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How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

Harry Bosch said:
barbos said:
Harry Bosch said:
Why should any sane person believe anything that comes out of Moscow?
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Because Russia has reputation of telling the truth whereas west has reputation of lying.
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OMG. Just read your own posts in this thread! Clearly you got your crazy past comments by listening to Russian news and Utin.
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Western scam promised not to expand NATO to the East, they lied
WMD in Iraq - lied.
Missile defense against Iranian missiles in Romania/Poland - lied, Obama admitted it.
Your Media lies 99% of time.
 
barbos said:
Harry Bosch said:
barbos said:
Harry Bosch said:
We already are. The tariffs.
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No, you are not.Trump essentially walked back all his 100000000000000000% tarifs.
China does not need US for anything.
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The war is going to continue until India and China start telling Utin that enough is enough. The only way to do this that i can see is to get China a choice: do you want access to western markets and trade; or do you want access to Russia. The only thing that you and I agree on is that Russia isn't going to stop on its own.
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You don't get it, do you? China does not need western markets. And you need Chinese shit more than they need your market anyway, that's why Trump walked back his tariffs.
Both India and especially China are not interested in West winning over Russia.
So there is really no choice here. Both China and India will choose Russia.
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Well, you tell me another bright idea that will encourage Utin to stop. Trump thinks that he has the answer:


Again, I think that Biden had Utin correct from the beginning. Trump is naive. I don't think that economic incentives on their own will bring Russia back from the barbarism that it is addicted to.
 
ZiprHead said:
barbos said:
Harry Bosch said:
Why should any sane person believe anything that comes out of Moscow?
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Because Russia has reputation of telling the truth whereas west has reputation of lying.
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:hysterical:
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You are disputing that Russia has better reputation than the West in the "Third" world?
Even in the western world things are not as your Media is trying to portray. That's why Neocon Regimes have to cancel elections and politicians.
 
Meanwhile, both Robert Fico and Aleksandar Vučić who suddenly and simultaneously fell ill, both confirmed that they are going to Moscow May 9 Parade.
 
Aleksandar Vučić is in Moscow. He could not fly through Baltic States Airspace because regimes there closed their airspace. Had to fly from the south and made a stop in Baku because Kiev regime drone attack on Russia.
 
barbos said:
Aleksandar Vučić is in Moscow. He could not fly through Baltic States Airspace because regimes there closed their airspace. Had to fly from the south
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Flying from Serbia to Moscow always means flying from the south. There is no reasonably direct flightpath between Belgrade and Moscow that transits any airspace of the Baltic States.

The most direct route would be via Hungary, Poland and Belarus; Or via Romania, Moldova, and Ukraine.

Of course, flying over Ukraine or Poland is unlikely to be permitted, because Mad Vlad fucked up his diplomatic status by invading Ukraine. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

If you want other countries to let your visitors transit their airspace, you need to not be a warmonger and bully. Nobody is dumb enough to genuinely believe your insane claims of victimhood. This is part of the "find out" phase of the FAFO protocol.

If you are looking for a shred of sympathy, you are going to be disappointed.
 
bilby said:
Flying from Serbia to Moscow always means flying from the south. There is no reasonably direct flightpath between Belgrade and Moscow that transits any airspace of the Baltic States.
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Maps are banned in Australia?
Regardless, The point here is that Baltic states felt they should proclaim their ban publicly for everyone to hear, so go and bark at them.
 
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bilby said:
If you want other countries to let your visitors transit their airspace, you need to not be a warmonger and bully. Nobody is dumb enough to genuinely believe your insane claims of victimhood. This is part of the "find out" phase of the FAFO protocol.
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NATO/EU/NATO are the aggressors and bullies here.
But then it's not really a point here. The point here is that baltic nazi shitsters never miss the opportunity to shit.
 
Estonia also refused to let Robert Fico to fly over.
EU and their rules based order.
In any case, 5 EU parliament members went to Moscow this time.
 
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I see Pashinian,
Lula (in very good mood),
Lukashenko,
Bunch of african guys,
bunch of white white guys and gals I don't recognize,
Maduro,
presidents from Asia,
Egiptian president, forgot his name.
Kazachstan President.
Aleksandar Vučić and then Robert Fico.
Clearly Mongolian guy.
Lots of former USSR republics guys i don't recognize but they clearly talk to Putin in Russian.
Xi Jinping is the last one.
 
Yep, I identified mongolian president correctly.
Also Vietnamese guy and his very good looking wife.
One of the white guys turned out to be president of Cuba.
 
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