How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[Ovazor]

Even if NATO or the USA or Australia or whoever the fuck you mean by "you" had a significant presence in Ukraine, it wouldn't be an invasion if they didn't have to shoot anyone, and didn't get shot at, in order to be there.

I don't give a flying fuck about technicalities.
You installed nazi regime in Kiev with explicit goal to provoke Russia.
So enjoy war you wanted so much.

Yes, it is obvious that you do not give an aerial fornication about the reality either.

The one thing that is peculiar about the Kremlin propaganda narrative is that it never gives any agency to Ukrainians. It was not Ukrainians getting fed up with a corrupt kleptocrat but a sinister plot by western intelligence agencies that overthrew him. It was not that Ukrainians wanted to defend their country against an illegal irredentist invasion but the West made them to fight against their brotherly liberators. It was not that the Ukrainians said "no thanks" to peace talks after the Bucha massacre was revealed but again somehow the west prevented them.

 

[Ovazor]

Reality is real. The people who are invading a country are easy to spot

We did not invade, we intervened.
Your ridiculous obsession with word "invasion" is tiresome. Especially coming from the west.

Well, I could use "Illegal irredentist land grab" instead of "invasion".

It does not fucking matter.
As far as I am concerned Ukraine has no right to exist and the current government should be executed as war criminals.
Russia can not have terrorist regime on its border, period!

Russia is a terrorist regime and Ukraine has every right to defend herself against it, ask for help from any party willing to give it, and make any defensive alliance that she can.

 

[barbos]

Reality is real. The people who are invading a country are easy to spot

We did not invade, we intervened.
Your ridiculous obsession with word "invasion" is tiresome. Especially coming from the west.

Well, I could use "Illegal irredentist land grab" instead of "invasion".

It does not fucking matter.
As far as I am concerned Ukraine has no right to exist and the current government should be executed as war criminals.
Russia can not have terrorist regime on its border, period!

Russia is a terrorist regime and Ukraine has every right to defend herself against it, ask for help from any party willing to give it, and make any defensive alliance that she can.

EU/US are terrorist and nazi regimes.
Ukrainian regime lost all its rights to defend itself when they started genocide of pro-russian population in 2014. Putin is making a mistake when he expects Nazi regimes in EU/US change any time soon. There is absolutely no chance of that.
We need to cut all ties to EU/US until their racist and colonial empire slowly dies.
And this is coming from a guy who likes US and Europe in general. But your top governments are full of shit nazis on a payroll of criminal corporations. And population is so ignorant of what their governments are doing it's mind-boggling.

 

[barbos]

Fuck Nazi regime in Berlin!
I had a biology teacher (russian) who survived Leningrad siege as a kid by predecessors of the current regime in Berlin. She was clearly damaged.
Fuck you, you fucking nazis!

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[Ovazor]

EU/US are terrorist and nazi regimes.
Ukrainian regime lost all its rights to defend itself when they started genocide of pro-russian population in 2014. Putin is making a mistake when he expects Nazi regimes in EU/US change any time soon. There is absolutely no chance of that.

"Terrorist", "Nazi", "Genocide"...You keep saying those words. But I do not thing they mean what you think they mean.

 

[barbos]

Average american does not know shit about shit their governments doing abroad.
They only know what is done locally, anything abroad - they believe the man/woman on TV or simply not interested.
There are countless youtube channels with foreigners going to Russia and slowly realizing that propaganda they were fed in their countries were just that - propaganda.

 

[barbos]

EU/US are terrorist and nazi regimes.
Ukrainian regime lost all its rights to defend itself when they started genocide of pro-russian population in 2014. Putin is making a mistake when he expects Nazi regimes in EU/US change any time soon. There is absolutely no chance of that.

"Terrorist", "Nazi", "Genocide"...You keep saying those words. But I do not thing they mean what you think they mean.

Well, US supported ISIS in Syria. What do you have to say about that?
West has been murdering democratically elected leaders in Africa and Latin America.
I mean, Pinochet was your guy. Saddam was your guy too. Marcos in Philippines was your guy too. Death squads in central America, Iran-Contras.

 

[Ovazor]

Average american does not know shit about shit their governments doing abroad.
They only know what is done locally, anything abroad - they believe the man/woman on TV or simply not interested.
There are countless youtube channels with foreigners going to Russia and slowly realizing that propaganda they were fed in their countries were just that - propaganda.

Which is better than the average Russian who believe their government lies and kooky youtube videos in case the videos support the Russian government lies.

 

[barbos]

Average american does not know shit about shit their governments doing abroad.
They only know what is done locally, anything abroad - they believe the man/woman on TV or simply not interested.
There are countless youtube channels with foreigners going to Russia and slowly realizing that propaganda they were fed in their countries were just that - propaganda.

Which is better than the average Russian who believe their government lies and kooky youtube videos in case the videos support the Russian government lies.

Our government does lie a little. But these lies are small and mostly inconsequential, they are mostly about their desire to not appear incompetent.
Whereas your government lies are huge and very consequential. Your government attacked Russia, Lula said so. Don't know why he spilled it now, but he did, deal with it.
he probably did so because the murderous clown in Kiev got on his nerves

 

[Ovazor]

Average american does not know shit about shit their governments doing abroad.
They only know what is done locally, anything abroad - they believe the man/woman on TV or simply not interested.
There are countless youtube channels with foreigners going to Russia and slowly realizing that propaganda they were fed in their countries were just that - propaganda.

Which is better than the average Russian who believe their government lies and kooky youtube videos in case the videos support the Russian government lies.

Our government does lie a little. But these lies are small and mostly inconsequential.
Whereas your government lies are huge and very consequential.

