Are we no better than Dogs?

[Ramaraksha]

Our Pets get the good life, well, most of them do. Fed, Protected, Sheltered, Cared for, all for Free. And also kept in a nice bubble, away from facing the harshness of life. If they get injured or sick, their caring owners take them to the vet to get proper care. We see pet food commercials daily, promising better, more nutritious food for them. When dogs are taken out for a walk, their owners keep them on a leash, making sure they come to no danger like running in front of a speeding car!
While their wild brothers and Wolves get no such easy life - they must hunt almost daily for food, deal with injuries, sickness on their own. Be vary of predators and other dangers that await them in the Real World! Any injury like a broken leg is a certain death sentence! Hunting is not easy, especially in winter, they may go several days without food!
Do our pets wonder what is going on? Why is this nice being feeding us delicious food daily, we get to live in a huge mansion, we are protected, they genuinely love us, care for us and it is ALL Free! Most of us doze off all day when this nice being goes out in the morning doing God-knows-what & comes back late in the day. Then we get to play with them, on weekends a walk to the park or the beach, more play!
Life is Good!
But they do not wonder because they lack the sheer brain capacity to do so, but WE do have the brain capacity, but do we wonder? Ask Questions?!

Billions hope to get to Heaven - especially followers of Christianity & Islam - where a nice being will keep them fed, protected, sheltered, cared for, and keep them in a bubble far, far away from facing the harsh realities of the Real World that we live in.
No one mentions any work being done, no one even asks. In fact, what work would an almighty being that is capable of creating this huge universe, billions of stars, planets, and life forms might have for us to do? None!
And that is why no one asks!
We get to doze off eternity!
But one would think that with all our intelligence, education & armed with all this knowledge, we would be asking why? How does this make any sense? I am sure if the Dog had any intelligence it would be asking, but at least we know the dog is providing some service, companionship, love, helping the blind and good guard duty
What benefit do WE provide God?

Here we see the similarities - Our life on Earth vs life in Heaven as promised by religions is similar to the Life that Wild Dogs, animals live vs life as a Pet, Farm animals

Hinduism provides the answer. God does not need to create an entire world for freeloaders running away from Real Life, sitting around shamelessly sponging off him for eternity! There is an easier, simpler way - Occam's Razor!
Resurrected/Reborn/Reincarnated as our Pets, Sheep, Pigs, they get their Heaven! The easy lazy life is theirs!
Thru Real Life, God has taught us that nothing in this world is Free, Given nor Easy
Heaven is a total contradiction of the above, God's Laws! And yet billions drool over cheap & easy promises of Heaven
Unfortunately for them, there is a price to pay for every choice, foolish or otherwise. The price of Heaven is the life of a lower life form, such as a Dog! But let us understand that God is NOT punishing them - of their OWN free will, disregarding Life's lessons, the laws of God & nature, they choose to become lower life forms.

It is amazing to think that even the most intelligent of us, best of minds, are this easily brainwashed by religion! All that intelligence, education, knowledge and then overcome by greed, cheap religious promises and to end up as a Dog! I say, serves them right

 

[Elixir]

It is amazing to think that even the most intelligent of us, best of minds, are this easily brainwashed by religion! All that intelligence, education, knowledge and then overcome by greed, cheap religious promises and to end up as a Dog! I say, serves them right

Yes, and well earned.
Meanwhile, dogs ask “Are we no better than people?”

 

[southernhybrid]

First of all, I think dogs are much better than people, but not all dogs are treated well by their humans. It breaks my heart when I see skinny stray dogs running around and one of my dogs was a rescue from the city shelter while the other one was a rescue found in the street with no collar and no chip. Now, they are loved and cared for like they deserve. Dogs evolved to be our companions, which anyone who has read half of the books about dogs that I have read, realizes. Dogs do think and have rather complex minds, even if they are more like children than adults. Research has been done that included training some dogs to enter an MRI tunnel to have their brains examined. Of course the dogs had the right to refuse if they didn't want the MRI done.

Dogs give us unconditional love. Dogs don't judge us based on our beliefs or politics. Dogs are forgiving while humans don't always have those traits. Dogs will often literally protect us with their lives. I had a chihuahua who did that for me once. At the least, they let us know if someone is trying to enter the house, so dogs do a lot for us. Plus there are working dogs who seem happy to do the jobs they have been trained for, so dogs are wonderful in so many ways. There are police dogs, sled dogs, dogs that herd cattle, emotional support and guide dogs etc.

Of course, as an atheist I don't believe in an afterlife, but if you have had a pet dog, you are probably familiar with the "Rainbow Bridge", a belief that our pets cross a bridge when they die and enter into an afterlife were we will join them when we die. If there was a heaven, it would be hell without our dogs or cats etc. And don't forget that dog spelled backwards is god.

 

[ideologyhunter]

A dog with a good home is a perfectly happy being -- which humans, after age 3 or so, aren't. Dogs give us the opportunity to create perfect happiness for our fellow creatures. And without religious folderol, too, which is a plus. If there's such a thing as a purely materialist intellect, it's that of the dogs. They simply enjoy the reality that's right in front of them. If you try to tell a dog about God/Jesus/angels etc., it will yawn, take a nap, or lick its crotch. Can we not learn from the dogs?
Gotta go -- Jehovah's Witness at the door.

