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The selective editing and the framing is 100% neo-Nazi propaganda. You are just so used to it that you are blind to it. Read the article I listed that traces the origin of this gross racist garbage.
Everybody who disagrees with you is a Nazi? And the article does not deny that he said what he said.
Did you watch the full video of his speech? It is only 4 minutes long. Definitely a derangement syndrome if you somehow see anything wrong with a fairly bland speech about the south asian community involvement with politics and the benefits that can bring to their community when representatives from that community get elected to political office.
I do not see how the full video changes what he said. He still said that things are changing and that in future Pakistanis and similar will control school curricula in the UK (or will it be renamed Islamic Republic of Great Britain?)
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I mean what children are taught in schools is something MAGA and the far right have been screaming about for decades now and using their political power to control and influence.
I oppose MAGA too, but this thread is not about MAGA.
And while Muslims are still minorities in western Europe, their numbers are rapidly rising due to both mass migration and them having many children. And pound for pound, Islamism is far worse than MAGA.
Unfortunately, the islamophilic Left has a blind spot when it comes to dangers from political Islam.

And suddenly when a south asian community wants the same thing for their children you start clutching your pearls?
Why is it that it is ok to oppose MAGA influencing what is taught in schools (even to the point of derailing this thread) but it is politically incorrect and "unwoke" to be concerned about the same thing being pushed by the Islamsts? Even if it tends to be similar issues they are pushing?
Example:
Hundreds of Muslim kids kept off Manchester school in protest at sex education teaching
White Christians opposing sex ed? Look at those backward fascists!
Muslims opposing sex ed? You are a Neonazi if you speak against this!

Take a good look in the mirror and think about why you are having such an extremist reaction to something relatively bland and benign?
That's the point. It is not bland, nor benign. And it will keep getting worse, as the population share of Muslims in the West just keeps increasing.
Western Europe is farthest away in terms of Islamization, but that does not mean it is not happening on this side of the Pond too.

A Muslim Mayor Endorses Trump, and a City of Immigrants Finds Itself Undone
 
Most of the Muslims in Burnley (and across the UK) are the children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren and even great-great-grand children of immigrants who arrived in the UK in the 1950s from Pakistan and Bangladesh,
Do you have numbers backing that up? I understand many Muslims came into Europe, including Britain, in recent decdes, and especially since 2015 as part of the Migration Crisis (Danke, Merkel!).
They are illegally crossing the Channel all the time!
Migrant crossings hit 10,000 so far this year

So, what are the numbers for Muslims who are descendens of the 1950s mass migration wave vs. those Muslims who came, say, since 1990?
Is the former really the majority? I really doubt it.
at the invitation of the British Government who were seeking to resolve the post-war labour shortage.
And that turned out to be a very stupid decision.

It takes a special kind of vile racism to suggest that we shouldn't call someone born a British Citizen, whose parents and grandparents were also born British Citizens, "British".
If someone said that Colin Powell was American, would you say "American? lol!"?
They are certainly citizens de jure. But are they part of the larger society or have they formed a parallel one?
It matters less how long somebody (or their ancestors) have been here than how well they are integrated into the society.
An immigrant can "go native" within 10 years while another may exist separate from the mainstream society even after 10 generations.

That's why it's important to be selective when it comes to immigration. Blindly taking everybody who wants to work, or even worse, everybody who shows up on the beaches in a dinghy, is suicidal in its shortsighted stupidity.

Take your racist bullshit, and shove it up your arse.
Again, it's not about race, it's about how well individuals integrate. And Islamism prevents hardcore Muslims to integrate into western societies. Btw, Islam is not a race, not even an ethnicity.
 
The selective editing and the framing is 100% neo-Nazi propaganda. You are just so used to it that you are blind to it. Read the article I listed that traces the origin of this gross racist garbage.
Everybody who disagrees with you is a Nazi? And the article does not deny that he said what he said.
The fact that you are spreading Neo-Nazi propaganda doesn't necessarily make you Neo-Nazi. You either just easily fall for their tricks or are sympathetic to their view point.