Well, just to give one example, the Russian government peddles the lie that there was a some kind of genocide aganist pro-Russian population in Donbas. ICJ and numerous genocide scholars and experts found no evidence of genocide happening there. Yet this lie is not inconsequential, it has made many Russians, including you, to approve an illegal irredentist invasion of Ukraine.

And just wait until the consequences of the lie "Russian economy is doing great" become apparent.

 

[barbos]

Anyone with even very basic knowledge of history would have known that Yaroslav Hunka was a fucking nazi in seconds of the speech about him in Canadian Parliament. Yet everybody was clapping. Fuck you canadians for having such a deranged and retarded Parliament.

 

[barbos]

Average american does not know shit about shit their governments doing abroad.
They only know what is done locally, anything abroad - they believe the man/woman on TV or simply not interested.
There are countless youtube channels with foreigners going to Russia and slowly realizing that propaganda they were fed in their countries were just that - propaganda.

Which is better than the average Russian who believe their government lies and kooky youtube videos in case the videos support the Russian government lies.

Our government does lie a little. But these lies are small and mostly inconsequential.
Whereas your government lies are huge and very consequential.

Well, just to give one example, the Russian government peddles the lie that there was a some kind of genocide aganist pro-Russian population in Donbas. ICJ and numerous genocide scholars and experts found no evidence of genocide happening there. Yet this lie is not inconsequential, it has made many Russians, including you, to approve an illegal irredentist invasion of Ukraine.

And just wait until the consequences of the lie "Russian economy is doing great" become apparent.

ICJ can go and fuck themselves.
Russian economy is doing great. The thing is, money drain to the West has stopped and they have to keep it here. Biden and his nazi friend have not thought about that.
These oil money which normally were "smuggled" to the west can be conveniently invested in russian manufacturing which is protected from the Western competition by your retarded sanctions.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Reality is real. The people who are invading a country are easy to spot

We did not invade, we intervened.
Your ridiculous obsession with word "invasion" is tiresome. Especially coming from the west.

You “intervened” upon a single party with a column of tanks?
Only a Russian.

 

[Ovazor]

Reality is real. The people who are invading a country are easy to spot

We did not invade, we intervened.
Your ridiculous obsession with word "invasion" is tiresome. Especially coming from the west.

You “intervened” upon a single party with a column of tanks?
Only a Russian.

And made an absolute shambles of it. Very much Russian.

 

[barbos]

Reality is real. The people who are invading a country are easy to spot

We did not invade, we intervened.
Your ridiculous obsession with word "invasion" is tiresome. Especially coming from the west.

You “intervened” upon a single party with a column of tanks?
Only a Russian.

Yes. do you have a problem with that?
We also intervened in Kazakhstan where State Department idiots tried to regime change the government.

 

[barbos]

Reality is real. The people who are invading a country are easy to spot

We did not invade, we intervened.
Your ridiculous obsession with word "invasion" is tiresome. Especially coming from the west.

You “intervened” upon a single party with a column of tanks?
Only a Russian.

And made an absolute shambles of it. Very much Russian.

I can assure you that US are regretting their Kiev coup in 2014 now.
So your shambles are way way bigger than ours.
You were expecting easy victory in Russia, instead we have 3 years and complete collapse of the Kiev Regime on a horizon.

 

[Ovazor]

Reality is real. The people who are invading a country are easy to spot

We did not invade, we intervened.
Your ridiculous obsession with word "invasion" is tiresome. Especially coming from the west.

You “intervened” upon a single party with a column of tanks?
Only a Russian.

Yes. do you have a problem with that?
We also intervened in Kazakhstan where State Department idiots tried to regime change the government.

And again, the Russian narrative denies that Kazakhs had any agency. It was the dastardly State Department (btw, how do you know which plot is by the State Department and which by the CIA?), not Kazakhs fed up with corrupt regime that kept the ordinary people poor.

 

[Ovazor]

Reality is real. The people who are invading a country are easy to spot

We did not invade, we intervened.
Your ridiculous obsession with word "invasion" is tiresome. Especially coming from the west.

You “intervened” upon a single party with a column of tanks?
Only a Russian.

And made an absolute shambles of it. Very much Russian.

I can assure you that US are regretting their Kiev coup in 2014 now.
So your shambles are way way bigger than ours

You know, your assurances are not worth a counterfeited kopeck. And again, you deny Ukrainians any agency on what happened on their country.

 

[barbos]

And again, the Russian narrative denies that Kazakhs had any agency.

You denied it first when you decided to overthrow their government.
Kazakhs have a lot of agency, as long as they they don't become another Ukraine.
Russia will not allow hostile puppet regimes on its border, especially in former USSR republics.
Baltic states are exception but they should not try our patience with them too hard.

 

[barbos]

Reality is real. The people who are invading a country are easy to spot

We did not invade, we intervened.
Your ridiculous obsession with word "invasion" is tiresome. Especially coming from the west.

You “intervened” upon a single party with a column of tanks?
Only a Russian.

And made an absolute shambles of it. Very much Russian.

I can assure you that US are regretting their Kiev coup in 2014 now.
So your shambles are way way bigger than ours

You know, your assurances are not worth a counterfeited kopeck. And again, you deny Ukrainians any agency on what happened on their country.

Right now yes, they have no agencies, becasue you denied it.
Elensky was elected on the promise of settling with Russia. Then you ordered him to not do that. And now ukrainians are being kidnapped on the streets and sent to die for EU cleptocrats, and elections are cancelled, along with all opposition parties.
Agency my ass.

And our assurances are pretty good, we assure everyone on our borders that we will fuck you up if you decide to work for US state department psychopaths. Again, Baltic States have a pass,.... for now.