Let's consider that one some more.
Frame #3, what you are missing is that it removes any incentive to better yourself. You'll get the same results if you put in effort or don't
And all the frames--you think stealing is justice? Why are they going to put on a ball game if they're not paid to do so?
Wow. Just wow.
I am continually amazed at just how far you will contort yourself to justify a status quo that inordinately favors you, a white heterosexual male with blonde hair and I’m assuming blue eyes. I am assuming you are also an only child.
You see kids stealing. I see an illustration for the differences in privilege, equality, equity and justice. Apparently for you, justice means stealing, and the only value to anything is limiting its access, no matter who is hurt.
You assume the baseball game is being performed for pay. Apparently you never engaged in team sports, either.
Earlier you accused Loren of being racist because he was against racial discrimination; now you're accusing him of being racist because he's in favor of property rights, Ms. "I respect Loren almost always"? If that's how you talk to people you respect, how do you talk to people you
don't respect?
Which completely fails to address the equity issue.
And note that I'm not the only one who recognized that your "justice" frame doesn't work.
I definitely know that you are not the only person completely at home with his white male straight cis blonde haired blue eyed privilege who has zero intention of relaxing his death grip on that privilege.
Although, tbh, the cis, straight blonde and blue eyed part is not required for that death hold on white or male privilege.
You knew, of course, that Loren was talking about me when he said he's not the only one. Are you talking about me too when you say you know Loren's not the only one? Are you accusing me of racism because I don't think tearing down a fence somebody put up on his property is "Justice"?
Once upon a time left-wing ideologues tried to sell abolishing property rights by claiming economic theory proved capitalism was exploitative, but then economists realized the Labor Theory of Value was metaphysical drivel. So then left-wing ideologues tried to sell abolishing property rights by telling the common people it would be good for them because property only benefits the rich, but then they tried it over and over, and the common people always got a police state and usually a famine out of it. So now left-wing ideologues are trying to sell abolishing property rights by claiming everyone who disagrees with them is a racist. Unless the trend in leftists' arguments' intellectual sophistication reverses, their current iteration will have to be the last.