Did you watch the full video of his speech? It is only 4 minutes long. Definitely a derangement syndrome if you somehow see anything wrong with a fairly bland speech about the south asian community involvement with politics and the benefits that can bring to their community when representatives from that community get elected to political office.
I do not see how the full video changes what he said. He still said that things are changing and that in future Pakistanis and similar will control school curricula in the UK (or will it be renamed Islamic Republic of Great Britain?)
That is the Neo-Nazi framing of it. What he said is we get elected to positions of power, we get a say in deciding what is taught in schools, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN POWER DOES.



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I mean what children are taught in schools is something MAGA and the far right have been screaming about for decades now and using their political power to control and influence.
I oppose MAGA too, but this thread is not about MAGA.
And while Muslims are still minorities in western Europe, their numbers are rapidly rising due to both mass migration and them having many children. And pound for pound, Islamism is far worse than MAGA.
Unfortunately, the islamophilic Left has a blind spot when it comes to dangers from political Islam.

And that you assume Anas Aswar is an Islamist just because he has Pakistani ethnicity is proof of your racism. It is just oozing from every pore in your body.

And suddenly when a south asian community wants the same thing for their children you start clutching your pearls?
Why is it that it is ok to oppose MAGA influencing what is taught in schools (even to the point of derailing this thread) but it is politically incorrect and "unwoke" to be concerned about the same thing being pushed by the Islamsts?
He didn't even mention what he wants taught in schools. You assuming to know it must be illiberal/Islamist is racism, bar none.

Even if it tends to be similar issues they are pushing?
Example:
Hundreds of Muslim kids kept off Manchester school in protest at sex education teaching
White Christians opposing sex ed? Look at those backward fascists!
Muslims opposing sex ed? You are a Neonazi if you speak against this!
Then why the fuck would you automatically assume he supports this when he said nothing of the sort? As if it is already an accepted fact. Not to beat a dead horse, but you are being racist for doing so.
And I bring up the MAGA stuff (and it's equivalent in the UK), because the illiberal threat from them is orders of magnitude more severe than that of conservative Muslims due to their much bigger numbers voting and in positions of power.

And I don't at all oppose speaking up against those who support illiberalism whether Christian or Muslim. Where it becomes racist/Islamophobic is assuming automatically based on ethnicity or religion that they automatically want illiberal things based on that alone, and then spreading fear about everything they say using white nationalist/neo-nazi framing. That is what I will call out.
 
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No, it's a pointed comment on the fact that Christian supremacy is truly a threat to the USA. By comparison, a few Muslims getting elected in Great Britain is peanuts.
They are both threats, but the former is not the subject of this thread. There are plenty of threads dealing with it.
The Islamist threat is a greater long term threat due to immigration and demographic trends.
It's like getting worked up about Muslim music playing in Minneapolis, while Christian Domininists take over the federal government.
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It's not music; it's "calls to prayer", i.e. religious messages. And they are being blared at high volume as early as 3AM in the Summer.
One can (and should) oppose both things. Opposition to Christian Dominionism should not mean that Islamists are being given a pass. Quite the contrary!
 
No, it's a pointed comment on the fact that Christian supremacy is truly a threat to the USA. By comparison, a few Muslims getting elected in Great Britain is peanuts.
They are both threats
What is the threat of someone like Anas Sarwar getting elected in the UK? I reviewed his political career and didn't see him advance any Islamist or particularly illiberal positions. His stance was generally supportive of liberalism and left of center positions. Nothing extreme. And as far as what he wants children to learn in school, he sent his children to a private secular school that is known for excellent academic performance. He is not the threat but part of the solution. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?


 
South Asians != Islamists

more Pakistanis and South Asians sitting in the corridors of power, making the decisions != taking over government
 
They are not even trying to hide it any more.

‘Another Pakistan about to emerge in UK’: Scottish leader Anas Sarwar exhorts Pakistanis to ‘take power’ | Watch

Yahoo News said:
Scottish Labour leader Anas Sarwar is facing a huge backlash after a video emerged showing him urging Pakistanis to seize control in local councils and parliaments, political parties, and countries and become more politically influential, a statement critics have condemned as deeply inappropriate, undemocratic, and advocating sectarianism.
In the video that has now gone viral, Sarwar is seen standing in front of a Pakistani flag and saying, “We will only truly get real power if we have more Pakistanis sitting in the council chambers and parliaments, but actually more Pakistanis and South Asians sitting in the corridors of power and making the decisions. The change is coming, and the days where our South Asian community is viewed as a vote bank or curry bank are well and truly gone.”
Oh look, Derec spreading neo-nazi propaganda. Probably the least surprising thing today.