 

[southernhybrid]

 

[Elixir]

Can we not learn from the dogs?

Let me know when you learn how to lick your crotch.

 

[bilby]

Why would God want a bunch of humans in heaven at all?

Well, cattle spend the first part of their existence out on open range, fending for themselves, seeking out whatever food they can find. But then they are moved to a more comfortable life, with the best quality food supplied without effort on their part.

What if heaven is just a feedlot?

The Gods don't want their humans to be tough and stringy, they want them fat and relaxed.

 

[Ramaraksha]

First of all, I think dogs are much better than people, but not all dogs are treated well by their humans. It breaks my heart when I see skinny stray dogs running around and one of my dogs was a rescue from the city shelter while the other one was a rescue found in the street with no collar and no chip. Now, they are loved and cared for like they deserve. Dogs evolved to be our companions, which anyone who has read half of the books about dogs that I have read, realizes. Dogs do think and have rather complex minds, even if they are more like children than adults. Research has been done that included training some dogs to enter an MRI tunnel to have their brains examined. Of course the dogs had the right to refuse if they didn't want the MRI done.

Dogs give us unconditional love. Dogs don't judge us based on our beliefs or politics. Dogs are forgiving while humans don't always have those traits. Dogs will often literally protect us with their lives. I had a chihuahua who did that for me once. At the least, they let us know if someone is trying to enter the house, so dogs do a lot for us. Plus there are working dogs who seem happy to do the jobs they have been trained for, so dogs are wonderful in so many ways. There are police dogs, sled dogs, dogs that herd cattle, emotional support and guide dogs etc.

Of course, as an atheist I don't believe in an afterlife, but if you have had a pet dog, you are probably familiar with the "Rainbow Bridge", a belief that our pets cross a bridge when they die and enter into an afterlife were we will join them when we die. If there was a heaven, it would be hell without our dogs or cats etc. And don't forget that dog spelled backwards is god.

Nature or God, has taught us thru life, REAL LIFE, that nothing is free. Nothing is Given, Life is not Easy
Once we are Adults - we MUST leave the nest (the story of Adam), learn to stand on our own two feet, EARN a living, PAY for food, a rood over our heads & face the world as Adults
Not just us but such laws apply to ALL creatures on this earth!
And we have it easy - most animals get maybe a year at most - WE get 18-22 or more to live at home - some rich kids never grow up!
And it seems we give in to greed - we fail to heed the lessons of nature
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A Dog's life as a pet is unnatural - it is not the way nature or God intended them to live
ALL life forms were meant to live on their own - stand on their own two feet
There are of course parasites - ticks, mosquitoes and of course prostitutes, yes-men, sycophants, cronies, gigolos - live sponging off others
Heaven has reduced even the best of minds down to such a disgusting level and amazingly they have no clue!

 

[Ramaraksha]

Why would God want a bunch of humans in heaven at all?

Well, cattle spend the first part of their existence out on open range, fending for themselves, seeking out whatever food they can find. But then they are moved to a more comfortable life, with the best quality food supplied without effort on their part.

What if heaven is just a feedlot?

The Gods don't want their humans to be tough and stringy, they want them fat and relaxed.

Occam's Razor - why create a magic world where people live as animals or just sit around sponging off God when there is a simpler, easier way?
Simple - they are reborn as Cows or Sheep or Pets - THEN get the easy good life they chose of their OWN free will

 

[Ramaraksha]

A dog with a good home is a perfectly happy being -- which humans, after age 3 or so, aren't. Dogs give us the opportunity to create perfect happiness for our fellow creatures. And without religious folderol, too, which is a plus. If there's such a thing as a purely materialist intellect, it's that of the dogs. They simply enjoy the reality that's right in front of them. If you try to tell a dog about God/Jesus/angels etc., it will yawn, take a nap, or lick its crotch. Can we not learn from the dogs?
Gotta go -- Jehovah's Witness at the door.

"which humans, after age 3 or so, aren't" yes and the concept of Heaven says you can have that Dog's life
What the followers didn't realize is that such a life comes with a cost - the cost of giving up human life and ending up as a Dog!
Again can't believe that these are some brilliant minds drooling over cheap promises of Heaven!

 

[Ramaraksha]

Can we not learn from the dogs?

Let me know when you learn how to lick your crotch.

Heaven talks of self-gratification - I guess this is what they meant

 

[bilby]

Occam's Razor - why create a magic world where people live as animals or just sit around sponging off God when there is a simpler, easier way?
Simple - they are reborn as Cows or Sheep or Pets - THEN get the easy good life they chose of their OWN free will

Simpler still - they are just dead. Their bodies decay and are recycled as nutrients for other life, or are incinerated and sit in a nice urn for a while before becoming nutrients for other life.

 

[Ramaraksha]

Occam's Razor - why create a magic world where people live as animals or just sit around sponging off God when there is a simpler, easier way?
Simple - they are reborn as Cows or Sheep or Pets - THEN get the easy good life they chose of their OWN free will

Simpler still - they are just dead. Their bodies decay and are recycled as nutrients for other life, or are incinerated and sit in a nice urn for a while before becoming nutrients for other life.

