How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[bilby]

What garbage. Nato hasn't invaded a single inch of Russian land.

They absolutely did and did so multiple times in this century, last century and century before that.

OMG, those evil geniuses at NATO have developed time travel!

And used it to invade Russia in the nineteenth century, even though NATO didn't exist until 1949!

Is there nothing these NATO scientists can't do?? I suggest you just surrender now, before they go back and shoot your great-great-great grandfather, and you simply cease to exist.


Either that, or you could just reflect on how severely your claims have departed from reality. Though to be honest, at this stage it seems more likely that NATO have a time travel weapon than it does that you will reflect upon the absurdity of your claims.

Yep, 19 century NATO consisting of France and GB woke up one day and decided to invade Russia.

This is nonsense on stilts. It's eerily remeniscent of "We have always been at war with Oceania"; A bare faced propaganda claim.

NATO has absolutely no commonality with France in 1812, or with the UK of 1853-6. There isn't even a shred of continuity; in 1891, France became a full ally of Russia in the aptly named Franco-Russian Alliance which remained in place until the Great War. Following their alignment with France in 1904 (The Entente Cordiale), the UK officially joined with Russia and France in 1907 to form the Triple Entente.

The Anglo-Russian Convention of 1907(Russian: Англо-Русская Конвенция 1907 г., romanized: Anglo-Russkaya Konventsiya 1907 g.), or Convention between the United Kingdom and Russia relating to Persia, Afghanistan, and Tibet (Конвенция между Соединенным Королевством и Россией относительно Персии, Афганистана, и Тибета; Konventsiya mezhdu Soyedinennym Korolevstvom i Rossiyey otnositel'no Persii, Afghanistana, i Tibeta), was signed on 31 August 1907, in Saint Petersburg. It ended the two powers' longstanding rivalry in Central Asia and enabled them to outflank the Germans, who were threatening to connect Berlin to Baghdad with a new railroad that could potentially align the Ottoman Empire with Imperial Germany.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Russian_Convention

Russia, France and the UK fought as allies against Germany, Austria-Hungary, and the Ottoman Empire, from 1914 to 1917.

Your simplistic propaganda is absurd and counterfactual. No sane person with any knowledge if history would buy into this tale of persecution; But even if it were true (it's not), it wouldn't justify the current Russian agression against Ukraine.

Mad Vlad has no right to invade neighbours, and fairy tales about centuries of persecution wouldn't be justification even if they weren't nonsense.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Words of wisdom from the IDIOTUS.

In a post on his own social media platform, Mr. Trump said Thursday — without mentioning the latest violence in the war — that it was "very hard, if not impossible, to win a war without attacking an invaders country. ... There is no chance of winning! It is like that with Ukraine and Russia."

You need to invade Russia m'boys...

Meanwhile, Russia apparently targeted a US electronics factory in Ukraine... Putin going balls deep now on Trump.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[TV and credit cards]

From Politico.eu
Meet Flamingo, a big missile with a woman's touch

The unusual name and the missile's original color — a bright pink tip where the warhead is housed — were an internal company joke on the unheralded role of women in the male-dominated world of weapons and war.

“Our first missiles were pink; they passed all the tests pink, but then we had to change color because of military camouflage requirements. But the woman in charge of production is still there. Women's touch in missiles,” Terekh said.

The Flamingo could pose some real problems for macho Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

"I would say there is some sort of big dick energy moment. You don’t need a scary name for a missile that can fly 3,000 kilometers," Terekh said of the missile's claimed range. "The main goal is for a missile to be effective.”

A milestone for Ukraine that brought about Trump's comment (blessing):


And Fabian Hoffmann, a doctoral research fellow and missile expert at the University of Oslo said:

 

[barbos]

This is nonsense on stilts.

Nope. Collective Wet agressioin against Russia now has the same reasons that collective West had when they invaded Russia in 19 century - Russia was too big and strong for their liking.

 

[barbos]

I can't tell which is worse for you, spelling or geography. Ukraine is sovereign.

No, they are not and have never been. Their "economy" is pretty much 100% dependent on the West. Before that they relied on $10bil per year help from ..... Russia.

"Sovereign" does NOT mean "Financially independent". Ukraine is sovereign.

Actually it does mean i said. When you live on foreign aid you do what givers tell you to do.

 

[barbos]

So you should be happy you no longer have to fund Ukraine.

I want our $250bil back and I want Ukraine back too.

You're flailing like a drowning person who will take anyone they can grab down with them.

You are describing yourself.

 

[Harry Bosch]

From Politico.eu
Meet Flamingo, a big missile with a woman's touch

The unusual name and the missile's original color — a bright pink tip where the warhead is housed — were an internal company joke on the unheralded role of women in the male-dominated world of weapons and war.

“Our first missiles were pink; they passed all the tests pink, but then we had to change color because of military camouflage requirements. But the woman in charge of production is still there. Women's touch in missiles,” Terekh said.

The Flamingo could pose some real problems for macho Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

"I would say there is some sort of big dick energy moment. You don’t need a scary name for a missile that can fly 3,000 kilometers," Terekh said of the missile's claimed range. "The main goal is for a missile to be effective.”

