Climate Change(d)?

[Loren Pechtel]

Swapped out plums for mangoes here 10 years ago.

We are only 9a here, not 10. No mangoes unless it gets much, much worse.

We've jumped from 9B to Coconut Grove. The zone gradient is tight here and the warming pushed the zones right on up the coast. I keep waiting for the shoe to drop and a major cold kill take out our landscape. But it's like somebody flipped a switch in 1998 and our Brevard County climate got confused and became Broward. We've got tropical fruit and a lot of the tropical fish and lizards that used to be restricted to south Florida.

Where I grew up in interior southern Virginia has gone from 7B to 8A maybe even 8B. Every 3 to 5 years we'd see a cold snap with minimum temperatures between -5F and 5F through about 1996. It hasn't been below 10F back home since January 1996.

Nothing nearly like that here and there's nothing important that's vulnerable to frost. But I have no idea of what the last frost date is now.

 

[robnisch]

I am so fricking tired of this hot dry shit.
Need rain!!
I do not know how people can stand to live in the Southwest.
At least the low humidity helps.
I need the cool salt air of the beach.
Not Santa Monica.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Could use that dry heat here. It is humid so much more often. Even when the temp drops, more times than not, the humidity is high, so it isn't pleasant. We are about to get the exception to the recent rule with low dew points and temps for a few days. It'll warm up after that to just above normal or above normal, but the lows return to more historical levels, which means we can switch back to window fans. Been running the AC at night so much this summer.

 

[TV and credit cards]

I am so fricking tired of this hot dry shit.
Need rain!!
I do not know how people can stand to live in the Southwest.
At least the low humidity helps.
I need the cool salt air of the beach.
Not Santa Monica.

I remember the first day of boot camp in San Diego. We finally got to bed at about 0200 and the smell of the cool ocean air coming off the Pacific is one of my fondest memories. Then they woke us up four hours later.
Living there for sixteen years, I hated how dry and brown everything was. Now I've got green parks, rain, and a fresh water lake. Smells like home.

 

[Swammerdami]

I am so fricking tired of this hot dry shit.
Need rain!!

I wish we could send you some of our rain from here in Northern Thailand. Here's a video showing horrible flooding in Nan. Even farther North, the Sai River has overflowed, flooding Chiang Rai. (The Sai is a tributary of the Mekong River rather than the Nan or Ping.) Some of this devastation is blamed on Tropical Storm Wipha, now abated, but that storm was just one event in the monsoon which peaks in August and September.

Most of Chiang Mai City has been OK so far, but the Ping River is about to crest and forecasts call for more rain. Some of the shops on Floating Fortune Road are stockpiling sand-bags. The devastation ten months ago wss record-setting; let's hope this year's flood does not approach that level.

If you personally "need rain" hop on a plane to Chiang Mai!

 

[TSwizzle]

The Environmental Protection Agency will rescind the long-standing finding that greenhouse gas emissions endanger human health, as well as tailpipe emission standards for vehicles, setting off what it describes as the largest deregulatory action in U.S. history. Republican President Donald Trump's pick to run the EPA, Lee Zeldin, announced the agency's plan to rescind the "endangerment finding" on the Ruthless podcast on July 29, saying it will save Americans money and unravel two decades of regulation aimed at reducing carbon dioxide, methane and other greenhouse gases from cars, power plants, oil production and other sources.

News

This obsession with CO2 is coming to an end.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

This obsession with CO2 is coming to an end.

Glad to hear you are going to finally stop denying basic chemistry and the impact of increasing levels of CO₂ have on the atmosphere?

 

[TSwizzle]

New Zealand has woken up to reality

New Zealand’s government has voted to resume oil and gas exploration despite an outcry from the opposition and environmental groups who argue the reversal will lay waste to the country’s climate credentials. In 2018, the Jacinda Ardern-led Labour government banned the granting of new offshore oil and gas exploration permits as part of its plan to transition toward a carbon-neutral future.

The Gruaniad

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The Environmental Protection Agency will rescind the long-standing finding that greenhouse gas emissions endanger human health, as well as tailpipe emission standards for vehicles, setting off what it describes as the largest deregulatory action in U.S. history. Republican President Donald Trump's pick to run the EPA, Lee Zeldin, announced the agency's plan to rescind the "endangerment finding" on the Ruthless podcast on July 29, saying it will save Americans money and unravel two decades of regulation aimed at reducing carbon dioxide, methane and other greenhouse gases from cars, power plants, oil production and other sources.

News

This obsession with CO2 is coming to an end.

Yeah, it's going to come to an end when we we take ourselves out.

 

[TSwizzle]

HSBC has become the first UK bank to leave the global banking industry’s net zero target-setting group, as campaigners warned it was a “troubling” sign over the lender’s commitment to tackling the climate crisis.
The move risks triggering further departures from the Net Zero Banking Alliance (NZBA) by UK banks, in a fresh blow to international climate coordination efforts. HSBC’s decision follows a wave of exits by big US banks in the run-up to Donald Trump’s inauguration in January. His return to the White House has spurred a climate backlash as he pushes for higher production of oil and gas.

Teh Gruaniad


Maybe the obsession over CO2 is coming to an end.

Dominoes

Barclays has become the second UK bank to withdraw from a UN-backed net zero target-setting group, claiming that a wave of defections by international lenders meant it was no longer fit for purpose. It marks a fresh blow for the Net-Zero Banking Alliance (NZBA), after HSBC left in early July. It came months after a wave of exits by US banks

Teh Gruaniad

It is a catastrophic 75 degrees today.

 

[DBT]

That doesn't say much for the duty of care shown by some big business interests. Ignore the science, business as usual.

 

[steve_bank]

As DBT points out, it is about economics not the validity of climate change claims.
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Busissness and bank leaders are not stupiid.

 

[TSwizzle]

As DBT points out, it is about economics not the validity of climate change claims.

Well, it depends on what climate change claims you are referring to. The claims that we are experiencing some kind of existential threat is nonsense.

 

[DBT]

As DBT points out, it is about economics not the validity of climate change claims.

Well, it depends on what climate change claims you are referring to. The claims that we are experiencing some kind of existential threat is nonsense.

How do you know what the risk associated with rising Co2 levels may be? What are you basing your assessment on?

 

[steve_bank]

When NYC started cracking down on high sugar soft drinks in a hearing a rep of the soft drink industry said 'soda can be a part of healthy diet'.

For decades the tobacco industry claimed smoking was safe, and quoted industry funded 'scientific studies' that claimed to show no connection between smoking and health especially cancer.

While the vast majority of medical science and studies showed the opposite.

And now Trump cites 5 or 6 scientists who claim carbon dioxide is no risk.

 

[TSwizzle]

For decades we have been told of impending catastrophe from climate change by “experts”.

It is a catastrophic 75 degrees today and Santa Monica pier is holding up.

 

[TSwizzle]

I say this without hyperbole

It really is a rapture like cult.

 

[Shadowy Man]

I say this without hyperbole

It really is a rapture like cult.

Is “Sean Casten” one of your climate science ‘experts’? Like Al Gore and Greta Thunberg?

 

[TSwizzle]

Is “Sean Casten” one of your climate science ‘experts’? Like Al Gore and Greta Thunberg?

He’s a cultist. A cultist that is in government.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Is “Sean Casten” one of your climate science ‘experts’? Like Al Gore and Greta Thunberg?

He’s a cultist. A cultist that is in government.

so not a climate expert. No need to listen to his views on climate change then.