For those of you who think MAGA Trump supporters are in a cult

[Loren Pechtel]

Al Jazeera reported that one of The Felon's incompetent appointments said something. In this case, "accurate" but not remotely evidence that they spoke the truth.

Just to bring closure to this sub-subthread, let me summarize it:

• Al Jazeera reported, correctly, that Tulsi Gabbard made some claims.
• Al Jazeera reported, correctly, that Tulsi Gabbard's claims were probably false.
• The topic of this sub-subthread is: Is Al Jazeera's English-language website a reliable source (when they are NOT discussing Israel)?

It's hard to be sure but I think Loren is conceding that Al Jazeera is relatively reliable.

Got one right should be normal, it's not evidence of reliability.

 

[Swammerdami]

Just to bring closure to this sub-subthread, let me summarize it:

• Al Jazeera reported, correctly, that Tulsi Gabbard made some claims.
• Al Jazeera reported, correctly, that Tulsi Gabbard's claims were probably false.
• The topic of this sub-subthread is: Is Al Jazeera's English-language website a reliable source (when they are NOT discussing Israel)?

It's hard to be sure but I think Loren is conceding that Al Jazeera is relatively reliable.

Got one right should be normal, it's not evidence of reliability.

No. As already pointed out, the EVIDENCE is the researched opinion of Ad Fontes Media, whose business model is objective evaluation. It is NOT a left-wing mouth-piece: Fox News Live is shown with very high reliability. (Fox News Web is way behind Fox News Live but still ahead of the Rachel Maddow Show in reliability according to Ad Fontes Media.)

... you use RVonse's total misrepresentation to help confirm your bias against a website (as graded by  Ad Fontes Media) roughly as reliable as CNN: The Situation Room, slightly more reliable than Newsweek, and WAY ahead of CBS: 60 Minutes in reliability.

Ad Fontes Media, Inc. is a Colorado-based, media watchdog, public benefit corporation,[1] primarily known for its Media Bias Chart, which rates media sources in terms of political bias and reliability. The organization was founded in 2018 by patent attorney Vanessa Otero with the goal of combating political polarization and media bias. Ad Fontes Media uses a panel of analysts across the political spectrum to evaluate articles for the Chart.[2][3] The chart markets its analysis to advertisers looking for third-party rankings of news sources in assessing brand safety ...

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Just to bring closure to this sub-subthread, let me summarize it:

• Al Jazeera reported, correctly, that Tulsi Gabbard made some claims.
• Al Jazeera reported, correctly, that Tulsi Gabbard's claims were probably false.
• The topic of this sub-subthread is: Is Al Jazeera's English-language website a reliable source (when they are NOT discussing Israel)?

It's hard to be sure but I think Loren is conceding that Al Jazeera is relatively reliable.

Got one right should be normal, it's not evidence of reliability.

No. As already pointed out, the EVIDENCE is the researched opinion of Ad Fontes Media, whose business model is objective evaluation. It is NOT a left-wing mouth-piece: Fox News Live is shown with very high reliability. (Fox News Web is way behind Fox News Live but still ahead of the Rachel Maddow Show in reliability according to Ad Fontes Media.)

... you use RVonse's total misrepresentation to help confirm your bias against a website (as graded by  Ad Fontes Media) roughly as reliable as CNN: The Situation Room, slightly more reliable than Newsweek, and WAY ahead of CBS: 60 Minutes in reliability.

Ad Fontes Media, Inc. is a Colorado-based, media watchdog, public benefit corporation,[1] primarily known for its Media Bias Chart, which rates media sources in terms of political bias and reliability. The organization was founded in 2018 by patent attorney Vanessa Otero with the goal of combating political polarization and media bias. Ad Fontes Media uses a panel of analysts across the political spectrum to evaluate articles for the Chart.[2][3] The chart markets its analysis to advertisers looking for third-party rankings of news sources in assessing brand safety ...

Al Jazeera used to be good. Past tense.

 

[Gospel]

Opinions have only ever been just that, opinions. Present tense.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

As for firing of Dr. McEntarfer I think Trump was an absolute moron for doing this. If anything the problem has been early reporting being too optimistic before all the facts come in. Trump has just formally told the world that US government stats can not be trusted at all in the future. He has told the world that politics takes priority over telling the truth...not that I ever believed reports given from any administration anyway.

Are you getting a hint of why we object to The Felon?

And note that things are playing out pretty much as we expected. Doesn't that suggest that the rest of what we've predicted is also likely to be right?

But Trump (for all his many faults) has also proven the left were and are still horribly wrong. On the most important things that count:

Yes... for all of Trump's faults, he is right about everything!

