Merged Gaza just launched an unprovoked attack on Israel

[laughing dog]

As an Israeli political scientist, I resisted thinking this war was a genocide. Here’s what changed my mind

The destruction of Gaza, including the killing of thousands of children and the restriction on humanitarian aid is undeniable. The incitement for genocide and ethnic cleansing in the Israeli public sphere — from the government, in the pro-government media, and in everyday speech is also undeniable. Then why are so many of us liberal Jews still reluctant?

I’ve thought about my colleague’s words every day since we spoke, and I think there are several reasons for many liberal Jews’ tremendous difficulty in seriously confronting the question of whether Israel is committing genocide, including a misunderstanding of what genocide can look like. None of these, however, if we are truly honest with ourselves, justify turning away from it.

The author lists several reasons why it's difficult to acknowledge the clear evidence of genocide in Gaza, including worries about "the personal, professional and communal consequences of speaking honestly". But, as she says, "the answer to fear cannot be silence."

But isn’t she an antisemitic apologist for Hamas?

 

[Derec]

But isn’t she an antisemitic apologist for Hamas?

This is not somebody who has changed her mind because of how the war is being conducted or whatever. She is a left-wing academic who has been against this war from the beginning, as can be seen here.

 

[Derec]

Roger Waters and Chris Hedges in conversation. About the Israeli genocide in Gaza but other issues too. Not a conversation that a number of people here (the minority) can understand. Those people do not get that Netanyahu and Hamas are the same.

Both of these have been rabidly anti-Israel for decades. And it is nonsense to equate Netanyahu and Hamas.

 

[DrZoidberg]

Stop talking shit

In other words "I have no answer for your intelligent point."

Too bad Dr Z doesn’t take his own advice.

Enjoy your racism

 

[DrZoidberg]

But isn’t she an antisemitic apologist for Hamas?

This is not somebody who has changed her mind because of how the war is being conducted or whatever. She is a left-wing academic who has been against this war from the beginning, as can be seen here.

FYI, the left and left wing academics in Israel are also retarded about the conflict, just as the left in the west.

Its like the Israeli left has lost the will for self preservation. At a time when Israel, more than ever needs to fight for its survival. The whole world is turning on it for trying to survive, and they're surrounded by a million Muslims just waiting for an opportunity to crush them

 

[ZiprHead]

Stop talking shit

In other words "I have no answer for your intelligent point."

Too bad Dr Z doesn’t take his own advice.

Enjoy your racism

Israel is not obliged to help them in that goal.

 

[laughing dog]

But isn’t she an antisemitic apologist for Hamas?

This is not somebody who has changed her mind because of how the war is being conducted or whatever. She is a left-wing academic who has been against this war from the beginning, as can be seen here.

That doesn’t answer the question.

Being against the war doesn’t mean one thinks the IDF is committing genocide.

 

[laughing dog]

Stop talking shit

In other words "I have no answer for your intelligent point."

Too bad Dr Z doesn’t take his own advice.

Enjoy your racism

I’d ask what actual fact(s) prompted that slander, but I’m not interested in reading vile stupidity.

If you bothered to read my posts, you would know I don’t agree that Israel is committing genocide. To my eyes, it looks more and more like ethnic cleansing that you support.

 

[TomC]

Israel is not obliged to help them in that goal.

Yes they are. Unless they want to help with the real goal of the Islamic supremacists.
Ethnic cleansing of Israel.
Tom

 

[DrZoidberg]

Stop talking shit

In other words "I have no answer for your intelligent point."

Too bad Dr Z doesn’t take his own advice.

Enjoy your racism

I’d ask what actual fact(s) prompted that slander, but I’m not interested in reading vile stupidity.

If you bothered to read my posts, you would know I don’t agree that Israel is committing genocide. To my eyes, it looks more and more like ethnic cleansing that you support.

You are free to have your opinions. I am free to have mine

 

[DrZoidberg]

Hamas is so desperate to be able to control the UN aid into Gaza that they're now starving remaining hostages as blackmail.

If they really cared about the Palestinian people they would let the US and Israeli aid to just get on with delivering aid unimpeded.

