ICE murders another American.

[dannyk]

Random thought but I would love to see if any of the pardoned Jan 6 rioters now work for ICE

 

[Patooka]

Random thought but I would love to see if any of the pardoned Jan 6 rioters now work for ICE

Jaimie Raskin asked the same thing nearly a fortnight ago. This Administration still hasn't answered - which is an answer in and of itself

https://www.axios.com/2026/01/13/ice-trump-january-6-justice-department-dhs-jamie-raskin

How many Jan. 6 rioters work for the federal government? Raskin wants to find out

The Maryland Democrat also criticized Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents for wearing masks in a letter to the Trump administration that the Homeland Security Department called “reckless, disgusting and unhinged.”

www.govexec.com

 

[SLD]

The real question is whether this was preplanned. That is did ICE deliberately set out to murder someone to send a message to protesters to back off and let them do their job? Were there any verbal orders to find some protestor that they could make up a marginal excuse to kill?

I doubt that anyone would put such in writing but would Bovino actually order it verbally?

I wouldn’t put it past them. Both killings seem to imply that they’re looking for action.

 

[Toni]

My personal opinion is that they were always hoping to incite violence, and get a pretext for invoking the insurrection act.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

The real question is whether this was preplanned. That is did ICE deliberately set out to murder someone to send a message to protesters to back off and let them do their job? Were there any verbal orders to find some protestor that they could make up a marginal excuse to kill?

I doubt that anyone would put such in writing but would Bovino actually order it verbally?

I wouldn’t put it past them. Both killings seem to imply that they’re looking for action.

They obviously don't care if one of their members murders someone. Neither does the government. I don't think there's much of a difference either way (and that's the most charitable interpretation of the situation). But I'm not one to be charitable.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

My personal opinion is that they were always hoping to incite violence, and get a pretext for invoking the insurrection act.

They don't need a pretext for that. The Trump Admin has done generally whatever they wanted and invented plenty of pretext of their own. This appears to be more of an inch by inch over use of sociopathic force issue. Keep getting away with excessive force, and they keep pushing the envelope. Even before the killed the ICU nurse, they were beaten him in the face with the tear gas canister while knelt on the ground.

And then the celebratory clap after the killing... These are bad hombres!

 

[Toni]

My personal opinion is that they were always hoping to incite violence, and get a pretext for invoking the insurrection act.

They don't need a pretext for that. The Trump Admin has done generally whatever they wanted and invented plenty of pretext of their own. This appears to be more of an inch by inch over use of sociopathic force issue. Keep getting away with excessive force, and they keep pushing the envelope. Even before the killed the ICU nurse, they were beaten him in the face with the tear gas canister while knelt on the ground.

And then the celebratory clap after the killing... These are bad hombres!

There’s a lot of uproar over the Pretti murder, including from GOP. I think because it was the murder of a nice looking presumably straight cis white male who worked as a nurse for the VA and was carrying a weapon, so some 2nd Amendment fans are compelled to defend his right to carry a legal registered weapon.

So there are boundaries that, if violated, will cause some conservative pushback.

Missouri was requested to turn over their voter registration and is now facing demands to expunge some voters. People are noticing.

BTW, Minnesota was told that ICE would be removed if Minnesota would turn over their voter roles.

The Trump administration has overplayed its hand, badly. Hopefully badly enough.

 

[crazyfingers]

BTW, Minnesota was told that ICE would be removed if Minnesota would turn over their voter roles.

I hadn't read that. If true it shows that Trump is just using ICE as coercion.

 

[Toni]

BTW, Minnesota was told that ICE would be removed if Minnesota would turn over their voter roles.

I hadn't read that. If true it shows that Trump is just using ICE as coercion.

Well, normally I do not see FOX as a reliable source ( there are other sources but I’m using this one for …emphasis:

MN Secretary of State calls Bondi’s voter rolls demand ‘bizarre, disturbing’

U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi over the weekend called for Minnesota to turn over its voter rolls as one of the conditions to eventually pull ICE operations out of the state. On Monday, Secretary of State Steve Simon called that demand both “bizarre and disturbing."

www.fox9.com

Here’s another one from a MN station:

Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon releases statement in response to U.S. AG Pam Bondi letter

Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon has issued a statement in response to a letter written by U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi to Governor Tim Walz.

www.kttc.com

BTW, they are making the same demands in Maine who, like MN is basically telling them to pound sand.

 

[Toni]

Random thought but I would love to see if any of the pardoned Jan 6 rioters now work for ICE

I believe it is commonly believed that they do. Jamie Raskins has made formal inquiries regarding this.

 

[crazyfingers]

BTW, Minnesota was told that ICE would be removed if Minnesota would turn over their voter roles.

I hadn't read that. If true it shows that Trump is just using ICE as coercion.

Well, normally I do not see FOX as a reliable source ( there are other sources but I’m using this one for …emphasis:

MN Secretary of State calls Bondi’s voter rolls demand ‘bizarre, disturbing’

U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi over the weekend called for Minnesota to turn over its voter rolls as one of the conditions to eventually pull ICE operations out of the state. On Monday, Secretary of State Steve Simon called that demand both “bizarre and disturbing."

www.fox9.com

Here’s another one from a MN station:

Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon releases statement in response to U.S. AG Pam Bondi letter

Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon has issued a statement in response to a letter written by U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi to Governor Tim Walz.

www.kttc.com

BTW, they are making the same demands in Maine who, like MN is basically telling them to pound sand.

Bondi is fascist scum.

 

[ZiprHead]

BTW, Minnesota was told that ICE would be removed if Minnesota would turn over their voter roles.

I hadn't read that. If true it shows that Trump is just using ICE as coercion.

Considering the are almost four times as many illegal aliens in Texas as there are in Minnesota, this is clearly not about illegals.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

BTW, Minnesota was told that ICE would be removed if Minnesota would turn over their voter roles.

I hadn't read that. If true it shows that Trump is just using ICE as coercion.

Considering the are almost four times as many illegal aliens in Texas as there are in Minnesota, this is clearly not about illegals.

Not to mention Native Americans have been detained by ICE, so how's it about illegals?

 

[Toni]

BTW, Minnesota was told that ICE would be removed if Minnesota would turn over their voter roles.

I hadn't read that. If true it shows that Trump is just using ICE as coercion.

Considering the are almost four times as many illegal aliens in Texas as there are in Minnesota, this is clearly not about illegals.

Not to mention Native Americans have been detained by ICE, so how's it about illegals?

Three NA are being held at the Whipple Center as hostages, as ICE attempts to extort access to the reservation to build an interment camp there. This is where NA were held during the Dakota-US War of 1862. Not quite as horrible as Dachau but close enough. So it especially ugly and hateful.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[ZiprHead]

Asked and answered. Crime is up in Minneapolis simply by including the crimes perpetrated by ICE. Further, Minnesota Public Radio fact-checked the names and photos of alleged captured criminals and found that they were people arrested long ago, prior to the surge, and had been handed over by Minnesota authorities. The undocumented person that ICE was looking for when they killed Alex Pretti had only misdemeanor traffic offenses according to Minnesota public safety records.

 

[SLD]

Asked and answered. Crime is up in Minneapolis simply by including the crimes perpetrated by ICE. