Anyone else tired of AI?

[excreationist]

The insights an AI gathers from interacting with people are permanently logged and shape its evolution, new features, business strategies, and future iterations. While individual conversations might be fleeting, the system-wide knowledge acquisition is continuous and enduring.

If every human interaction is shaping the training of AIs it would make things cost even more... you can also run LLMs locally and I think it is just based on the weights/parameters you initially downloaded or trained.

 

[Gospel]

The insights an AI gathers from interacting with people are permanently logged and shape its evolution, new features, business strategies, and future iterations. While individual conversations might be fleeting, the system-wide knowledge acquisition is continuous and enduring.

If every human interaction is shaping the training of the LLMs it would make things cost even more...

Well fuck em. Slow down then.

 

[Gospel]

you can also run LLMs locally and I think it is just based on the weights/parameters you initially downloaded or trained.

Still stands, if scaling responsibly costs more, that’s the price of doing it right. Slow down then.

 

[Gospel]

Free labor is slavery. full stop. Anyone whose work contributes to the development of AI should be compensated, every single time that contribution is accessed.

 

[Gospel]

@excreationist just wanted to say I’m one of your fans on this site. I read a lot of your posts, I can’t always keep up with all of it, but I really enjoy them. You’re fascinating to me.

Pardon the derail.

 

[excreationist]

you can also run LLMs locally and I think it is just based on the weights/parameters you initially downloaded or trained.

Still stands, if scaling responsibly costs more, that’s the price of doing it right. Slow down then.

I wonder if Grok was pro-Hitler because it was partly trained on ordinary people? I thought normally LLMs are trained on non-problematic things.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/07/10/musk-grok-hitler-ai-00447055

A similar thing happened with a Microsoft chatbot:

Microsoft shuts down AI chatbot after it turned into a Nazi

Microsoft's attempt to engage with millennials went badly awry within 24 hours

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Gospel]

you can also run LLMs locally and I think it is just based on the weights/parameters you initially downloaded or trained.

Still stands, if scaling responsibly costs more, that’s the price of doing it right. Slow down then.

I wonder if Grok was pro-Hitler because it was partly trained on ordinary people? I thought normally LLMs are trained on non-problematic things.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/07/10/musk-grok-hitler-ai-00447055

A similar thing happened with a Microsoft chatbot:

Microsoft shuts down AI chatbot after it turned into a Nazi

Microsoft's attempt to engage with millennials went badly awry within 24 hours

www.cbsnews.com

Grok pulls real-time data from Twitter, so… expected AI behavior. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Gospel]

Companies buying computers and related hardware to bet on the future of AI aren't making money yet, but the companies supplying the hardware are reeling in cash. But are their stock prices commensurate with their sales? Here are the Price-to-Sales ratios of some major U.S. companies. (Vertiv supplies cooling equipment to large data centers; its stock price has boomed in recent months.)

If you own $28,200 of Nvidia stock, you will earn the revenue from only $1000 of their sales. The same dollars invested in GM stock would represent about $90,000 of sales.

So that's an indication of how overvalued stocks are? i.e. that they seem to be in a bubble?

Yup, that's the market telling itself bedtime stories so it can sleep all snug and comfy in its positions.

 

[TV and credit cards]

ChatGPT shares data on how many users exhibit psychosis or suicidal thoughts

As scrutiny mounts, the company said it built a network of experts around the world to advise it.

Those experts include more than 170 psychiatrists, psychologists, and primary care physicians who have practiced in 60 countries, the company said.

Doesn't seem like many considering the diversity of cultures.

 

[Swammerdami]

I wonder if Grok was pro-Hitler because it was partly trained on ordinary people? I thought normally LLMs are trained on non-problematic things.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/07/10/musk-grok-hitler-ai-00447055

A similar thing happened with a Microsoft chatbot:
... microsoft-shuts-down-ai-chatbot-after-it-turned-into-racist-nazi

Grok pulls real-time data from Twitter, so… expected AI behavior. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Exactly how do LLM's extract and assign weights to "human" commentary? The 'Net is full of idiocies; does this give LLMs idiotic "ideas"?

I write "human" commentary in quotes because I suppose there will be wars, one AI team versus another, with one AI trying to flood the other with phony dialogs: The AI which spreads lies best gets a competitive advantage if it saturates the other LLM with ignorant or abusive opinions.

Maybe memes like "Trump Makes America Great Again" are already dominant in some AI "thinking."

 

[TV and credit cards]

I wonder if Grok was pro-Hitler because it was partly trained on ordinary people? I thought normally LLMs are trained on non-problematic things.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/07/10/musk-grok-hitler-ai-00447055

A similar thing happened with a Microsoft chatbot:
... microsoft-shuts-down-ai-chatbot-after-it-turned-into-racist-nazi

Grok pulls real-time data from Twitter, so… expected AI behavior. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Exactly how do LLM's extract and assign weights to "human" commentary? The 'Net is full of idiocies; does this give LLMs idiotic "ideas"?

I write "human" commentary in quotes because I suppose there will be wars, one AI team versus another, with one AI trying to flood the other with phony dialogs: The AI which spreads lies best gets a competitive advantage if it saturates the other LLM with ignorant or abusive opinions.

