How should west respond to potential (likely) U.S. invasion of Venezuela?

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

More information about the oil tanker seizure:

Satellite images suggest seized tanker 'deliberately' manipulated location data

An ABC News analysis of satellite imagery and tracking data shows the oil tanker seized by the United States off the coast of Venezuela on Wednesday may have manipulated its location data -- an apparent attempt, experts said, to circumvent restrictions imposed by sanctions.

The crude oil tanker, named the "The Skipper," according to four people familiar with the operation, was sanctioned by the U.S. in 2022.

Digital broadcast signals emitted from the vessel’s transponder and tracked by analytics company Kpler placed the Skipper near Guyana’s offshore between November and December. However, more than a dozen satellite images verified by ABC News confirmed Skipper was in fact operating in waters off the coast of Barcelona, Venezuela, around 550 miles away during this same period.

Is that supposed to mean it was okay to pirate an oil tanker?

If I felt my ship was threatened by a hostile military force, I too would give serious consideration to "spoofing" my position as a defensive measure.

It turned out not to work, but I can't fault the captain for trying.

Just because The Felon is being a bad guy doesn't make the tanker a good guy. Note it was sanctioned in 2022.

And spoofing your position won't do much against the US military. It's a tactic you use against cops, it's not of much use against a modern military with airborne radar.

Both sides are wrong here.

Engaging in restricted commerce isn't necessarily immoral. It might be. Consider that this is necessarily commerce and part of that is resources going to a population that needs it. It might be corrupted or there might be weapons or drugs or Chinese or Iranians involved, but we haven't really seen any substantiated evidence. The jury is still out. Consider also that the embargo is now on ALL oil tankers. Would you wager that every single one was a bad actor?

 

[Elixir]

the embargo is now on ALL oil tankers

"All your oil are belong to us."
I cannot befuckinglieve ANYONE can mistake this charade for anything but supersized grand theft oil.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

U.S. boards un-sanctioned tanker with Venezuelan oil to tighten blockade​

The U.S. military early Saturday boarded a tanker that is not under U.S. sanctions as it shipped Venezuelan oil in hopes of escaping a blockade imposed by President Trump, according to two sources familiar with the action.

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• "Even if we don't seize the oil, it's telling everyone who decides to play this game that we're going to interdict you at will," the source said. "Who is going to want to take that risk?"

 

[robnisch]

MSN

WTHF!
Does tRump have a plan?
Just take all the oil you want.

 

[crazyfingers]

MSN

WTHF!
Does tRump have a plan?
Just take all the oil you want.

He talks like a 5 year old.

 

[robnisch]

MSN

WTHF!
Does tRump have a plan?
Just take all the oil you want.

He talks like a 5 year old.

Check out Mary Trump's story about Donny and the mash potatoes.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

The CIA drone strike against a port is allegedly about gangs and drugs, but since they are stopping oil, a port is also a prime candidate for the oil tanker they were tracking.

 

[SLD]

Well. The son of a bitch did it. Now what?

 

[Ford]

Well. The son of a bitch did it. Now what?

 

[ZiprHead]

Holy crap!!!

Rubio says US not at war with Venezuela, as Maduro set to appear in New York court on Monday

The secretary of state says the US will retain "multiple levers of leverage" if Venezuela's leaders don't "make the right decisions".

www.bbc.com

 

[ZiprHead]

Don Jr's gonna be pissed when his stash runs out.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Holy crap!!!

Rubio says US not at war with Venezuela, as Maduro set to appear in New York court on Monday

The secretary of state says the US will retain "multiple levers of leverage" if Venezuela's leaders don't "make the right decisions".

www.bbc.com

I see your “Holy crap!!!” and raise you a Jesus H Christ!

 

[southernhybrid]

Holy crap!!!

Rubio says US not at war with Venezuela, as Maduro set to appear in New York court on Monday

The secretary of state says the US will retain "multiple levers of leverage" if Venezuela's leaders don't "make the right decisions".

www.bbc.com

I see your “Holy crap!!!” and raise you a Jesus H Christ!

I think you meant Jesus F Christ. There is no way this will have a happy ending. The no wars president seems to enjoy starting wars. But, what can we expect from a demented maniac!

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Trump keeps getting to do whatever he wants. Maduro sucks a lot. But Trump sucks quite a bit too. This Admin isn't exactly the A team when it comes to executing a viable plan.

There will likely be no repercussions from this in the US but what happens in Venezuela? Who are the top foljs who pushed hin to do this in the first place. Is the Government of Colombia getting worried avout the mad dog at the White House?

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

Holy crap!!!

Rubio says US not at war with Venezuela, as Maduro set to appear in New York court on Monday

The secretary of state says the US will retain "multiple levers of leverage" if Venezuela's leaders don't "make the right decisions".

www.bbc.com

I see your “Holy crap!!!” and raise you a Jesus H Christ!

I think you meant Jesus F Christ. There is no way this will have a happy ending. The no wars president seems to enjoy starting wars. But, what can we expect from a demented maniac!

Bush sent 24,000 troops to Panama to grab Noriega, who was prosecuted for the same things. I guess numb nuts gets credit for being more surgical.

But if he moves to take over the oil supply, most of which goes to China, that’s when it will get interesting.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Holy crap!!!

Rubio says US not at war with Venezuela, as Maduro set to appear in New York court on Monday

The secretary of state says the US will retain "multiple levers of leverage" if Venezuela's leaders don't "make the right decisions".

www.bbc.com

Maduro has been indicted in New York on drugs and weapons charges, Attorney General Pam Bondi says, adding he will "face the full wrath of American justice on American soil in American courts"

Weapons charges? I thought they claim everyone has a right to arms.

 

[Elixir]

I told you so
I told you so
I told you so

Toddler with big toys want oil. And a piss prize.

 

[Elixir]

But, what can we expect from a demented maniac!

Normally, impeachment.

 

[lostone]

Holy crap!!!

Rubio says US not at war with Venezuela, as Maduro set to appear in New York court on Monday

The secretary of state says the US will retain "multiple levers of leverage" if Venezuela's leaders don't "make the right decisions".

www.bbc.com

I see your “Holy crap!!!” and raise you a Jesus H Christ!

I think you meant Jesus F Christ. There is no way this will have a happy ending. The no wars president seems to enjoy starting wars. But, what can we expect from a demented maniac!

Bush sent 24,000 troops to Panama to grab Noriega, who was prosecuted for the same things. I guess numb nuts gets credit for being more surgical.

But if he moves to take over the oil supply, most of which goes to China, that’s when it will get interesting.

Will this action encourage China to seize Taiwan? As a Quid Pro Quid?

 

[Toni]

OMFG