The full video here. Only a rabid racist or Islamophobe would find anything concerning with this


Rabies and phobias are wherever you can get/manufacture them.
 
It's not music; it's "calls to prayer", i.e. religious messages. And they are being blared at high volume as early as 3AM in the Summer.
One can (and should) oppose both things.
You keep repeating this factoid without a shred of evidence. Do you have actual evidence or are you employing the propaganda technique of Goebbels?
 
No, it's a pointed comment on the fact that Christian supremacy is truly a threat to the USA. By comparison, a few Muslims getting elected in Great Britain is peanuts.
They are both threats
What is the threat of someone like Anas Sarwar getting elected in the UK? I reviewed his political career and didn't see him advance any Islamist or particularly illiberal positions. His stance was generally supportive of liberalism and left of center positions. Nothing extreme. And as far as what he wants children to learn in school, he sent his children to a private secular school that is known for excellent academic performance. He is not the threat but part of the solution. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?


Fear.
 
“British” MP Tahir Ali wants an airport built in Kashmir.
A Labour MP for a city plagued with bin strikes and piled high with rubbish has backed calls for a new airport to be built in Kashmir. Tahir Ali, the MP for Birmingham, has come under fire for supporting a campaign for the new airport in another country. He took to social media to voice his support for the project in the district of Mirpur, which is within the disputed Kashmir region administered by Pakistan.
He said on X: 'There has been a long-standing promise for an international airport in Mirpur, which has yet to be met. 'This causes significant issues to a number of my constituents, who are having to drive over three hours to get to the nearest airport in Pakistan. 'I will continue to push for this cause, and pursue this issue until permission is granted for a new airport.'

Daily Mail

This is the same guy who wants blasphemy laws against criticism of the quran and mohammud.

As British as fish and chips mate.
 
“British” MP Tahir Ali wants an airport built in Kashmir.
A Labour MP for a city plagued with bin strikes and piled high with rubbish has backed calls for a new airport to be built in Kashmir. Tahir Ali, the MP for Birmingham, has come under fire for supporting a campaign for the new airport in another country. He took to social media to voice his support for the project in the district of Mirpur, which is within the disputed Kashmir region administered by Pakistan.
He said on X: 'There has been a long-standing promise for an international airport in Mirpur, which has yet to be met. 'This causes significant issues to a number of my constituents, who are having to drive over three hours to get to the nearest airport in Pakistan. 'I will continue to push for this cause, and pursue this issue until permission is granted for a new airport.'

Daily Mail

This is the same guy who wants blasphemy laws against criticism of the quran and mohammud.

As British as fish and chips mate.
If the MP wants the British gov't to build the airport, you have a salient point. Otherwise, you really don't
 
The answer is so simple. As soon as the UK becomes the 52nd state, we can lend them Tom Homan and get the ethnic vacuuming in progress. I think all it needs is a polite name in Brit-speak. Maybe Organisation for Refunding the Levant.
One caveat -- Homan can still travel overseas without facing a warrant from the Hague, right?
 
The fact that you are spreading Neo-Nazi propaganda doesn't necessarily make you Neo-Nazi.
And just because you dislike something, even dislike it strongly, does not make it "Neo-Nazi".

That is the Neo-Nazi framing of it. What he said is we get elected to positions of power, we get a say in deciding what is taught in schools, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN POWER DOES.
But he framed it as an ethnic/religious group getting power over things like school curricula. Note his use of "we". That is in contrast to "they", i.e. those who do not belong to his ingroup. You even unconsciously understand it, since you did use the pronoun "we" when explaining his position, even if you don't want to acknowledge the implication.
And that you assume Anas Aswar is an Islamist just because he has Pakistani ethnicity is proof of your racism. It is just oozing from every pore in your body.
Wrong. First, he is using "us vs. them" language. Second, his wife is covered up, which means he is religious.
Also, dude, his name is Anas Sarwar, not Aswar.

He didn't even mention what he wants taught in schools. You assuming to know it must be illiberal/Islamist is racism, bar none.
He wants more Muslim/Pakistani influence in school curricula. And we know what these groups generally support and oppose.

