Are we no better than Dogs?

[pood]

I've heard that tribes in the deep Amazon refer to us civilized outsiders as 'termite people'.
(Saw it in movies. Don't know how true it is)

We build pretty big mounds, just look at New York or Hong Kong...

Except that the average termite mound relative to the size of the termites is far taller than the average skyscraper is to humans. If termites were scaled up to human size, their termite mounds would be five times taller than the world’s tallest skyscraper for humans.

 

[DBT]

Just wait till we start building mounds on the Moon and Mars.

 

[pood]

Just wait till we start building mounds on the Moon and Mars.

Well, we are talking about building a space elevator, and that would dwarf anything ever built in both absolute and relative terms.

 

[pood]

A parasite would be someone who lives off the fruits of labors of others - that is not how the vast majority of life forms live

That is exactly how the vast majority of life forms live, as has been explained to you, if you include viruses. Some question whether viruses are strictly life forms or just some kind of “biological agent.” But even if you exclude viruses, about fifty percent of non-viruses are parasites.

 

[Ramaraksha]

It’s obvious from this post you are not interested in learning anything or haveing a good-faith exchange of ideas.

Shouldn't your words apply to you also?
Some humbleness - not get snarky, not resort to personal insults
you thought I don't read the news? Really? How about putting some thought into it?

Again, dogs were not “meant” to do anything. They just happened to cp-evolve with us to form a symbiotic relationship. If things had gone a little differently, we would not have so co-evolved. There are plenary of symbiotic relationships in nature.

WE did NOTHING to our “best friend.” By evolutionary chance alone, we co-evolved to form a symbiotic relationship.

And more than once I have said that relationship has changed - from living on its own - how feral dogs live now - to living in our homes as pets - helpless dependents - unfortunately victims of our abuse
Amazingly even dog lovers do not seem to realize how abusive we are to them
Bull dogs are considered cute looking - their flat faces result in breathing problems - that is why it looks like they are gasping for
air all the time - well, actually they are
They take it without complaint, what can they do anyway?
They didn't ask for this - they didn't ask to be our pets

 

[pood]

It’s obvious from this post you are not interested in learning anything or haveing a good-faith exchange of ideas.

Shouldn't your words apply to you also?
Some humbleness - not get snarky, not resort to personal insults
you thought I don't read the news? Really? How about putting some thought into it?

Again, dogs were not “meant” to do anything. They just happened to cp-evolve with us to form a symbiotic relationship. If things had gone a little differently, we would not have so co-evolved. There are plenary of symbiotic relationships in nature.

WE did NOTHING to our “best friend.” By evolutionary chance alone, we co-evolved to form a symbiotic relationship.

And more than once I have said that relationship has changed - from living on its own - how feral dogs live now - to living in our homes as pets - helpless dependents - unfortunately victims of our abuse

Feral dogs are dogs that WERE in a symbiotic relationship with their human partners, but their humans abandoned them. Bad humans! Such dogs do not fare well. Other dogs will not take care of them. You said you worked in a shelter. You must know that the dogs there were ABANDONED by humans and need a new home with HUMANS.

Amazingly even dog lovers do not seem to realize how abusive we are to them

Absolute crap, for reasons that I and others have explained to you numerous times. Like the theists you decry, you are willfully ignorant.

Bull dogs are considered cute looking - their flat faces result in breathing problems - that is why it looks like they are gasping for
air all the time - well, actually they are

NO THEY ARE NOT! Some breeds of dogs have this problem, but the vast majority do not.

They take it without complaint, what can they do anyway?
They didn't ask for this - they didn't ask to be our pets

Yes, they did. We co-evolved in a symbiotic relationship.

Did you ever look up the meaning of symbiotic?

 

[pood]

Brachycephalic dogs, whose flat faces give them trouble breeding, are a tiny minority of all dogs breeds. Human should stop breeding for that trait.

 

[bilby]

I've heard that tribes in the deep Amazon refer to us civilized outsiders as 'termite people'.
(Saw it in movies. Don't know how true it is)

We build pretty big mounds, just look at New York or Hong Kong...

Wait till you see the size of the Echidnas and Aardvarks...

 

[bilby]

Some humbleness

The word is "humility".

You're welcome.

 

[Ramaraksha]

Brachycephalic dogs, whose flat faces give them trouble breeding, are a tiny minority of all dogs breeds. Human should stop breeding for that trait.

Greyhounds and other dogs used in racing - shot to death or dumped into shelters if they break a leg or can no longer race
Aggressive Pit Bulls in the news so many times for killing children, the elderly
Heard about an elderly couple out walking and were set upon a bunch of pit bulls
The woman died, the last I heard the old man was struggling for his life
He might have died, if not by his injuries but with a broken heart

 

[DBT]

I've heard that tribes in the deep Amazon refer to us civilized outsiders as 'termite people'.
(Saw it in movies. Don't know how true it is)

We build pretty big mounds, just look at New York or Hong Kong...

