Climate Change(d)?

[Elixir]

The Net Zero Cult is unraveling.

…and that’s gonna benefit trumpsuckers …. How?

 

[Shadowy Man]

The Net Zero Cult is unraveling.

…and that’s gonna benefit trumpsuckers …. How?

Owning the libs is the currency of the far right. Their elected officials may end up depriving them of actual money, health care, and job opportunities, but they are enriched nonetheless.

 

[Elixir]

Owning the libs is the currency of the far right. Their elected officials may end up depriving them of actual money, health care, and job opportunities, but they are enriched nonetheless.

Even the homeless are not THAT impoverished.

 

[TSwizzle]

It really is a religion

Countries looking to boost their national security through rearmament or increased defence spending must also bolster their climate efforts or face more wars in the future, one of the leaders of the next UN climate summit has warned. Some countries could decide to include climate spending in their defence budgets, suggested Ana Toni, Brazil’s chief executive of the Cop30 summit. “Climate change is an accelerator of inequalities and poverty, and we know that the consequences of inequality and poverty can turn into wars in the future,” she said. “The fight against climate change needs to be seen as something that’s not divorced from the big security issue of humanity.” Toni is one of the top Brazilian officials coordinating the Cop30 conference, scheduled to take place this year in Belém, a rainforest city at the mouth of the Amazon.

Teh Gruaniad

Meanwhile

A new four-lane highway cutting through tens of thousands of acres of protected Amazon rainforest is being built for the COP30 climate summit in the Brazilian city of Belém. It aims to ease traffic to the city, which will host more than 50,000 people - including world leaders - at the conference in November. The state government touts the highway's "sustainable" credentials, but some locals and conservationists are outraged at the environmental impact.

BBC

 

[southernhybrid]

https://wapo.st/4lcAIg0

Above is gifted article

The extent of sea ice blanketing the Arctic this winter fell to the lowest level on record, researchers announced this week, an ominous signal about the effects of climate change in the world’s fastest-warming region.

Ask your climate questions. With the help of generative Al, we'll try to deliver answers based on our published reporting.

March is usually the peak season for Arctic sea ice; after months of ceaseless polar darkness, conditions are frigid and much of the ocean is frozen over. But just 5.53 million square miles of ice had formed as of March 22 this year — the smallest maximum extent in the 47-year satellite record, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center. Since then, the ice has already begun to melt again.

“Sea ice is acting like the old canary in the coal mine,” Dartmouth University geophysicist Don Perovich said. “It’s saying loud and clear that warming is occurring.”

The record comes at a grim time for ice in all corners of the globe. In Antarctica, which has historically been more isolated from the effects of human-caused warming, sea ice shrank this month to the second-lowest extent on record. Research published in the journal Nature in February found that Earth’s glaciers are dwindling at an accelerating rate.

Just sayin'.

And why are all the things that usually bloom in late April blooming now. Each year it seems to get earlier. Why has the temp beenas much as17 degrees above normal in the ATL area on and off over the past few months? It's lovely weather but it's not normal and it's happening at a more rapid pace than previously predicted. Oh well. Enjoy it while you can, especially since the felon is doing his best to increase pollution, make water dirty again, drill baby drill and all that shit. One would think that even if you're a denialist when it comes to climate change, you'd still support clean air and water. But, I digress.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The Net Zero Cult is losing a key member

I think it is quite something that you think reducing pollution and carbon pollution into the atmosphere to the point that we aren't impacting it, is some sort of cult thing, when it would actually be a sustainability thing.

It is quite something that you view "carbon" as a pollutant and that it has a significant effect on the weather. "Net Zero" is a religious cult and people are starting to turn their back on it.

Very simple test: What would Earth be like without the greenhouse effect? Blackbody + applying Earth's actual albedo we get 255K. This could never actually happen as at 255K we would be snowballed, reflecting away a lot more energy and making it even colder. Life would be limited to the hydrothermal vents and we wouldn't be here to discuss it.

We have 32K? 33K? (I see conflicting information on this, I suspect 32K is right and the 33K is a rounding issue) of warming already. Is that not significant??