Videos of emaciated hostages condemned as Red Cross calls for access

Hamas said it would allow Red Cross access if humanitarian aid corridors were opened into Gaza.

www.bbc.com

These are the guys so many of you support

Enjoy your shame for being on the wrong side of history

 

[DrZoidberg]

Just remember... Israel are the bad guys. Ie, the ONLY power in the Middle-East who treats everyone with decency

 

[DrZoidberg]

Here's my prediction. The people here criticising Israel is to caught up in their hatred of Jews to give a shit about the genocide on Druze going on now. That’s an actual genocide. Not the fantasy one you keep getting upset about

Please get out of your poisoned media bubble and reenter the real world. Please. The world needs people to stand up for democracy, freedom and personal liberties, as much now as in 1930'ies. Its bad right now.

 

[ZiprHead]

When there’s a group of innocent people being targeted purely for who they are, it’s our duty to speak up.

Irony is dead.

 

[scombrid]

Stop talking shit

In other words "I have no answer for your intelligent point."

Too bad Dr Z doesn’t take his own advice.

Enjoy your racism

Heritage Foundation. About as trustworthy as Hamas and Bibbi.

 

[laughing dog]

Hamas is so desperate to be able to control the UN aid into Gaza that they're now starving remaining hostages as blackmail.

If they really cared about the Palestinian people they would let the US and Israeli aid to just get on with delivering aid unimpeded.

Videos of emaciated hostages condemned as Red Cross calls for access

Hamas said it would allow Red Cross access if humanitarian aid corridors were opened into Gaza.

www.bbc.com

These are the guys so many of you support

Enjoy your shame for being on the wrong side of history

Until you post an actual statement from a poster in this thread that supports Hamas, your persistent unsubstantiated claim is either a delusional slander or an outright lie.

 

[pood]

Hamas is so desperate to be able to control the UN aid into Gaza that they're now starving remaining hostages as blackmail.

If they really cared about the Palestinian people they would let the US and Israeli aid to just get on with delivering aid unimpeded.

Videos of emaciated hostages condemned as Red Cross calls for access

Hamas said it would allow Red Cross access if humanitarian aid corridors were opened into Gaza.

www.bbc.com

These are the guys so many of you support

Enjoy your shame for being on the wrong side of history

Nobody here supports Hamas. [removed]

You, otoh, support starving children.

 

[DrZoidberg]

Hamas is so desperate to be able to control the UN aid into Gaza that they're now starving remaining hostages as blackmail.

If they really cared about the Palestinian people they would let the US and Israeli aid to just get on with delivering aid unimpeded.

Videos of emaciated hostages condemned as Red Cross calls for access

Hamas said it would allow Red Cross access if humanitarian aid corridors were opened into Gaza.

www.bbc.com

These are the guys so many of you support

Enjoy your shame for being on the wrong side of history

Nobody here supports Hamas. Stop lying.

You, otoh, support starving children.

If there's a situation where there's only one credible force to stop Hamas and you go out of your way to twist facts around to prevent that force from doing just that, then you are supporting Hamas.

The idea that there's any third way forward is a complete fantasy. Hamas is that kind of opponent. They have on purpose created a situation where the only way to get to them is to wade through the blood of innocent Palestinian civilians, then the top priority should be to get rid of Hamas. Israel is doing just that.

Playing Hamas' game will of course, in the long run, lead to much more suffering, both for the Palestinians and Israelis.

Calling me a liar for calling you out on your hipocrisy is pretty rich.

I don't support the starving of children. But you know that

 

[scombrid]

Just have to break a few eggs.

 

[laughing dog]

Hamas is so desperate to be able to control the UN aid into Gaza that they're now starving remaining hostages as blackmail.

If they really cared about the Palestinian people they would let the US and Israeli aid to just get on with delivering aid unimpeded.

Videos of emaciated hostages condemned as Red Cross calls for access

Hamas said it would allow Red Cross access if humanitarian aid corridors were opened into Gaza.

www.bbc.com

These are the guys so many of you support

Enjoy your shame for being on the wrong side of history

Nobody here supports Hamas. Stop lying.

You, otoh, support starving children.

If there's a situation where there's only one credible force to stop Hamas and you go out of your way to twist facts around to prevent that force from doing just that, then you are supporting Hamas.

The idea that there's any third way forward is a complete fantasy. Hamas is that kind of opponent. They have on purpose created a situation where the only way to get to them is to wade through the blood of innocent Palestinian civilians, then the top priority should be to get rid of Hamas. Israel is doing just that.

. That involves malnourishing the Gazan population which includes children.

I don't support the starving of children. But you know that

But we cannot becausr you defend the very policy that does lead to starvation (ser above).