event, Biden and Obama would be okay and Trump the absolutely unthinkable last.
Nevertheless, Trump remains the GOP kingmaker and leader of the Christian Right.

Tom

I was addressing why they didn't go to the police. I agree with you that it's about exposing their hypocrisy. And I agree with you about the ranking of who I would want around any hypothetical daughter of mine.

 

[TomC]

I was addressing why they didn't go to the police.

Who says that they didn't?

Why would they, if everyone(including the police) already knew that they were doing it?

You seem to be assuming that they found out stuff that nobody else, including the police, knew about. I sincerely doubt that is true. The cops probably already knew, but chose against following up, because:

Ya know.
Boys will be boys.
They love it when you grab em by the pussy.
Trump is trying to Make America Great Again! Don't want to interfere with that, unless you're a niggrer loving socialist who wants to take away our guns...

You aren't, are you?
Tom

 

[Derec]

Could be that the GOP is targeting transgendered people and Democrats as being sexual groomers of minors... and Anonymous, which isn't exactly a coherent group of people to begin with were targeting the GOP as such. A couple have passively done this here.

It's that kind of partisan tit-for-tat that really goes on my nerves. If somebody is a child molester, it should not matter whether they have an R or a D after their name.

 

[Derec]

Yeah sure ya betcha. That's a typically accurate statement.

It is. Your statements are equally typically inaccurate.

DSA has 92,000 members.
The Democratic Party has some 40,000,000 members.

Apples and oranges. DSA's number is actual card-carrying, dues-paying membership. Dem number is the number of those who registered Democratic for the purposes of voting in primaries. Anybody can do that, including Republicans living in safe blue districts who want a voice in the primaries.
Let's look at the US House instead. 5 DSA members in the Dem delegation of 213. That is 2.3%, 10x your estimate.

which constitute a fraction of Dem voters.

Any proportion of DSA/Dem would be a fraction. Did you mean you say "small fraction"?

"Many" indeed. Only in The World According to Derec. 0.23%. Less than one quarter of one percent. Probably far, far less. But still "many", right? I mean, that's like a football stadium and a half!

If you inflate your denominator you get ridiculous results. Typical.
5 card-carrying socialists in US House, 50 in various state legislatures. I'd say that is many.
And there are more who agree with many of their principles but are not members, of course.

At least we agree it's a ridiculous term.

Yes, at least. You are still wrong about who popularized it. The ridiculing phase came after the popularization in 2014 during the "woke" Ferguson insurrection.

 

[Derec]

Also a warning to all the adults that might choose to pursue sick relationships with minors: I know of at least two folks, then minors, now adults, who specifically targeted adults in blackmailing schemes over their grooming efforts.

I did not say that e.g. 30 year old sleeping with a 16 year old would be a good idea. I just said that it should not be a crime and that it certaily should not be wrongly and polemically called "pedophilia". It's also not necessarily a result of "grooming". FWIW, I do not think it's the best idea for a 30 year old to sleep with an 18 year old either.

Do with that what you will, but if you stick your dick in "younger than 18", I'll give you even money on "too young to consent" a d "too young to consent + still smart enough to engage you with blackmail"

Which kind of makes nonsense of the infantilizing idea that they are too young to consent, to be fair. Note also that you do not have to "stick your dick in younger than 18" to be a victim of blackmail.

 

[Derec]

16 is not old enough to be fucking anyone but another 16 year old, (or a 17 year old if they're doing it to piss off their parents).

Most places in the developed world disagree with you.

It's utterly unsurprising the high percentage of folks who espouse such views that 16 year olds are old enough to consent with 25+ are commonly pulled up on grooming charges.

My point is that this is not "pedophilia" and that it should not be illegal, not that I want to engage in such a relationship myself. I think high age of consent does more harm than good, i.e. a 21 year old with 17 year old girlfriend put on a "sex offender registry" for the rest of his life is cruel and unusual punishment. Also, how would you define "grooming"? What if the younger person is initiating? Still "grooming" by fiat?

P.S.: I think some on both far right and far left are not even satisfied with 18 as age of consent and would prefer it to be higher, like 21 in Bahrain. What would ideal age of consent be for you?

 

[Bronzeage]

Reddit has had several lists of GOP predators over the years. Anonymous simply had to scrape Reddit for their hit list. The rest is presentation. Showmanship. A slide show with loud rock music. Who's their intended audience? I seem to remember a lot of such lists in the past few years.