 

[Shadowy Man]

Life would be limited to the hydrothermal vents and we wouldn't be here to discuss it.

Assuming it would have even started in the first place.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It really is a religion

Countries looking to boost their national security through rearmament or increased defence spending must also bolster their climate efforts or face more wars in the future, one of the leaders of the next UN climate summit has warned. Some countries could decide to include climate spending in their defence budgets, suggested Ana Toni, Brazil’s chief executive of the Cop30 summit. “Climate change is an accelerator of inequalities and poverty, and we know that the consequences of inequality and poverty can turn into wars in the future,” she said. “The fight against climate change needs to be seen as something that’s not divorced from the big security issue of humanity.” Toni is one of the top Brazilian officials coordinating the Cop30 conference, scheduled to take place this year in Belém, a rainforest city at the mouth of the Amazon.

Teh Gruaniad

Meanwhile

A new four-lane highway cutting through tens of thousands of acres of protected Amazon rainforest is being built for the COP30 climate summit in the Brazilian city of Belém. It aims to ease traffic to the city, which will host more than 50,000 people - including world leaders - at the conference in November. The state government touts the highway's "sustainable" credentials, but some locals and conservationists are outraged at the environmental impact.

BBC

The COP summits have long since been subverted by Big Carbon and are nothing more than an exercise in pretending to do something to reduce the level of protest. Thus they are in no way an indication of actual proper behavior.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

And why are all the things that usually bloom in late April blooming now. Each year it seems to get earlier. Why has the temp beenas much as17 degrees above normal in the ATL area on and off over the past few months? It's lovely weather but it's not normal and it's happening at a more rapid pace than previously predicted. Oh well. Enjoy it while you can, especially since the felon is doing his best to increase pollution, make water dirty again, drill baby drill and all that shit. One would think that even if you're a denialist when it comes to climate change, you'd still support clean air and water. But, I digress.

Yup, we've seen big changes in growing seasons. At this point I'm thinking I need to move to indoor seed starting so there can be some overlap between summer and winter stuff. And I no longer have any idea what the last frost date is, I'm sure the historical records are now meaningless.

 

[Elixir]

At this point I'm thinking I need to move to indoor seed starting so there can be some overlap between summer and winter stuff.

Yesterday was the new moon. 25 years ago I'd be thinking about starting some indoor tomato plants for transplanting into the greenhouse in early May. Yesterday I planted spinach in the ground in the greenhouse, and will plant some romaine in there this week.
I decided to experiment with tomatoes, which typically take up 80% of the greenhouse.
I put a few seeds into seed cups and put them under a plastic cover in the greenhouse. I've seen "wild" tomato plants come up in there in April before. They mostly freeze before they can grow up. This year I hope to coax these early ones into surviving; the one time (year before last) when I did transplant before the last freeze and used a heater and "walls of water" to keep some plants alive, we were eating ripe tomatoes in late June, all the way to November.
We will start indoor seedlings next month, but meanwhile I'm hoping to get a few early plants to survive an am fairly optimistic about it considering the "climate change" we've witnessed here over the last ...29 (wow!) years.

 

[steve_bank]

TSwizzle would fir right in with RFK.

Sanaa Monica would be a good place for a coal fired power pant. After all it would only take up a small percent of the land.

 

[TV and credit cards]

It could be a win win for the Salton Sea.

Initially pegged at 4 million tons of lithium, a revised estimate by the DoE is 18 million tons. Good thing Orange Julius wasn't here in time to defund this study.

Massive 18 million Tons of Lithium Deposit Found Under California's Salton Sea

A groundbreaking discovery has positioned California's Salton Sea as a pivotal player in the global lithium market, with scientists unearthing an estimated 18 million tons of the critical mineral, valued at a staggering $540 billion.

www.chemanalyst.com

And hopefully there will be funds for restoration.

