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Climate Change(d)?

Search on Lake Washington warming salmon run.

A lot of small things not getting a lot of media attention may be adding up. S;salmon is an important spruce of protein.

In rivers warming water means less oxygen, fish suffocate.


High water temperatures are killing fish in the Columbia River Gorge this month.

Several entities, including Columbia Riverkeeper said that water in the Columbia and Snake Rivers had become “superheated” due to a combination of climate change, heatwave events, and overheating problems related to stagnant dam reservoirs.

The optimal temperature for salmon and fish to thrive sits between 44 and 67 degrees F.

"Sockeye are dying right now because the Columbia and Snake rivers are too hot,” said Brett VandenHeuvel, Executive Director, Columbia Riverkeeper. “I’m hopeful this tragedy will inspire our elected leaders to take action to restore our rivers before it is too late."

Temperatures in the Columbia River currently exceed 71 degrees Fahrenheit.

Warming is affecting the Seattle slalmon runs to Lake Washington.
 
HSBC has become the first UK bank to leave the global banking industry’s net zero target-setting group, as campaigners warned it was a “troubling” sign over the lender’s commitment to tackling the climate crisis.
The move risks triggering further departures from the Net Zero Banking Alliance (NZBA) by UK banks, in a fresh blow to international climate coordination efforts. HSBC’s decision follows a wave of exits by big US banks in the run-up to Donald Trump’s inauguration in January. His return to the White House has spurred a climate backlash as he pushes for higher production of oil and gas.

Teh Gruaniad


Maybe the obsession over CO2 is coming to an end.
 
HSBC has become the first UK bank to leave the global banking industry’s net zero target-setting group, as campaigners warned it was a “troubling” sign over the lender’s commitment to tackling the climate crisis.
The move risks triggering further departures from the Net Zero Banking Alliance (NZBA) by UK banks, in a fresh blow to international climate coordination efforts. HSBC’s decision follows a wave of exits by big US banks in the run-up to Donald Trump’s inauguration in January. His return to the White House has spurred a climate backlash as he pushes for higher production of oil and gas.

Teh Gruaniad


Maybe the obsession over CO2 is coming to an end.

It's just a matter of physics, increasing levels of greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere, CO2, Methane, etc, raises global temperature, which in turn drives more frequent and extreme weather events.
 
Meanwhile, in California...
As the federal government turns its back on innovation and commonsense, California is making our clean energy future a reality. The world’s fourth largest economy is running on two-thirds clean power – the largest economy on the planet to achieve this milestone.
In historic first, California powered by two-thirds clean energy – becoming largest economy in the world to achieve milestone

That sounds o the high side. I looked at this before.

Natural gas-fired power plants typically account for almost one-half of in-state electricity generation. California is one of the largest hydroelectric power producers in the United States, and with adequate rainfall, hydroelectric power typically accounts for close to one-fifth of State electricity generation.

While California is a major electricity producer, its consumption often exceeds in-state generation, necessitating imports to meet demand. The exact percentage can fluctuate slightly year to year. For example, in 2022, net imports accounted for 29.2% of total system electric generation, according to the California Energy Commission.

Hoover Dam generates, on average, about 4 billion kilowatt-hours of hydroelectric power each year for use in Nevada, Arizona, and California - enough to serve 1.3 million people. From 1939 to 1949, Hoover Powerplant was the world's largest hydroelectric installation; today, it is still one of the country's largest.Aug 1, 2018

California relies on significant electricity imports, with roughly 30% of its supply coming from other states and countries. While a substantial portion of these imports are renewable, California also imports electricity generated from fossil fuels. The state's renewable energy goals, like the Renewables Portfolio Standard (RPS), are driving increased renewable energy imports.


Ca will never be energy independent with renewables any more than the rest of the country. As with the rest on the world its economy keeps growing with increasing energy demand.

And we go back to discussing what is a sustainable population and economy.
 