 

[Patooka]

Holy fuck; I just realised how much the MAGA cult are silent about the Epstein Files are right now...

...must be a coincidence ...

 

[Patooka]

Nope. MAGA is just a bunch of cunts cult. Just figured it out. I'm smart like that.

 

[ZiprHead]

Not a cult.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[southernhybrid]

If you're ever had a discussion with a serious MAGA, you know they are in a cult. One told me last week that Trump was the greatest president we ever had. Another one told me that he's done great things for the country, and then I changed the subject. You can't reason with these people. I'm not talking about the ones who realize they made a mistake by voting for Trump. I'm talking about all the remaining ones who still see Trump as their hero, their savior, the greatest president ever etc. The one thing that Trump was right about was when he said he could kill someone on 5th Ave. and his supporters, aka cult would still support him.

And yes. The ones I know personally watch Newmax, which I refer to as Fox on steroids. Actually, I think some pundit used that term, but he was right.

 

[ZiprHead]

Not a cult.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[ZiprHead]

Not a cult

Kristi Noem: "Sir, you made it through hurricane season without a hurricane. You kept the hurricanes away. We appreciate that."

 

[Spacetime Inhabitant]

Not a cult

Kristi Noem: "Sir, you made it through hurricane season without a hurricane. You kept the hurricanes away. We appreciate that."

The power of the sharpie. I use my juju to make the hurricanes disappear.
Noem is certifiable.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

 

[Patooka]

A cult is a group or movement with a strong focus on a charismatic leader or ideology, often characterized by excessive devotion, manipulation, and isolation from the outside world. Yet right now in real time we see ultra tight MAGA supporters up in arms over the Trump's administration handling of the Epstein client list. In particular that no one has been exposed or sent to jail for sex crimes. That Trump is covering up and that no one is asking or investigating Israel involvement in the matter. This isn't the first time MAGA has stood directly against Trump but it appears to be the most obvious IMO. To call MAGA a cult is a ridiculous thing to say considering members like Musk and Tucker Carlson are openly criticizing their leader. That is not how cults behave.

You can not be a cult if you are not devoted to your leader. It is the platform he ran on that they were and are still devoted to.

This is how we know RVonse is part pf a cult.

 

[Jarhyn]

A cult is a group or movement with a strong focus on a charismatic leader or ideology, often characterized by excessive devotion, manipulation, and isolation from the outside world. Yet right now in real time we see ultra tight MAGA supporters up in arms over the Trump's administration handling of the Epstein client list. In particular that no one has been exposed or sent to jail for sex crimes. That Trump is covering up and that no one is asking or investigating Israel involvement in the matter. This isn't the first time MAGA has stood directly against Trump but it appears to be the most obvious IMO. To call MAGA a cult is a ridiculous thing to say considering members like Musk and Tucker Carlson are openly criticizing their leader. That is not how cults behave. <Snip>

You can not be a cult if you are not devoted to your leader. It is the platform he ran on that they were and are still devoted to.

This is how we know RVonse is part pf a cult.

What, him finding an excuse to have watched and post a video of a Nazi attacking Israel as proof not all Nazis worship Temu Hitler.

Newsflash: Nazis aren't bad just because Temu Hitler is bad.

 

[ZiprHead]

Billionaire Trump Donor Closing U.S. Plant and Moving Work to China

“They’re not answering or returning anyone’s calls,” said the local union leader.

newrepublic.com

One of President Trump’s oldest donors is closing a manufacturing plant in Ohio and moving it to China, a slap in the face to the American workers he claimed to be fighting for.

Hedge fund billionaire John Paulson plans to offshore the East Lake, Ohio, plant of Conn Selmer, the largest U.S. manufacturer of brass and orchestra instruments.
“We can’t have American producers closing American factories and offshoring. We need to protect American jobs and protect American manufacturing,” Paulson said just last year.

 

[bilby]

Billionaire Trump Donor Closing U.S. Plant and Moving Work to China

“They’re not answering or returning anyone’s calls,” said the local union leader.

newrepublic.com

One of President Trump’s oldest donors is closing a manufacturing plant in Ohio and moving it to China, a slap in the face to the American workers he claimed to be fighting for.

Hedge fund billionaire John Paulson plans to offshore the East Lake, Ohio, plant of Conn Selmer, the largest U.S. manufacturer of brass and orchestra instruments.
“We can’t have American producers closing American factories and offshoring. We need to protect American jobs and protect American manufacturing,” Paulson said just last year.

"They're not answering or returning anyone's calls" - well, they probably don't want to blow their own trumpet...