What would be fun is a well made online website. Where one could search categories. Rapists. Child porn collectors. Child molesters. Etc.

Every state I know of has a sexual predator website. The Louisiana site allows searches by zip code. There are differing requirements between the states, so it's not totally consistent. In Louisiana, any sex crime which involved a minor gets you on the list. This includes those who had sex with a 17 year old, and was at least 2 years older than their partner. Such a person will have a drivers license which has SEXUAL PREDATOR stamped in large red letters across the front, just like everyone else on the list.

It wouldn't be a lot of work to cross reference these websites with any other online list, or simply do a Google search on the names and see how many City Councilmen or county supervisors appear.

 

[Ford]

Anonymous is a non-collective of computer hackers who sometimes decide to make something a cause. In general, their influence is a bit smaller than they want it to be, but not having any actual leader or generalized purpose, they are limited in scope, purpose, etc... but what they do is real, just not that relevant.

Yeah, I'm kinda tired of the whole "Anonymous is about to expose (fill in the blank) here! Get ready!"

Then they come out with the video, and it goes...mostly nowhere.

 

[laughing dog]

If you inflate your denominator you get ridiculous results. Typical.
5 card-carrying socialists in US House, 50 in various state legislatures.

You do realize the "socialist" is pretty much a meaningless description in the US today. And that someone can belong to a group without adhering to all of the group's goals or principles. So what exactly is your point?

I'd say that is many.

According to this site - State legislators in the US - there are 7,833 state legislators in the US. 50 is less that 1%. The fact you think that is too many is truly telling.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Socialist. An epithet thown at a moderate by a right winged extremist.

 

[Elixir]

Let's look at the US House instead. 5 DSA members in the Dem delegation of 213. That is 2.3%, 10x your estimate.

More congratulations! Ya broke ONE PERCENT! (By cherry picking a data set)
Maybe you should revise your laughable assertion to “many many many democrats”.

My point stands.
Not many Dems are members of your boogeyman organization.

 

[Jarhyn]

Reddit has had several lists of GOP predators over the years. Anonymous simply had to scrape Reddit for their hit list. The rest is presentation. Showmanship. A slide show with loud rock music. Who's their intended audience? I seem to remember a lot of such lists in the past few years.

What would be fun is a well made online website. Where one could search categories. Rapists. Child porn collectors. Child molesters. Etc.

Every state I know of has a sexual predator website. The Louisiana site allows searches by zip code. There are differing requirements between the states, so it's not totally consistent. In Louisiana, any sex crime which involved a minor gets you on the list. This includes those who had sex with a 17 year old, and was at least 2 years older than their partner. Such a person will have a drivers license which has SEXUAL PREDATOR stamped in large red letters across the front, just like everyone else on the list.

It wouldn't be a lot of work to cross reference these websites with any other online list, or simply do a Google search on the names and see how many City Councilmen or county supervisors appear.

Personally, I think that such folks should be castrated, and have it put right there on their ID as to why, as is done, as you said. It shows such a stunning lack of judgement that it is extremely hard to justify their continued ability to reproduce.

 

[Bronzeage]

Reddit has had several lists of GOP predators over the years. Anonymous simply had to scrape Reddit for their hit list. The rest is presentation. Showmanship. A slide show with loud rock music. Who's their intended audience? I seem to remember a lot of such lists in the past few years.

What would be fun is a well made online website. Where one could search categories. Rapists. Child porn collectors. Child molesters. Etc.

Every state I know of has a sexual predator website. The Louisiana site allows searches by zip code. There are differing requirements between the states, so it's not totally consistent. In Louisiana, any sex crime which involved a minor gets you on the list. This includes those who had sex with a 17 year old, and was at least 2 years older than their partner. Such a person will have a drivers license which has SEXUAL PREDATOR stamped in large red letters across the front, just like everyone else on the list.

It wouldn't be a lot of work to cross reference these websites with any other online list, or simply do a Google search on the names and see how many City Councilmen or county supervisors appear.

Personally, I think that such folks should be castrated, and have it put right there on their ID as to why, as is done, as you said. It shows such a stunning lack of judgement that it is extremely hard to justify their continued ability to reproduce.

There are quite a few women on the list. I'm not sure what you would do to them.