Are we now in full blown fascist totalitarianism?

[laughing dog]

So was wondering if anyone could help me out here. We have clear evidence right in front of our eyes that we have people in power willing to send innocent people to slavery and torture for the sole purpose of creating a propaganda reel and create terror, for the sole purpose of entrenching their power. Even if you are one of the sickos that gets hard watching the videos, isn't there any kind of "oh shit" realization that these people have absolutely no limits on what they will do when it benefits them? Even if you enjoy seeing immigrants being tortured, why doesn't the thought cross the mind that supporting this kind of power is like playing Russian Roulette? It's all fun until the bullet blows through your brain?

I just don't see how delusion is enough to explain it away. They know exactly what is happening (which is why they jerk off to the video). Maybe some sort of psychiatric condition to believe they could never be a target? Maybe a willingness to collaborate and therefore be useful? A delusion that the guy in power will always target other people no matter what?

From a self preservation standpoint, it just doesn't make sense. Maybe they are being led by their sadistic dicks and are so nihilistic they couldn't give two shits if humans go extinct? Any psychologists that can chime in?

For all of you dramacrats going on about this, what we at least no longer have is a border problem anymore. As Trump himself said at his inaugural address, congress did not need to pass any more laws. All our country needed was a new president. The illegals flooding through the gates during Biden's term are thinking twice about doing it now. Trump has resolved at least one of his campaign promises. He has fixed the border already.

You can call all this cruel and bad and you may even be right. After all, no one likes to see criminals get punished. It is unsettling for someone so dignified as yourself to see. But this punishment is the exact deterrence preventing more crime over the border. Illegals just aren't coming across anymore and for good reason.

Conflating the deportation of legal immigrants and legal visitors with illegal immigration is, at a minimum, unhelpful.

Defending illegal behavior by the administration is pretty rich coming from a whiner of “lawfare”.

 

[Axulus]

The POTUS does not have Constitutional authority to regulate how states run their elections.

Since when did lack of constitutional authority stop him from trying?

It hasn’t. But if SCOTUS doesn’t stop that, we can kiss democracy goodbye.

I think they will rule against it but my biggest fear is the administration's willingness to move in the direction of defying the courts, and how that will play out, if so.

 

[Axulus]

Deportation Barbie transitioned into torture barbie, shows off US slave camp in the most depraved manner possible. The Nazis created propaganda to falsely show their camps had humane conditions, while the US shows how awful they are:



Vs

Theresienstadt (1944 film) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Axulus]

And, remember, he wants to send US citizens there next:

Truth Social

Truth Social is America's "Big Tent" social media platform that encourages an open, free, and honest global conversation without discriminating on the basis of political ideology.

truthsocial.com

 

[laughing dog]

Deportation Barbie transitioned into torture barbie, shows off US slave camp in the most depraved manner possible. The Nazis created propaganda to falsely show their camps had humane conditions, while the US shows how awful they are:



Vs

Theresienstadt (1944 film) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

First she brags about offing a puppy embarrassing her. Now showing off in front imprisoned deportees. IMHO, that is one messed woman.

 

[Toni]

Due process for illegal immigrants. What about due process for legal "ones"?
One can be denied entrance visa without any due process.

You aren't getting it. The government is declaring them here illegally without providing any proof to a court and then shipping them off to a foreign prison.

If they aren't here then that is something completely different.

Conservatives never cared about due process all that much.

Obama must have been a conservative.

Anwar al-Awlaki - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Killing of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sorry but your derail is not getting you what you hope, as anyone with a brain knows the relevant difference between laws applied (or not applied) within the territory of sovereign nation and actions taken outside it (under a different set of law). Your stupid false equivalence may work on Russian stooges, but you are wasting your breath here.

That's not a refutation of what I said.

It is. You just aren’t able to understand it or are willfully attempting a false equivalence. This, however f course, is straight out of the Putin play book and readily adapted by MAGA for their own purposes.

Btw, conservative is not a bad word and it does not apply to MAGA who, at this point are rabid racists, xenophobes and fascists. Which is why you find them so familiar and relatable. I mean the fascist part. I don’t know about the racist, xenophobic parts
with respect to you.

