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The Cold Blooded Murder Of Renee Good

 
 
 
zorq said:
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The officer wasn't in front of the car for any of the three shots fired.


Only one of the shots fired at Ms. Good entered through the windshield and it entered from near the corner.


Speculative angles, but not unreasonable.


The closeup frame from the first shot.


The closeup frame from the last shot.



There have been cases where police moved out of the way of moving vehicle and still exercised deadly force.

Cordova vs Aragon (2009): “Where the officer had moved out of the way of the oncoming vehicle, the use of deadly force was not justified.”

Adam’s vs. Speers (2020): “Once Speers was no longer in the path of the vehicle, the justification for the use of deadly force ended.”

Orn vs. City of Tacoma (2019): “A reasonable jury could conclude that once Orn was no longer in the car’s trajectory, the threat of serious physical harm to him was eliminated.”

Villanueva vs. Cali (2021): “a reasonable jury could conclude that the Officers used excessive force, because they lacked an objectively reasonable basis to fear for their own safety, as they could simply have stepped back or to the side to avoid being injured.”
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I heard he actually reached around on the first shot. Not sure of the validity but based on your pictures, it does seem feasible.
 
barbos said:
I look at two videos from different angles and can't make sense of them.
The second (grainy) video shows her actually hitting that ICE agent.
The first shows him easily avoiding her car while shooting it. Yes, I know that the agent is behind another one.
And it looks that she and her girlfriend went there with the specific goal of harassing ICE and taking video of it.
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Actually it shows nothing but him losing his grip on his phone.
 
I listened to an interview with  Mimi Rocah yesterday morning, She spoke with several FBI agents who shadowed ICE agents for a time. They said someone is going to get killed because they don't know what they are doing. This was just demonstrated.
 
ZiprHead said:
I listened to an interview with  Mimi Rocah yesterday morning, She spoke with several FBI agents who shadowed ICE agents for a time. They said someone is going to get killed because they don't know what they are doing. This was just demonstrated.
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And will be again and again.

ICE is a prime example of militarization and politicalization of police force. We should all be horrified, and terrified.

That poem by Pastor Martin Niemoller isn’t a long one…

And furious.

I’m an old middle class white woman, the kind who look like the girl/mom/grandmother next door, depending on your age. Innocuous looking, insignificant. It would probably be a long time before they came for me.

But that’s not the point. I’m horrified and terrified and mostly furious that it has taken so very little for this country to revert back to the very worst parts of us. Trump is malignant. So are his followers.

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The killer ICE agent has gotten over 400 thousand dollars donated to him for his Go Fund Me.

WTF is wrong with people???
 
I'm just surprised it took this long. Now, with Trumpco being 100% supportive of it, it's difficult to see how it won't get worse. I'd say it's shock but it was inevitable.

Incompetently trained, low IQ assholes with hatred and bloodlust will take this as permission to start gunning more people down. I'd speculate on how past POTUS's would've reacted to this but it would an exercise in the obvious. Also, ICE wouldn't be out occupying state territory in the first place.
 
ZiprHead said:
The killer ICE agent has gotten over 400 thousand dollars donated to him for his Go Fund Me.

WTF is wrong with people???
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The right-wing media has done such a good job of dehumanizing the left-wing and immigrants whether here legally or not. We aren't people to them.
Colonel Sanders said:
I'm just surprised it took this long. Now, with Trumpco being 100% supportive of it, it's difficult to see how it won't get worse. I'd say it's shock but it was inevitable.

Incompetently trained, low IQ assholes with hatred and bloodlust will take this as permission to start gunning more people down. I'd speculate on how past POTUS's would've reacted to this but it would an exercise in the obvious. Also, ICE wouldn't be out occupying state territory in the first place.
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What is so bothersome is less the violence and more the Us v Them attitude ICE has with people. This adversarial relationship is very unhealthy.

Had the police responded in likewise force against the January 6th protesters, scores of people would have been killed.
 
barbos said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
Had the police responded in likewise force against the January 6th protesters, scores of people would have been killed.
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I don't see any sixers using cars during storming. And police we know was outnumbered and could not do anything.
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The police did do something: they stopped the invasion and saved many lives.

No one has been using vehicles against ICE. OTOH, ICE absolutely has been using vehicles against the general population. Not just guns, gusts, radars, pepper spray, etc.
 
Toni said:
barbos said:
Toni said:
barbos said:
Toni said:
No one has been using vehicles against ICE
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She clearly was using her SUV to block ICE.
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No, she was not.
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She clearly was. She was interfering and harassing.
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I understand that this is a very foreign concept to you but in the US, people have the right to assembly, and to observe and to protest.
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To be fair it's a foreign concept to many people here too.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
ZiprHead said:
The killer ICE agent has gotten over 400 thousand dollars donated to him for his Go Fund Me.

WTF is wrong with people???
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The right-wing media has done such a good job of dehumanizing the left-wing and immigrants whether here legally or not. We aren't people to them.
Colonel Sanders said:
I'm just surprised it took this long. Now, with Trumpco being 100% supportive of it, it's difficult to see how it won't get worse. I'd say it's shock but it was inevitable.

Incompetently trained, low IQ assholes with hatred and bloodlust will take this as permission to start gunning more people down. I'd speculate on how past POTUS's would've reacted to this but it would an exercise in the obvious. Also, ICE wouldn't be out occupying state territory in the first place.
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What is so bothersome is less the violence and more the Us v Them attitude ICE has with people. This adversarial relationship is very unhealthy.

Had the police responded in likewise force against the January 6th protesters, scores of people would have been killed.
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Yeah. Cliven Bundy et al are persecuted patriots but Renee Goode was a radical terrorist that deserved to be executed.
 
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