Sink or swim time for Salton Sea? Momentum builds for pricey lake restoration

California's biggest lake has languished for decades as increased salinity, a sinking waterline and a foul smell have robbed it of past glory.

www.usatoday.com

 

[TSwizzle]

Tao Leigh Goffe argues climate breakdown is the mutant offspring of European scientific racism and colonialism;

We all think we know what is causing the breakdown of the planet’s climate: burning fossil fuels that release carbon dioxide, change the chemistry of the air and trap more heat from the sun, leading to rising temperatures. But Tao Leigh Goffe, an associate professor of Africana, Puerto Rican and Latino Studies at the City University of New York, wants us to visualise a far more specific cause: the shunting of a ship’s prow on to the sandbank of a paradise island in 1492. In Dark Laboratory, her groundbreaking new book, Goffe argues that it was the colonisation of the Americas by Christopher Columbus that set off the chain of events that has led us to where we stand today, on the precipice of global catastrophe.

Teh Gruaniad

On a par with Scientology now.

It is a catastrophic 55 degrees in Santa Monica today.

 

[steve_bank]

Well all else fails play the race card. Race baiting. Switch the conversation fromphysical science of climate change to political debate over race. Politics 101.

From reports Trump wants to build coal power plants in Ca.

 

[Elixir]

Tao Leigh Goffe

Yah, ya get your climate science wherever ya find agreement with your ignorant opinion.
An associate professor of literary history and cultural theory? Purrr-fect. You are now a right wing Xspurt on climate science!

 

[southernhybrid]

Wow! Even the big banks are aware and trying to prepare for global warming! I first read about this in ScientificAmerican but it doesn't allow me to share articles. This information is in many sources now.

https://www.eenews.net/articles/big-banks-predict-catastrophic-warming-with-profit-potential/

Top Wall Street institutions are preparing for a severe future of global warming that blows past the temperature limits agreed to by more than 190 nations a decade ago, industry documents show.

The big banks’ acknowledgment that the world is likely to fail at preventing warming of more than 2 degrees Celsius above preindustrial levels is spelled out in obscure reports for clients, investors and trade association members. Most were published after the reelection of President Donald Trump, who is seeking to repeal federal policies that support clean energy while turbocharging the production of oil, gas and coal — the main sources of global warming.

The recent reports — from Morgan Stanley, JPMorgan Chase and the Institute of International Finance — show that Wall Street has determined the temperature goal is effectively dead and describe how top financial institutions plan to continue operating profitably as temperatures and damages soar.

Morgan Stanley’s frank assessment of the air conditioning market follows a trade association briefing in February in which industry officials argued that the financial sector needs a coordinated messaging campaign to regulators, investors and the public that the Paris targets are no longer within reach — and banks should not be expected to pursue them.

“The world is not on track to limit temperature rise below 2°C — and limiting warming [to] 1.5°C is almost certainly unachievable,” the Institute of International Finance wrote in bolded text, citing analyses from the energy research firm the Rhodium Group and the Climate Action Tracker, an environmental collaborative.

“Financial institutions need to recalibrate targets to reflect that 1.5°C are no longer suitable as strategic goals,” the briefing said. “Reputational concerns may arise in the absence of an aligned view amongst stakeholders on how such processes should be handled, and what criteria may need to be applied.”

 

[TSwizzle]

Oh noes!

The world is on track for disastrous global heating – but this will create profits for some air conditioning companies, according to forecasts by leading Wall Street financial institutions. Recent reports by Morgan Stanley, JPMorgan Chase and the Institute of International Finance all make clear the finance sector considers the Paris climate agreement limiting global temperatures, signed a decade ago by nearly 200 nations, is effectively dead and investors should plan accordingly. “We now expect a 3C world,” states a March analysis by Morgan Stanley. This level of global heating above preindustrial times is well beyond the 2C limit agreed to by governments and would lead to catastrophic heatwaves, floods, economic strife and other upheavals. The Morgan Stanley investor research forecasts, though, that multiplying heatwaves will provide a windfall for companies that provide air conditioning, and that the global market could grow by 41% to be worth $331bn by the end of this decade. Banks, too, have shown signs they are scaling back their climate concerns. Since December, the six biggest US banks – JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Citigroup, Wells Fargo, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs – have all quit a group called the Net-Zero Banking Alliance, which sets responsible banking practices to meet climate goals.

Teh Gruaniad

Teh Gruaniad is so dramatic.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Oh noes!

