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Legal definition of woman is based on biological sex, UK supreme court rules

And scholars are a law unto themselves individually, not a law unto themselves collectively with a collective responsibility to police one another's speech. It's called "academic freedom"; the SCOTUS has ruled that the 1st Amendment protects it. Scholars are allowed to teach their own beliefs as facts even when you or the majority of other scholars disagree with them. Some other professor's public sociology class is not your private property; neither is it your ideological team's public property. It's the property of the public, and the public has elected to fund colleges where academic freedom is practiced instead of funding madrassas where a ruling class's orthodoxy is preached without challenge from dissidents.
Who said otherwise? I have always been a firm defender of academic freedom, and I know very few professors who would disagree with anything you write here. I certainly do not. Teaching pseudoscience is morally wrong, but I said nothing about censoring it. Despite what your right wing buddies would have you believe, simply disagreeing with someone is not "censoring" or "canceling" them.
:rolleyes2: The heck are you on about? I don't have any right wing buddies who'd have me believe simply disagreeing with someone is "censoring" or "canceling" them.

Your blatant hypocrisy aside, the fact that you preached that scholars ought not to be allowed to teach the opinion that H. sapiens lacks "true hermaphrodites" in a public sociology class establishes that you do not, in point of fact, always choose freedom. You're loyal to the ideology that academics should be free to agree with you.
There is a HUGE difference between "ought not" and "ought not be allowed".
You wrote "They are free to do as they like within their congregations or in their kitchens, but not in a public sociology class." and "You cannot teach those beliefs as facts." If you intended to express "nothing about censoring it", but only "ought not", well, the way to do that was to say "They are free to do as they like within a public sociology class, but ought not." and "You ought not teach those beliefs as facts." Are you unfamiliar with what "free to" and "cannot" mean in English? And why do you keep bringing up their congregations and kitchens and "a private school that teaches your wacky religion", except to contrast a place where you ought be allowed with one where you ought not be allowed? After all, you "ought not" teach your wacky religion even in a private school. Wacky religions are parasites on the human nervous system, so you ought not to infect people with them any more than you ought to give a guy tapeworms to help him lose weight.

If Emily and Seanie understand that distinction, we'd have nothing to discuss in this thread.
I lost you. What did Emily and seanie say that implies they don't understand it?

So what? How the bejesus do you figure "If you hire that transwoman onto your board of directors, we the government will not count that appointment toward your 50%-women hiring quota. You'll have to hire another biological woman too." has the mystical power to stop that person from identifying as female?
No, it has legal power. Do you seriously not understand the difference between mysticism and the law?
:rolleyes2: Do you seriously not understand sarcasm? Fine. How the bejesus do you figure "If you hire that transwoman onto your board of directors, we the government will not count that appointment toward your 50%-women hiring quota. You'll have to hire another biological woman too." has the legal power to stop that person from identifying as female? And if you imagine you live in some fantasy world where it has that legal power, how the bejesus do you figure "If you hire that transwoman onto your board of directors, we the government will not count that appointment toward your 50%-women hiring quota. You'll have to hire another biological woman too." has the physical power to stop that person from identifying as female?
 
What did Emily and seanie say that implies they don't understand it?
I have no problem whatsoever with those two or anyone else thinking in the privacy of their own mind that trans and intersex people should be excluded from the bathroom of their choice. If those thoughts manifest as a forum post, they should expect negative replies, since their right to have those feelings is counterbalanced by the right to have different feelings. If those beliefs manifest as laws aimed at the persecution of intersex persons, there's going to be a constitutional crisis sooner or later, and all of us have a reason to care about that.

This thread is about a law.
 
You wrote "They are free to do as they like within their congregations or in their kitchens, but not in a public sociology class." and "You cannot teach those beliefs as facts." If you intended to express "nothing about censoring it", but only "ought not", well, the way to do that was to say "They are free to do as they like within a public sociology class, but ought not." and "You ought not teach those beliefs as facts." Are you unfamiliar with what "free to" and "cannot" mean in English? And why do you keep bringing up their congregations and kitchens and "a private school that teaches your wacky religion", except to contrast a place where you ought be allowed with one where you ought not be allowed? After all, you "ought not" teach your wacky religion even in a private school. Wacky religions are parasites on the human nervous system, so you ought not to infect people with them any more than you ought to give a guy tapeworms to help him lose weight.
You're the one bringing allowance into it. At present in the US, the federal government has no say over curriculum, for any reason, and things should stay that way. But I won't apologize for having strong feelings about whether or not pseudoscience should be taught in a science classroom, for fuck's sake.
 
Even if some lost tribe in Borneo was discovered, where there were true sequential hermaphrodites, it wouldn’t make a blind bit of difference.

It wouldn’t suddenly make it OK for Bob, a married father of two, who now want’s to be called Brenda, to go into the women’s changing room.
Funny how the more your "science" gets challenged, the less scientific and more openly bigoted your replies become. This post makes it clear that you know this is anti-trans legislation, and support it because of that even if there are many non-trans victims as well. You just... hate Brenda. Good old fashioned prejudice, nothing more or less. Well, you can hate Brenda all you like, but she has no reason to answer to you about what she's allowed to call herself.
 
No, I don’t hate Brenda. How they wish to consider themselves is a matter for them. Good luck.

But Brenda’s a man, and as such should stay out of those spaces reserved for women.

This is not a terrible injustice.
 
Call yourself whatever you want, but respect the rights of others, in particular females who want female only spaces in some circumstances.
 
I have no problem whatsoever with those two or anyone else thinking in the privacy of their own mind that trans and intersex people should be excluded from the bathroom of their choice. If those thoughts manifest as a forum post, they should expect negative replies, since their right to have those feelings is counterbalanced by the right to have different feelings. If those beliefs manifest as laws aimed at the persecution of intersex persons, there's going to be a constitutional crisis sooner or later, and all of us have a reason to care about that.

This thread is about a law.
What’s the point of any of your post?

You don’t have an issue with people thinking things privately?

Well that’s big of you.

But if those people express those opinions they should expect negative replies?

Who suggested otherwise?

Nobody is complaining about you expressing an alternative view, just that your opinions are incoherent and have no basis in material reality.

Which is why the law will cause you a problem. You need a coherent, logical argument, grounded in reality, to make a solid case about what the law should be.

Branding people who disagree as Nazis isn’t going to cut it.
 
And the polling suggests, both in the USA and the UK, whilst most people are supportive of trans rights in general, most also support single sex spaces based on biological sex in some circumstances.

Sports for example.
 
The Trans rights lobby massively overplayed their hand.

People are far more accepting of people not conforming to traditional expectations.

But men in women’s prisons? Sports? Hospital wards? Changing rooms? Rape crisis centres?

Never going to get general acceptance.

There is a reasonable accommodation, but it doesn’t include allowing males into female spaces because they really, really, want to be there.
 
The reasonable accommodation is recognising that a person’s sex, shouldn’t matter in most circumstances.

So trans people should be afforded dignity, respect, and be free from discrimination on the basis of being trans.

But at the same time there are situations where a person’s sex does actually matter, and so in some circumstances trans people need to excluded on the basis of their sex.

Primarily for the interests of females.
 
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