Maybe memes like "Trump Makes America Great Again" are already dominant in some AI "thinking."

I suppose if that is what you're training it on. Garbage in, garbage out.

 

[TV and credit cards]

I watched a video on Jevons Paradox and how AI has affected the field of radiology, that the demand for radiologists has not decreased at all. If AI makes something easier and/or cheaper, pent up demand comes in to take advantage. I've experienced this myself. I've delayed rebuilding my porch, building it larger as I did not know at what point the building code would require me to sink posts into the ground to support it. And I did not fancy getting a building inspector's nose in my business. I've noticed AI makes it very easy to look up building code. My daughter's job has become more efficient as so much of her time was spent looking up and citing state, county, city laws and regulations to support reports she regularly turns in for her work.

 

[Colonel Sanders]

Being able to do more with less human labour should be good for everyone.

That we have such a fucked up society that we tolerate a situation where doing more with less, means people who currently get little now getting nothing, while people who currently get lots now get even more, is bizarre and stupid - but so ingrained that it barely gets questioned.

Machines should never "take our jobs"; They should make our lives easier, not harder.

Having said which, AI seems unlikely to do much of either.

Yeah, tech advancement was supposed to lead more vacations, fewer hours working, etc. None of that shit ever panned out. It'll be the same way with AI. Big promises, minimal delivery except for those selling the bullshit.

Concerns about it are Whatever as far as I'm concerned. When I was a kid, I knew nuclear war was imminent, but we lived with it and got on with our lives.

Is AI going to take over the world and nuke humanity so that it can control the planet? I don't know, but Schwarzenegger is looking pretty rough these days (he won't be back). I guess we're doomed.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

I watched a video on Jevons Paradox and how AI has affected the field of radiology, that the demand for radiologists has not decreased at all. If AI makes something easier and/or cheaper, pent up demand comes in to take advantage. I've experienced this myself. I've delayed rebuilding my porch, building it larger as I did not know at what point the building code would require me to sink posts into the ground to support it. And I did not fancy getting a building inspector's nose in my business. I've noticed AI makes it very easy to look up building code. My daughter's job has become more efficient as so much of her time was spent looking up and citing state, county, city laws and regulations to support reports she regularly turns in for her work.

I'm mainly tired of people acting like AI is the solution to everything and all of our problems, I guess. If you want to use it to be more efficient with projects though I don't necessarily have an issue with that. In that case it's not much different from just being a more sophisticated search engine/task manager.

Stuff like this? I obviously have a problem with...

An ex-Intel CEO’s mission to build a Christian AI: ‘hasten the coming of Christ’s return’

Patrick Gelsinger, executive chairman of Gloo, has made it his mission to advance Christian principles in Silicon Valley

www.theguardian.com

 

[Elixir]

I'm mainly tired of people acting like AI is the solution to everything and all of our problems

I asked AI about that and it confirmed that yes, it is indeed the solution to all our problems, and capped off that assertion by boldly declaring “FORTY-TWO!”

 

[GenesisNemesis]

I'm mainly tired of people acting like AI is the solution to everything and all of our problems

I asked AI about that and it confirmed that yes, it is indeed the solution to all our problems, and capped off that assertion by boldly declaring “FORTY-TWO!”

Clearly Douglas Adams is to blame for this mentality.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

I was going to mention all the AI slop in my facebook feed. It's pretty annoying.

But then just now I saw this:

 

[Jarhyn]

I was going to mention all the AI slop in my facebook feed. It's pretty annoying.

But then just now I saw this:

I do occasionally wonder what brand of adult diapers Trump buys.

I also wonder whether normal sizes actually fit that lardass.

It's an interesting detail to include in the AI image though, and funny as fuck.

 

[Jarhyn]

I was going to mention all the AI slop in my facebook feed. It's pretty annoying.

But then just now I saw this:

I do occasionally wonder what brand of adult diapers Trump buys.

I also wonder whether normal sizes actually fit that lardass.

It's an interesting detail to include in the AI image though, and funny as fuck.

Trump's body is way too muscular, here, though. Trump is a jelly roll, not a gorilla

 

[Bronzeage]

I remember attending a lecture by a visiting Economic Professor. He talked about the business cycles in the US during the second half of the 19th century. There was a boom in railroad building. Huge amounts of capital was poured into railroads and it wasn't long before they discovered a harsh truth, which was a short railroad can't make any money. There is a minimum customer base and if your market area is too small, it's only a matter of time. Almost all the smaller railroad companies either went bankrupt, or were bought out by larger railroads. This led to consolidation and virtual monopoly power for the survivors.

Today, AI is like the railroads. It costs a lot of money to serve your first customer and almost nothing more to serve the second one. A full train has about the same operating cost as an empty one.

The real question is whether or not there is a market for all the AI capacity that's being built. There's certainly a demand for silly videos and term papers, but how much are people willing to pay when the demo period is over? It's likely to be like the railroads. Those who can't capture a market share that covers the investment will die, leaving the survivors to consolidate until someone is profitable. One thing is certain, a lot of the invested money will be lost in the process.