Meanwhile, in California...
As the federal government turns its back on innovation and commonsense, California is making our clean energy future a reality. The world’s fourth largest economy is running on two-thirds clean power – the largest economy on the planet to achieve this milestone.
In historic first, California powered by two-thirds clean energy – becoming largest economy in the world to achieve milestone

That sounds o the high side. I looked at this before.

Natural gas-fired power plants typically account for almost one-half of in-state electricity generation. California is one of the largest hydroelectric power producers in the United States, and with adequate rainfall, hydroelectric power typically accounts for close to one-fifth of State electricity generation.

While California is a major electricity producer, its consumption often exceeds in-state generation, necessitating imports to meet demand. The exact percentage can fluctuate slightly year to year. For example, in 2022, net imports accounted for 29.2% of total system electric generation, according to the California Energy Commission.

Hoover Dam generates, on average, about 4 billion kilowatt-hours of hydroelectric power each year for use in Nevada, Arizona, and California - enough to serve 1.3 million people. From 1939 to 1949, Hoover Powerplant was the world's largest hydroelectric installation; today, it is still one of the country's largest.Aug 1, 2018

California relies on significant electricity imports, with roughly 30% of its supply coming from other states and countries. While a substantial portion of these imports are renewable, California also imports electricity generated from fossil fuels. The state's renewable energy goals, like the Renewables Portfolio Standard (RPS), are driving increased renewable energy imports.


Ca will never be energy independent with renewables any more than the rest of the country. As with the rest on the world its economy keeps growing with increasing energy demand.

And we go back to discussing what is a sustainable population and economy.
Yes, my link is from the office of a politician so I take it with a grain of salt.
Though rather than looking at it for what it aspires to be and may never achieve, consider where we most definitely would be if clean energy was never pursued.
We went from coal to gas and that is an improvement. And solar, wind, and battery storage helps. And while the federal government will no longer subsidize solar and wind it will continue to do so for nuclear and geothermal and shorten the permitting process and that will be an improvement.
 
HSBC has become the first UK bank to leave the global banking industry’s net zero target-setting group, as campaigners warned it was a “troubling” sign over the lender’s commitment to tackling the climate crisis.
The move risks triggering further departures from the Net Zero Banking Alliance (NZBA) by UK banks, in a fresh blow to international climate coordination efforts. HSBC’s decision follows a wave of exits by big US banks in the run-up to Donald Trump’s inauguration in January. His return to the White House has spurred a climate backlash as he pushes for higher production of oil and gas.

Teh Gruaniad


Maybe the obsession over CO2 is coming to an end.
I think that has more to do with the UK becoming a Muslim caliphate.
 
Yo0u have to pasre the left propaganda as you do the right.

Especially so of progressive Ca propaganda.

When I was in North Idaho in the early 90s Ca wanted to dam a valley in the panhandle and pipe the water to Ca.

For decades Ca has been trying to find legal ways to get access to the Colombia Bonneville hydro power.

While Ca paints itself a champion of green energy and economy, it is emblematic of the fa mental problem. Growing population and economy with growing demand for water and energy.

Plus being the iconic symbol of American over consumptive decadence.

Ca politicians 'speak with forked tongue' so to speak.
 
What a summer in the lower Midwest region!

I noted that June was seasonal and pleasant, until about the day summer started and the heat turned up. Lake Erie, in June, stood at its fifth coolest on record. Now in July, it 4 degrees above average, fourth warmest on record. Lake Erie is shallow, so temp changes are easier than the other Great Lakes, but that is quite the swing.

The rain in the US has been quite something. Four 0.1% exceedance events (1000 year), two caused by dissipated tropical storms that didn't amount to much. The Northeast was dropped on yesterday, and generally over the past couple of weeks.
 