 

[barbos]

Due process for illegal immigrants. What about due process for legal "ones"?
One can be denied entrance visa without any due process.

You aren't getting it. The government is declaring them here illegally without providing any proof to a court and then shipping them off to a foreign prison.

If they aren't here then that is something completely different.

Conservatives never cared about due process all that much.

Obama must have been a conservative.

Anwar al-Awlaki - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Killing of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sorry but your derail is not getting you what you hope, as anyone with a brain knows the relevant difference between laws applied (or not applied) within the territory of sovereign nation and actions taken outside it (under a different set of law). Your stupid false equivalence may work on Russian stooges, but you are wasting your breath here.

That's not a refutation of what I said.

It is. You just aren’t able to understand it or are willfully attempting a false equivalence. This, however f course, is straight out of the Putin play book and readily adapted by MAGA for their own purposes.

No it is not.

Btw, conservative is not a bad word and it does not apply to MAGA who, at this point are rabid racists, xenophobes and fascists. Which is why you find them so familiar and relatable. I mean the fascist part. I don’t know about the racist, xenophobic parts
with respect to you.

I agree, don't know why is that relevant though.

 

[ZiprHead]

Germany and Great Britain are now telling its citizens to not go to the U.S. We are now one of "those countries."

 

[Toni]

Due process for illegal immigrants. What about due process for legal "ones"?
One can be denied entrance visa without any due process.

You aren't getting it. The government is declaring them here illegally without providing any proof to a court and then shipping them off to a foreign prison.

If they aren't here then that is something completely different.

Conservatives never cared about due process all that much.

Obama must have been a conservative.

Anwar al-Awlaki - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Killing of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sorry but your derail is not getting you what you hope, as anyone with a brain knows the relevant difference between laws applied (or not applied) within the territory of sovereign nation and actions taken outside it (under a different set of law). Your stupid false equivalence may work on Russian stooges, but you are wasting your breath here.

That's not a refutation of what I said.

It is. You just aren’t able to understand it or are willfully attempting a false equivalence. This, however f course, is straight out of the Putin play book and readily adapted by MAGA for their own purposes.

No it is not.

Btw, conservative is not a bad word and it does not apply to MAGA who, at this point are rabid racists, xenophobes and fascists. Which is why you find them so familiar and relatable. I mean the fascist part. I don’t know about the racist, xenophobic parts
with respect to you.

I agree, don't know why is that relevant though.

You brought it up.

 

[laughing dog]

I agree, don't know why is that relevant though.

You brought it up.

Which is sufficient proof of its irrelevance.

 

[barbos]

You brought it up.

No, I did not.
I merely pointed out that Obama was not as different as you try to picture.

 

[Spacetime Inhabitant]

So was wondering if anyone could help me out here. We have clear evidence right in front of our eyes that we have people in power willing to send innocent people to slavery and torture for the sole purpose of creating a propaganda reel and create terror, for the sole purpose of entrenching their power. Even if you are one of the sickos that gets hard watching the videos, isn't there any kind of "oh shit" realization that these people have absolutely no limits on what they will do when it benefits them? Even if you enjoy seeing immigrants being tortured, why doesn't the thought cross the mind that supporting this kind of power is like playing Russian Roulette? It's all fun until the bullet blows through your brain?

I just don't see how delusion is enough to explain it away. They know exactly what is happening (which is why they jerk off to the video). Maybe some sort of psychiatric condition to believe they could never be a target? Maybe a willingness to collaborate and therefore be useful? A delusion that the guy in power will always target other people no matter what?

From a self preservation standpoint, it just doesn't make sense. Maybe they are being led by their sadistic dicks and are so nihilistic they couldn't give two shits if humans go extinct? Any psychologists that can chime in?

For all of you dramacrats going on about this, what we at least no longer have is a border problem anymore. As Trump himself said at his inaugural address, congress did not need to pass any more laws. All our country needed was a new president. The illegals flooding through the gates during Biden's term are thinking twice about doing it now. Trump has resolved at least one of his campaign promises. He has fixed the border already.