Then why the fuck would you automatically assume he supports this when he said nothing of the sort?
If a Christian politicians we to say, in a Christian event, something like "time is coming where we will get to decide what is taught in schools", don't tell me you would not be concerned. But to the left, Muslims get a pass. And even worse, anybody who disagrees gets labeled "racist" and even "Neo-Nazi". :rolleyesa:
As if it is already an accepted fact. Not to beat a dead horse, but you are being racist for doing so.
Islam is still not a race.

And I bring up the MAGA stuff (and it's equivalent in the UK), because the illiberal threat from them is orders of magnitude more severe than that of conservative Muslims due to their much bigger numbers voting and in positions of power.
That is certainly not the case in the UK, where Islamization is well advanced.
Even in the US there are enclaves where Muslims have taken over. For example Hamtramck, where the Left supported the Muslims and are now surprised Pikachu face that the Muslims are acting like Muslims and are, for example, banning LGBT flags from city property.
A sense of betrayal’: liberal dismay as Muslim-led US city bans Pride flags

Over and over again, the Left sides with Islam and are then surprised when they get stabbed in the back. It's the old "Queers for Palestine" thing when "queers" are going to get persecuted, and might get killed, in Palestine.


And I don't at all oppose speaking up against those who support illiberalism whether Christian or Muslim. Where it becomes racist/Islamophobic is assuming automatically based on ethnicity or religion that they automatically want illiberal things based on that alone, and then spreading fear about everything they say using white nationalist/neo-nazi framing. That is what I will call out.

Nothing automatic about that. Sarwar formulated it in a sectarian way, as "us vs. them".
Also, you have to see it in light of the rest of the thread, which is about several Islamists getting elected in council elections, when when they are spouting antisemitic hatred or want to do away with "free gender mixing". But I am sure you will find a way to defend that too, and disparage anybody who dare object.
 
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What is the threat of someone like Anas Sarwar getting elected in the UK? I reviewed his political career and didn't see him advance any Islamist or particularly illiberal positions. His stance was generally supportive of liberalism and left of center positions.
His statements were very sectarian. Us vs. them. And that he is on the left of the Labour Party is hardly surprising, given the islamophilia endemic on the Left.
Nothing extreme. And as far as what he wants children to learn in school,
He wants Muslims like Maheen Kamran to have a bigger say in school curricula, while ...
he sent his children to a private secular school that is known for excellent academic performance.
... conveniently shielding his own kids from it. Reminds me of "defund the police" politicians in the US (e.g. Cori Bush) who got private security for themselves.
 
South Asians != Islamists

I never said that they were congruent sets. And you can't lump all South Asians together. Indians are largely Hindu and thus quite different from Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.
According to Pew Research, vast majorities of both these nationalities support the Sharia Law.
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That does not mean every Pakistani and Bangladeshi is Islamist of course, but when you let large numbers from those countries immigrate, you will inevitably get a large influx of Islamists whose views are incompatible with the West.
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It's not music; it's "calls to prayer", i.e. religious messages. And they are being blared at high volume as early as 3AM in the Summer.
One can (and should) oppose both things.
You keep repeating this factoid without a shred of evidence. Do you have actual evidence or are you employing the propaganda technique of Goebbels?
What do you mean "without a shred of evidence"? It is well-documented, and we discussed it extensively.

Minneapolis becomes first major U.S. city to broadcast Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day

PBS said:
Minneapolis will allow broadcasts of the Muslim call to prayer at all hours, becoming the first major U.S. city to allow the announcement or “adhan” to be heard over speakers five times a day, year-round.
The Minneapolis City Council unanimously agreed Thursday to amend the city’s noise ordinance, which had prevented dawn and late evening calls at certain times of the year due to noise restrictions, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported. The vote came during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.
As I said, it is about "calls to prayer", not playing music. And it is not about playing it at reasonable hours, but at dawn and late night.
Around the Summer Solstice, Fajr prayer occurs at 3:30AM in Minneapolis, according to this.

We went over all this before. Denying clear facts when they do not fit your ideology is more like what Goebbels would do.
And speaking of the actual Nazis, they were quite friendly with Islamists.
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If the MP wants the British gov't to build the airport, you have a salient point. Otherwise, you really don't
It is a salient point that he should mind his own bailiwick. Or else run for a seat in the Pakistani parliament instead.
 
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