The world is on track for disastrous global heating – but this will create profits for some air conditioning companies, according to forecasts by leading Wall Street financial institutions. Recent reports by Morgan Stanley, JPMorgan Chase and the Institute of International Finance all make clear the finance sector considers the Paris climate agreement limiting global temperatures, signed a decade ago by nearly 200 nations, is effectively dead and investors should plan accordingly. “We now expect a 3C world,” states a March analysis by Morgan Stanley. This level of global heating above preindustrial times is well beyond the 2C limit agreed to by governments and would lead to catastrophic heatwaves, floods, economic strife and other upheavals. The Morgan Stanley investor research forecasts, though, that multiplying heatwaves will provide a windfall for companies that provide air conditioning, and that the global market could grow by 41% to be worth $331bn by the end of this decade. Banks, too, have shown signs they are scaling back their climate concerns. Since December, the six biggest US banks – JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Citigroup, Wells Fargo, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs – have all quit a group called the Net-Zero Banking Alliance, which sets responsible banking practices to meet climate goals.

Teh Gruaniad

Teh Gruaniad is so dramatic.

Banks kowtowing to a dictator means the problem is going away??

But the reich wing has been using an Emperor's Clothes approach all along as if a sufficient number of voices can control reality.

 

[southernhybrid]

Oh noes!

The world is on track for disastrous global heating – but this will create profits for some air conditioning companies, according to forecasts by leading Wall Street financial institutions. Recent reports by Morgan Stanley, JPMorgan Chase and the Institute of International Finance all make clear the finance sector considers the Paris climate agreement limiting global temperatures, signed a decade ago by nearly 200 nations, is effectively dead and investors should plan accordingly. “We now expect a 3C world,” states a March analysis by Morgan Stanley. This level of global heating above preindustrial times is well beyond the 2C limit agreed to by governments and would lead to catastrophic heatwaves, floods, economic strife and other upheavals. The Morgan Stanley investor research forecasts, though, that multiplying heatwaves will provide a windfall for companies that provide air conditioning, and that the global market could grow by 41% to be worth $331bn by the end of this decade. Banks, too, have shown signs they are scaling back their climate concerns. Since December, the six biggest US banks – JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Citigroup, Wells Fargo, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs – have all quit a group called the Net-Zero Banking Alliance, which sets responsible banking practices to meet climate goals.

Teh Gruaniad

Teh Gruaniad is so dramatic.

Banks kowtowing to a dictator means the problem is going away??

But the reich wing has been using an Emperor's Clothes approach all along as if a sufficient number of voices can control reality.

Yes. They hope to profit from climate change, but they aren't ignorant regarding the problem. In fact they admit it's much worse than previously predicted. I guess even bank CEOs understand climate science, even if they aren't going to maintain responsible banking practices.

I think it's pretty hopeless at this point, especially since we have an idiot for president who is not only in denial regarding climate change, he doesn't even care about clean air or water. Anyone with a working brain can read the things he's doing to destroy the EPA, make car exhausts dirtier, destroy wildlife sanctuaries, etc. One would think that if nothing else, we'd all want clean water and air, even if we lacked the ability to see the obvious impact of human behavior on the climate.

 

[TV and credit cards]

If you've got any freebees left for The Atlantic...

The Hottest Thing in Clean Energy

Little of America’s energy comes from geothermal sources, but that could change quickly.

www.theatlantic.com

The United States is in the midst of an energy revolution. Under the Biden administration, the country shoveled unprecedented sums of federal dollars into clean-energy projects—battery factories, solar farms, nuclear plants—while also producing and exporting record volumes of oil and gas. President Donald Trump has vowed to ramp up energy production further, but takes a skeptical view of solar and wind power. But Trump’s “Drill, baby, drill” mantra extends beyond fossil fuels. His administration is embracing geothermal energy, which is primed for a very American boom.

So it uses fracking. The knuckle draggers like that.
It's zero carbon. The libbies like that.
It's always on and easily throttled.
It uses water in the fracking process, not some mystery fluid.
It can be done across large portions of the US, not just in small hot spots.
I think the only thing that may kill it is there is nothing divisive about this new geothermal. No reason to argue or protest. And we all hate when we can't bitch about a thing.