Meanwhile, in California...
As the federal government turns its back on innovation and commonsense, California is making our clean energy future a reality. The world’s fourth largest economy is running on two-thirds clean power – the largest economy on the planet to achieve this milestone.
In historic first, California powered by two-thirds clean energy – becoming largest economy in the world to achieve milestone
"Generated" is not "Powered by", and the 67% figure is "Generated". So for every 100TWh of electricity used in California, 67TWh of "clean" electricity was generated. Of which 24TWh came from nuclear and hydro power, leaving 43TWh from renewables. It is not recorded what proportion of that renewable power was exported to other states, and returned as imports, but the given by @steve_bank above suggests that it would be around a third, so maybe 29% of the electricity consumed in CA in 2024 came from non-hydro renewable energy.

Achieving more than about 50% of power from wind and solar is essentially impossible without obscene amounts of storage capacity, so these figures are pretty impressive for those generation types, despite being only a touch over a third of what the headline suggests.

The idea that these numbers imply that CA is somewhere close to being 100% powered by wind and solar, or even that it ever will be, is pure propaganda. Not only are they not particularly close to being half way to that goal, but they are playing a game with severely diminishing returns; The first 20-30% is easy, the next 10% is hard, the 5% beyond that is very hard indeed, and getting past 50% runs into the simple and unavoidable problem that a wind turbine only generates electricity about 30% of the time, and photovoltaics only about 25%; And those timeframes have significant overlap.

CA is just about at the limit of what can be done with renewables without either massive cost increases, or regular supply interruptions.

Further progress requires either a huge breakthrough in storage cost reduction, bringing the cost down two or three orders of magnitude; or significant investment in trans-continental and trans oceanic power transmission (which would also need to see a couple of orders of magnitude reduction in costs), coupled with huge investment in renewables on the East Coast and in Asia or Australasia.

It would be a lot cheaper to just build out 100% capacity in nuclear plus hydro, at which point wind and solar would be an irrelevance. Shit, if CA had just kept it's San Onofre nuclear generating station open, that (misleading) headline figure in the article would be over 80%.
 
HSBC has become the first UK bank to leave the global banking industry’s net zero target-setting group, as campaigners warned it was a “troubling” sign over the lender’s commitment to tackling the climate crisis.
The move risks triggering further departures from the Net Zero Banking Alliance (NZBA) by UK banks, in a fresh blow to international climate coordination efforts. HSBC’s decision follows a wave of exits by big US banks in the run-up to Donald Trump’s inauguration in January. His return to the White House has spurred a climate backlash as he pushes for higher production of oil and gas.

Teh Gruaniad


Maybe the obsession over CO2 is coming to an end.

It's just a matter of physics, increasing levels of greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere, CO2, Methane, etc, raises global temperature, which in turn drives more frequent and extreme weather events.

Conservatives: "I accept 'the science'- there are only TWO GENDERS!!"

Also conservatives: *deny basic physics*
 
Another one of those unusually moist air systems overhead in Ohio is going to splash some areas with a good deal of rain today. Dew point is currently 72 degrees.
 
My local forecast is for a catastrophic 75 degrees and sunny. In case anyone cares to know.
Historical average here is right on the 104 we are expected to get today--but we're down to 104 because a storm is blowing in.
 
In the words of Alfred E Newman

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With my bad heart I will be lucky to last another 10 years. If you are young today the future may be bleak.

Historically civilizations have failed quickly for various reasons, sometimes over consumption of resources. Sometimes drought and climate change.

COVID and Bird Flu showed how precarious our food supply chains are.

Cllimate change plus political chaos + economic war + multiple wars adds up to a perfect storm
 
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It really is a rapture like cult.

Anyway, it is a catastrophic 74 degrees and Santa Monica pier is still here. :cool: ⛱️🌴🍹
 
We may not be able to slow climate change, but we sure need to prepare for it.
DOGE was part of the reason so many people died in Texas.
More blame should go to the state and county.
They knew this was a flood prone area and chose not to do anything, $$$$.
 
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