You can call all this cruel and bad and you may even be right. After all, no one likes to see criminals get punished. It is unsettling for someone so dignified as yourself to see. But this punishment is the exact deterrence preventing more crime over the border. Illegals just aren't coming across anymore and for good reason.

There will still be people illegally crossing the border - probably from or for the cartels bringing in more drugs.
The only proper way to deal with border issues is with laws, and Biden had proposed such a law which the Republicans at the behest of Trump, before he again became president stopped being passed. This shows how beholden, and in the grip of Trump's desires the Republican Congress is, that they did this before he gained all that additional power from being president.
Saying that congress does not need to pass any new laws he can use also to justify other illegal acts.

 

[Jarhyn]

You just aren’t able to understand it or are willfully attempting a false equivalence

I will save it for you: Barbos actually admitted in the last week that it is willful whataboutism. He used the term himself.

When do such people actually end up losing the benefit of the doubt when they do this shit?

 

[barbos]

You just aren’t able to understand it or are willfully attempting a false equivalence

I will save it for you: Barbos actually admitted in the last week that it is willful whataboutism. He used the term himself.

There is nothing wrong in whataboutism. It's perfectly fine, you do it all the time too.
See what I just did?

 

[Toni]

You brought it up.

No, I did not.
I merely pointed out that Obama was not as different as you try to picture.

You are the one who introduced Obama into the conversation. I understand this as a typical tactic: you cannot call out whatever egregious sanction or statement by a MAGA because ( insert name), your hero was not perfect ( by my standards).

It’s weak ass bullshit, intended to distract from the validity of whatever criticism or observation is being made of one of Putin’s buddies—or Putin himself.

It’s extremely weak and ineffective. There are no perfect people. Everyone has done bad things. But stealing a candy bar from a bodega is not the same thing as kidnapping, torturing and then cannibalizing people.

 

[Toni]

You just aren’t able to understand it or are willfully attempting a false equivalence

I will save it for you: Barbos actually admitted in the last week that it is willful whataboutism. He used the term himself.

When do such people actually end up losing the benefit of the doubt when they do this shit?

I’d say about 10 years ago, re: barbos.

 

[Toni]

You just aren’t able to understand it or are willfully attempting a false equivalence

I will save it for you: Barbos actually admitted in the last week that it is willful whataboutism. He used the term himself.

There is nothing wrong in whataboutism. It's perfectly fine, you do it all the time too.
See what I just did?

No.

 

[Jarhyn]

You just aren’t able to understand it or are willfully attempting a false equivalence

I will save it for you: Barbos actually admitted in the last week that it is willful whataboutism. He used the term himself.

There is nothing wrong in whataboutism. It's perfectly fine, you do it all the time too.
See what I just did?

No.

Like, what does he not understand? False equivalencies are whataboutism. Whataboutism is drawing false equivalencies. False equivalencies, when drawn by someone unaware of them, are "dishonest". When drawn by someone who cannot become aware they are being drawn we call them "madness". When drawn by someone knowingly, there's a word for it. It's on the top of my tongue. Starts with L, I think?

 

[barbos]

You are the one who introduced Obama into the conversation. I understand this as a typical tactic: you cannot call out whatever egregious sanction or statement by a MAGA because ( insert name), your hero was not perfect ( by my standards).

What Obama did was egregious too. Your false equivalence excuses don't fly.

It’s weak ass bullshit, intended to distract from the validity of whatever criticism or observation is being made of one of Putin’s buddies—or Putin himself.

Again, both (Trump and Obama) were wrong, I told you that already.
Your inability to acknowledge that is amusing.

 

[barbos]

Deportation Barbie transitioned into torture barbie, shows off US slave camp in the most depraved manner possible. The Nazis created propaganda to falsely show their camps had humane conditions, while the US shows how awful they are:



Vs

Theresienstadt (1944 film) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The ironic part is, it was the US who screwed the Central America in the first place.
all these gangs is YOUR doing.