How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[bilby]

First, you are right that Galicia isn't Ukraine, but that is only because Galicia doesn't even exist. Is Galicia in the room with you right now? Your fantastical delusions of a world that doesn't exist except in your depraved and bigoted and paranoid mind hinder or prevent you from making decisions which aren't morally repugnant.

Galacia is plotting with Siam and East Prussia to fund a regiment of crossbowmen who will overthrow the Tsar. You mark my words!

 

[bilby]

It was conditional acknowledgement on the part of Russian Federation.

Yeah, it only applied on the condition that Putin didn't feel like dishonouring his word.

More fool anyone for trusting him with anything.

 

[bilby]

Russia can not allow Nazi "Ukraine" on its border, period.

Well, as such a thing hasn't existed since 1944, it's really not a problem for any sane Russian today.

If you can find any.

 

[barbos]

Russia can not allow Nazi "Ukraine" on its border, period.

Well, as such a thing hasn't existed since 1944, it's really not a problem for any sane Russian today.

If you can find any.

It clearly exists now, thanks to you.

 

[barbos]

It was conditional acknowledgement on the part of Russian Federation.

Yeah, it only applied on the condition that Putin didn't feel like dishonouring his word.

More fool anyone for trusting him with anything.

Putin honors his word just fine. It is the West.

 

[barbos]

Russia can not allow Nazi "Ukraine" on its border, period.

Well, as such a thing hasn't existed since 1944, it's really not a problem for any sane Russian today.

If you can find any.

Here:

 

[bilby]

Russia can not allow Nazi "Ukraine" on its border, period.

Well, as such a thing hasn't existed since 1944, it's really not a problem for any sane Russian today.

If you can find any.

It clearly exists now, thanks to you.

I have never even been to Ukraine.

Flew over at FL350 a couple of times, but I sincerely doubt that I am that influential from such long range.

 

[barbos]

Russia can not allow Nazi "Ukraine" on its border, period.

Well, as such a thing hasn't existed since 1944, it's really not a problem for any sane Russian today.

If you can find any.

It clearly exists now, thanks to you.

I have never even been to Ukraine.

Flew over at FL350 a couple of times, but I sincerely doubt that I am that influential from such long range.

Then you should shut the fuck up about Ukraine or Russia for that matter.

 

[bilby]

Russia can not allow Nazi "Ukraine" on its border, period.

Well, as such a thing hasn't existed since 1944, it's really not a problem for any sane Russian today.

If you can find any.

It clearly exists now, thanks to you.

I have never even been to Ukraine.

Flew over at FL350 a couple of times, but I sincerely doubt that I am that influential from such long range.

Then you should shut the fuck up about Ukraine or Russia for that matter.

And you should shut up about the Moon.

Saw that tritium was used for the reaction. Using tritium as a fuel would be terribly expensive. Like using tritium as a fuel.

Actually, as far as thermonuclear power concerned, the Moon can be economically mined for tritium.

Unless one need not visit a place to have an informed opinion about it. A fact which should be bloody obvious to anyone.

35,000 feet is rather less than 380,000km.

Or are you going to claim to have been to the Moon?

 

[barbos]

And you should shut up about the Moon.

No, I should not. We were there.

 

[barbos]

Unless one need not visit a place to have an informed opinion about it.

But you have misinformed opinion about Ukraine and Russia.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Unless one need not visit a place to have an informed opinion about it.

But you have misinformed opinion about Ukraine and Russia.

You are the one making the false claim that all Ukrainians are Nazis. And you evidence? Because they have a street sign named after a nazi. That’s your evidence. Who is misinformed?

 

[bilby]

And you should shut up about the Moon.

No, I should not. We were there.

No Russian has ever gotten closer to the Moon than Low Earth Orbit.

 

[barbos]

Unless one need not visit a place to have an informed opinion about it.

But you have misinformed opinion about Ukraine and Russia.

You are the one making the false claim that all Ukrainians are Nazis. And you evidence? Because they have a street sign named after a nazi. That’s your evidence. Who is misinformed?

Yes, street names after nazis is an evidence of nazi, applauding to a nazi thinking he was some kind of hero of resistance to russians.
And if you were informed individual you would know that these are all a big no-no in Russia.
They are not going to find any sympathy in Russia for that.
Nuland knew that, she was informed, that's why she funded it in Ukraine.

 

[barbos]

And you should shut up about the Moon.

No, I should not. We were there.

No Russian has ever gotten closer to the Moon than Low Earth Orbit.

We landed and brought back moon rock samples.
We also were the only one who landed on Venus.

 

[bilby]

And you should shut up about the Moon.

No, I should not. We were there.

No Russian has ever gotten closer to the Moon than Low Earth Orbit.

We landed and brought back moon rock samples.
We also were the only one who landed on Venus.

You watched a robot do that on TV.

By that reasoning, I visited the land of Oz when the Tin Woodman sang "If I only had a heart".

No Russian has ever gotten closer to the Moon than Low Earth Orbit. If you dispute this, name one who has.

 

[barbos]

You watched a robot do that on TV.

I did not watch anything, there was no video of that.
So you are wrong and it is irrelevant to the subject here. You are willfully ignorant about Russian and Ukrainian history.

 

[bilby]

it is irrelevant to the subject here.

Then you shouldn't have raised it.

You brought to the discussion the absurd nonsense that a person who hasn't visited a place cannot know about that place.

It's untrue. You know it's untrue. You agree, now, that it's untrue. But you tried it on, because you hoped everyone else was stupid. Which is hardly a good way to build trust. Nobody here takes you seriously anymore. What little trust and respect you once had, you have long since squandered with your daft adherence to the internally inconsistent propaganda that has been pouring out of Moscow since Mad Vlad Putin decided that his neighbour was too weak to resist invasion - and got an object lesson in how pride goeth before a fall.

Russia was feared for her possession of the second most powerful army in the world. Mad Vlad got them ridiculed as the second most powerful army in Ukraine. And then as the second most powerful army in Russia. Until Ukraine invaded, and demoted them to third.

Mad Vlad has made a laughingstock of your country. But instead of growing a pair, and throwing the miserable fucker out of a window, you let him squander your own personal reputation by parroting his very obvious lies.

Now I understand that it's possible that that reputation was deliberately and only built so as to have some capital to waste on supporting his ambitions. Maybe you are just a paid lackey who has done his best to sway Western opinions, and is not to blame for the impossibility of that task. But seriously, the guy is a lost cause. It's time to get out (if you can), and to start to rebuild your shattered reputation. You will get nothing in reward for your loyalty, now that the world can see just how evil and impotent your master really is.

 

[barbos]

Then you shouldn't have raised it.

Actually it was you.

 

[bilby]

Then you shouldn't have raised it.

Actually it was you.

That's it?

That's all you have to say in defense of your position?

You cannot deny or refute the other five paragraphs of my post?

I am not surprised. Nor even particularly disappointed. But you must know everyone can see you. You can ignore what I said, but you can't make anyone else ignore it.