How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[bilby]

WUT?
Did we win the war against Canada?

No, you lost. And the Whitehouse got burned for your trouble.

That’s a stretch. It were the redcoats!

I doubt it. Billy Butlin hadn't even been born yet. Though he is a good example of the Imperial soldier - he was born in South Africa, raised in England, and moved to Canada at the age of 12; During the Great War he was a bugler in the Canadian Army, fighting for the British Empire.

But seriously, neither the Canadians nor the British would, at the time, have made any distinction between the Canadian Army and the British Army, at least in terms of strategy and policy. They were all just soldiers of the King, whether they were in Europe, or in the wider empire, and if local forces were inadequate to handle a given task (such as repelling an invasion), they would have fully expected to be reinforced by forces from elsewhere in the empire, as indeed they were.

 

[aupmanyav]

They should have “talked”, right?

Ponder this: the USA has never attempted to subjugate its neighbors.

They were aliens there. They should not have been there.
And now, US is trying to subjugate Russia, cost to Ukraine is immaterial.

 

[barbos]

Ponder this: the USA has never attempted to subjugate its neighbors.

That is the most absurd lie I've seen in print this week, and not for lack of competition. The US has gone to war with all of its neighboring nations several times over, seizing what are now some of its wealthiest and most populated territories in a brutal war of conquest against the then newly liberated republic of Mexico, and to this day keeps hundreds of captive and subjugated nations as "reservations" under the watchful eye of the Department of the Interior, as though they were wild animals to manage. While also treating the US-Mexican border, our frontier with what is supposedly now an allied nation, as a heavily militarized zone of a kind most nations would reserve for their most dire enemies. We created an entire branch of government to "control" Mexicans and other Central/South American immigrants, another to "manage" Indians, and three to spy on other enemy nations all around the world and interfere in their affairs. Russia straight up copied our policies and laws as it was establishing the rules of "modern", post-Imperial indigenous policies over its northern reaches. At least the USSR pretended there was a voluntary element to joining their union; the US never bothered with any such pretense in its dealings with other nations.

US has a long way to go:

Infographic: Only 22 countries have never been invaded by Britain

This chart shows all the countries invaded by Britain throughout history.

www.statista.com

 

[bilby]

US is trying to subjugate Russia

I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.

 

[barbos]

Gas station masquerading as a country turned out to be 5 times bigger than neocons thought when they decided to destroy it.
Hitler in Hell must be like "Tell me about it, John"

Russia overtakes Japan to become the fourth largest economy in the world in PPP terms

The Russian economy has overtaken Japan to become the fourth largest in the world in PPP terms (purchase power parity), according to revised data ...

www.intellinews.com

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

They should have “talked”, right?

Ponder this: the USA has never attempted to subjugate its neighbors.

They were aliens there. They should not have been there.
And now, US is trying to subjugate Russia, cost to Ukraine is immaterial.

Subjugate Russia? Preventing Russia's imperialist land grab at Ukraine is subjugating Russia? What have you been smoking?

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Gas station masquerading as a country turned out to be 5 times bigger than neocons thought when they decided to destroy it.
Hitler in Hell must be like "Tell me about it, John"

Russia overtakes Japan to become the fourth largest economy in the world in PPP terms

The Russian economy has overtaken Japan to become the fourth largest in the world in PPP terms (purchase power parity), according to revised data ...

www.intellinews.com

Google for GDP

Russia -$2.240 Trillion USD
Japan -$4.232 Trillion USD
Indonesia - $1.319 Trillion USD
Brazil - $ 1.92 - Trillion USD
United States - $25.44 Trillion USD
California - $3.9 Trillion USD

 

[barbos]

Gas station masquerading as a country turned out to be 5 times bigger than neocons thought when they decided to destroy it.
Hitler in Hell must be like "Tell me about it, John"

Russia overtakes Japan to become the fourth largest economy in the world in PPP terms