We know that but the old saying, "you can cut a diamond only with another diamond"
Basically people give in to religious promises - that by itself is not wrong- plenty of people believe in all sorts of weird things - but religions do not stop there - they preach this carrot of Heaven & then push hatred against those who do not believe
There was much blood shed in the past in the name of religion, going on even today
The media is basically Christian/Islamic - their articles are biased towards these religions
We need to get rid of this hate & the only way to do so is to make them realize that one can't live in fantasies - their God is no Sugar Daddy, they can't live the easy good life unless they are prepared to pay a price

 

[pood]

I worked in the media for years. Most were atheists/hedonists.

 

[pood]

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A Dog's life as a pet is unnatural - it is not the way nature or God intended them to live

“God” or nature did not “intend” anything with dogs. Dogs and humans are co-evolved in a mutually beneficial relationship.

 

[Elixir]

Love it when people profess to deliver god’s intent. I always believe people who do that. Shame how they usually end up in confinement.
Some day maybe god will tell me what to tell y’all so I can do it too.

 

[Ramaraksha]

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A Dog's life as a pet is unnatural - it is not the way nature or God intended them to live

“God” or nature did not “intend” anything with dogs. Dogs and humans are co-evolved in a mutually beneficial relationship.

ALL creatures on earth are supposed to stand on their own two legs - that is what nature or God tells us. The Dog did not intend to be our pet - when humans lived in caves there was danger from wild animals and Dogs served as protectors, warning sentries in exchange for food
As a Pet - its life is unnatural
Heaven is unnatural - billions sitting around doing nothing, shamelessly sponging off God
But such a unnatural life is what billions want & they shall have it, but their Heaven is right here on earth

 

[Ramaraksha]

Love it when people profess to deliver god’s intent. I always believe people who do that. Shame how they usually end up in confinement.
Some day maybe god will tell me what to tell y’all so I can do it too.

Amazing how easily anyone questioning religion is threatened - in the past brutal killing, mass murders was the response
I guess we have to be thankful that now guys are reduced to using threats
We are curious creatures - we wonder, ask questions - but religions making cheap promises with zero evidence don't like such questions
People who run Ponzi-schemes don't like questions
Criminals don't like to be questioned either
Hence the threats, like living in Russia or North Korea - amazing how low religious people can go
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God created this world, this earth, gave you this life
Has he not made rules for ALL creatures on earth to follow? That we spend childhood - fed, protected, sheltered, cared for & kept in a safe bubble away from the horrors of life by our parents - for only a little while
THEN we HAVE to grow up, move out of the Nest (the story of Adam), get a job, EARN a living, learn to stand on our own two feet, face the world on our own
Not just us but ALL living creatures obey these laws! And animals have it much harder than us - they get at best a year before their parents kick them out of the nest into a much harsher world than we enter
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Heaven contradicts these laws that God made - it says we can run away from REAL LIFE and hide - a nanny Sugar Daddy God will be happy to keep us helpless children for eternity! Cowardice will be rewarded!
Amazing to see how many billions think they get to just sit and sponge off God for eternity!
Heaven is a fantasy, nothing more. It is not real, only this world is real
But such is the life that religious people want - an easy lazy life where some being will feed, protect, shelter, care for them and keep them away from the big bad Real world!
Well, such a life is the life of a Dog, a pet - Sheep, Pig
And there are more lives like that - Mosquitoes, ticks live the good life sucking the blood from others
Did you know that ants keep "cows"? They are called aphids
Enjoy Heaven!

 

[Ramaraksha]

I worked in the media for years. Most were atheists/hedonists.

I am sorry but I can't seem to get ANY of my views published - ANYWHERE!
Heaven is simply a metaphor for the womb, childhood
And I ask why is Heaven so diff from REAL LIFE? how come no one asks about the welfare of their LIVING loved ones?
What happens to Unbelievers? Are we to be the Jews in a Nazi afterworld?
Why do African-Americans who want to live in an INCLUSIVE world embrace a religion that says Heaven is EXCLUSIVE, SEGREGATED by religion?
I have more questions which I believe should be published, asked but can't get thru
If you could let me know which media would welcome such questions - that would be great

 

[pood]

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A Dog's life as a pet is unnatural - it is not the way nature or God intended them to live

“God” or nature did not “intend” anything with dogs. Dogs and humans are co-evolved in a mutually beneficial relationship.

ALL creatures on earth are supposed to stand on their own two legs - that is what nature or God tells us.

No, it does not tell us that. Nature yields descriptive, and not normative, propositions. You are confusing the two.

The Dog did not intend to be our pet - when humans lived in caves there was danger from wild animals and Dogs served as protectors, warning sentries in exchange for food

Great. So what? As I said, it’s a co-evolved mutually beneficial relationship. There are any number of such relationships in the world.

As a Pet - its life is unnatural

If it’s part of nature, it’s natural. And everything is part of nature. The pets I have had certainly seemed satisfied with their “unnatural” life.