Wait till you see the size of the Echidnas and Aardvarks...

Aardvarks are the best, had things been different, Aardvarks would Rule.

 

[bilby]

I've heard that tribes in the deep Amazon refer to us civilized outsiders as 'termite people'.
(Saw it in movies. Don't know how true it is)

We build pretty big mounds, just look at New York or Hong Kong...

Wait till you see the size of the Echidnas and Aardvarks...

Aardvarks are the best, had things been different, Aardvarks would Rule.

I don't think giant ones would be so great, bit it is true what they say - A little aardvark never hurt anybody.

 

[pood]

It’s obvious from this post you are not interested in learning anything or haveing a good-faith exchange of ideas.

Shouldn't your words apply to you also?
Some humbleness - not get snarky, not resort to personal insults

I am not personally insulting you. I am critiquing your erroneous ideas.

you thought I don't read the news? Really? How about putting some thought into it?

I asked you for evidence that journalists lob softball questions at theists. So far, you have provided none. You have simply CLAIMED this to be the case.

Again, dogs were not “meant” to do anything. They just happened to cp-evolve with us to form a symbiotic relationship. If things had gone a little differently, we would not have so co-evolved. There are plenary of symbiotic relationships in nature.

WE did NOTHING to our “best friend.” By evolutionary chance alone, we co-evolved to form a symbiotic relationship.

And more than once I have said that relationship has changed - from living on its own - how feral dogs live now - to living in our homes as pets - helpless dependents - unfortunately victims of our abuse

It is just stunning how obtuse you are, and how you cling to this fantasy of yours. Feral dogs are dogs that were in a symbiotic relationship with humans but were abandoned by them. They are not wild dogs or wolves. Feral dogs live a hardscrabble, often lethal existence. Is THIS what you want for dogs? Are you advocating that all humans abandon their pets to let then scrabble around in trash cans??

The relationship changed thousands of years ago, gradually, as dogs and humans co-evolved and became partners. How hard is this for you to understand? Modern dogs are not victims of our abuse. They are recipients of our love, and they of ours.

Amazingly even dog lovers do not seem to realize how abusive we are to them

The abuse allegation is a complete fabrication.

Bull dogs are considered cute looking - their flat faces result in breathing problems - that is why it looks like they are gasping for
air all the time - well, actually they are

This is WRONG, as I hae already explained and which you ignore. A small minority of bred dogs are like that. Humans should stop breeding those dogs.

They take it without complaint, what can they do anyway?
They didn't ask for this - they didn't ask to be our pets

You simply don’t understand evolution or symbiosis. At least three times I have asked you to look up “symbiotic relationship” and you have not done so, have you? Your argument that dogs were “intended” to be wild or that the dog/human relationship is somehow “unnatural” is EXACTLY the way that theists argue. It is a perfect equivalent to the theistic argument that gay relationships are “unnatural” and it was “intended” that sex is only for men and women and then only to produce offspring. So while attacking theists you have the exact same mentality that they do.

 

[pood]

Human-canine bond.

 

[laughing dog]

I think the OP shows the answer to its question us a resounding no.

 

[unapologetic]

cronies who surround the rich & powerful,

Are not the 'rich and powerful' (like trump) who surround themselves with such yes-men, also parasites?

an example as how humans
have created religions and Heavens where they are helpless dependents sponging off of God

No. They are victims, of cults. The religions/cults are sponging off their followers. Not the other way around.
If you think anyone sponges off a god, you have fallen for the scam.
Sheeple may want to sponge off a supernatural father figure, but they are being played.

 

[Elixir]

It’s obvious from this post you are not interested in learning anything or haveing a good-faith exchange of ideas.

That has been obvious from day one.
Loquacity masquerading as insight.

 

[steve_bank]

A major difference between dogs and humans is dogs have to be trained by humans to do studio tricks.

Us humans do stupid tricks all on our own. A clear example of the superiority of humans.

 

[Ramaraksha]

cronies who surround the rich & powerful,

Are not the 'rich and powerful' (like trump) who surround themselves with such yes-men, also parasites?

Yes, his poodles, I believe they are called

an example as how humans
have created religions and Heavens where they are helpless dependents sponging off of God

No. They are victims, of cults. The religions/cults are sponging off their followers. Not the other way around.
If you think anyone sponges off a god, you have fallen for the scam.
Sheeple may want to sponge off a supernatural father figure, but they are being played.

We are talking about bright, educated people not asking any questions
Questions like What do we DO in Heaven? How do we add value to Heaven? What goes on in a day?
The answer is obvious - the religious leaders have no clue!
But that is how fantasies work - they fall apart once asked for details
Their not asking any questions tells me that they assume God is a Sugar Daddy and will keep them in comfort in Heaven

 

[Elixir]

Most of them play along knowing it’s bs but keenly aware of the importance of conformity to their own well being.
Many will cite their own personalized version of Pascal’s wager to rationalize their pretense, as if it was an original novel concept.