The Russian economy has overtaken Japan to become the fourth largest in the world in PPP terms (purchase power parity), according to revised data ...

www.intellinews.com

Google for GDP

Russia -$2.240 Trillion USD
Japan -$4.232 Trillion USD
Indonesia - $1.319 Trillion USD
Brazil - $ 1.92 - Trillion USD
United States - $25.44 Trillion USD
California - $3.9 Trillion USD

Yes. that's what imbeciles in Biden administrations did, they googled.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Russia's GDP is a little bit more than Half of Japan's GDP. And a little more than half of California's GDP. I am down here in Texas. Texas GDP - $2.15 Trillion USD. Almost as much as Russia's GDP..

Rimshot!

 

[barbos]

Russia's GDP is a little bit more than Half of Japan's GDP. And a little more than half of California's GDP. I am down here in Texas. Texas GDP - $2.15 Trillion USD. Almost as much as Russia's GDP..

Rimshot!

WB disagrees, as well as reality.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

How is the Russia oligarchy system working out for Russia?

 

[Elixir]

US is trying to subjugate Russia

I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.

No shit. This guy is as far off the rails as babs, if not more so.
I do have to wonder if the Modi goobermint has gone down the Trump rabbit hole, selling lies like candy.

How is the Russia oligarchy system working out for Russia?

Swimmingly. If you're an oligarch, haven't done anything to raise Pootey's fears, and don't go near a lot of windows...

 

[barbos]

How is the Russia oligarchy system working out for Russia?

remarkably well since sanctions.

 

[ZiprHead]

Russia's GDP is a little bit more than Half of Japan's GDP. And a little more than half of California's GDP. I am down here in Texas. Texas GDP - $2.15 Trillion USD. Almost as much as Russia's GDP..

Rimshot!

WB disagrees, as well as reality.

GDP and PPP are two differant things.

Your PPP rate (from self reported data, btw) just means a certain predetermined set of goods and services are a little cheaper to purchase than they are in Japan.

Considering the crappy quality of goods produced in Russia, the best response is "duh".

 

[aupmanyav]

Preventing Russia's imperialist land grab at Ukraine is subjugating Russia?

It is in reply to NATO manoeuvres.

 

[ZiprHead]

You're not wrong. You're absolutely not wrong. However one of those two is making a decision and surrounding himself with younger people who have fresh ideas. "New Blood", you might say.

Yes, new blood with fresh ideas about how to start nuclear war.

Putin is the only one to have threatened to use nukes over the Ukraine war.

 

[aupmanyav]

No shit. This guy is as far off the rails as babs, if not more so.
I do have to wonder if the Modi government has gone down the Trump rabbit hole, selling lies like candy.

Modi has nothing to do with what I write. It is my opinion. Indian representatives will be attending the Swiss Ukraine conclave.
Of course, I am a Modi supporter.

 

[Elixir]

Modi has nothing to do with what I write. It is my opinion.

Ya sure ya betcha. Formed of pure objectivity, with no trace of the UBIQUITOUS PROPAGANDA TO WHICH YOU'VE BEEN EXPOSED FOR YEARS.
Fat fucking chance.

Of course, I am a Modi supporter.

Yes, of course. The fact that you reliably parrot his goobermint crap is just serendipity.

 

[Elixir]

Ask the Russians or the Chinese.

Why? Why “ask” imperialist warmongers and expansionists about the “right thing” to do? We don’t want to please expansionist warmongers and dictators. They lie, anyhow. Why would you ask them ANYTHING? Oh right -Modi sez.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

US is trying to subjugate Russia

I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.

No shit. This guy is as far off the rails as babs, if not more so.
I do have to wonder if the Modi goobermint has gone down the Trump rabbit hole, selling lies like candy.

How is the Russia oligarchy system working out for Russia?

Swimmingly. If you're an oligarch, haven't done anything to raise Pootey's fears, and don't go near a lot of windows...

Apparently many Russia Oligarchs have settled in London.