A milestone for Ukraine that brought about Trump's comment (blessing):
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And Fabian Hoffmann, a doctoral research fellow and missile expert at the University of Oslo said:
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Oh yea, the Russians will whine about the deep strikes into their areas (forgetting all the damage and misery that they put on Ukraine! I think that Trump is finally seeing what Russia is. An imperialist bully that has to be stopped. Russia is now saying that they are open to peace keepers in Ukraine as long as they are controlled by Russia! So, Ukraine would be safe from invasion from the Luxemburg hordes; not from Ruskies! I've said it from the very beginning of this long long thread; Russia will not stop until it is stopped by China. The west needs to increase sanctions on countries that trade with Russia. Pressure needs to be applied on China and India. Do you guys want to do business with the west; or with Russia?

 

[ZiprHead]

So you should be happy you no longer have to fund Ukraine.

I want our $250bil back and I want Ukraine back too.

You're flailing like a drowning person who will take anyone they can grab down with them.

You are describing yourself.

 

[ZiprHead]

So you should be happy you no longer have to fund Ukraine.

I want our $250bil back and I want Ukraine back too.

You're flailing like a drowning person who will take anyone they can grab down with them.

You are describing yourself.

 

[barbos]

 

[barbos]

From Politico.eu
Meet Flamingo, a big missile with a woman's touch

The unusual name and the missile's original color — a bright pink tip where the warhead is housed — were an internal company joke on the unheralded role of women in the male-dominated world of weapons and war.

“Our first missiles were pink; they passed all the tests pink, but then we had to change color because of military camouflage requirements. But the woman in charge of production is still there. Women's touch in missiles,” Terekh said.

The Flamingo could pose some real problems for macho Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

"I would say there is some sort of big dick energy moment. You don’t need a scary name for a missile that can fly 3,000 kilometers," Terekh said of the missile's claimed range. "The main goal is for a missile to be effective.”

A milestone for Ukraine that brought about Trump's comment (blessing):
View attachment 51851

And Fabian Hoffmann, a doctoral research fellow and missile expert at the University of Oslo said:
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This nazi dumbass should talk to Glenn Diesen.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Oh yea, the Russians will whine about the deep strikes into their areas (forgetting all the damage and misery that they put on Ukraine! I think that Trump is finally seeing what Russia is. An imperialist bully that has to be stopped. Russia is now saying that they are open to peace keepers in Ukraine as long as they are controlled by Russia! So, Ukraine would be safe from invasion from the Luxemburg hordes; not from Ruskies! I've said it from the very beginning of this long long thread; Russia will not stop until it is stopped by China. The west needs to increase sanctions on countries that trade with Russia.

Globalism makes those sanctions kind of hard. Diplomacy would work better, but right now, the guy in charge of the US is pro-Russia taking over Ukraine.

Pressure needs to be applied on China and India. Do you guys want to do business with the west; or with Russia?

With all of the off-shoring the West has done, that seems like a rather transparent bluff.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

This is nonsense on stilts.

Nope. Collective Wet agressioin against Russia now has the same reasons that collective West had when they invaded Russia in 19 century - Russia was too big and strong for their liking.

You guys invaded the Ottomans. You miscalculated the British/French response. And your shitty military got their asses handed to them.

 

[barbos]

This is nonsense on stilts.

Nope. Collective Wet agressioin against Russia now has the same reasons that collective West had when they invaded Russia in 19 century - Russia was too big and strong for their liking.

You guys invaded the Ottomans. You miscalculated the British/French response. And your shitty military got their asses handed to them.

Yes, we liberated Slavic countries and Greece from Ottoman occupation GB/France did not like it.
And fuck GB and France of that and this time.
And the reasons behind decisions to invade Russia were now then as I said were the same - Russia is too strong and big.
As for our shitty military, we won eventually, your shitty military left Crimea in the end.

 

[barbos]

The first victim of great Russo-Latvian war:

 

[zorq]

I can't tell which is worse for you, spelling or geography. Ukraine is sovereign.

No, they are not and have never been. Their "economy" is pretty much 100% dependent on the West. Before that they relied on $10bil per year help from ..... Russia.

"Sovereign" does NOT mean "Financially independent". Ukraine is sovereign.

Actually it does mean i said. When you live on foreign aid you do what givers tell you to do.

And when they start taking aid from some one else you think that gives you the right to murder them.

You are literally the most disgusting amoral sociopath I have ever met on the internet. (That is a high bar)

Congratulations.

Your repulsive distortion of the word "sovereign" doesn't even come close to the depravity you advocate for every day. I feel sorry for whatever innocent Russians remain in Russia as you are one of their unelected representatives who is constantly vandalizing and desecrating their sane and benevolent characters.

 

[barbos]

And when they start taking aid from some one else you think that gives you the right to murder them.

Yes, they took "aid" from "someone" else and used it to kill russians (in accordance with aid instructions). Hence we not only have to murder them now but it is our duty.
When that scum was taking money from us it was implied that they would behave friendly.
But we were mistaken. Uncle Sam came, found nazi scum, gave them $6bil in order to get into power in order to cause Russia all kinds of problems. We should have been more pro-active and should have dealt with it much earlier, but this is a typical national character flaw in Russia, we always hope that problem will go away by itself. Russian policy should be more cognizant of US government actions in border countries Russia has significant ties with. We should apply counter measures of all kinds to US/EU influence if it goes against Russian interests.

 

[barbos]

You are literally the most disgusting amoral sociopath I have ever met on the internet. (That is a high bar)

No, it's actually you.

 

[barbos]

Your repulsive distortion of the word "sovereign"

No, it's your repulsive insistence that "sovereign" trumps everything.
By your logic US should not have invaded Nazi Germany. And go lecture Serbia about sovereignty.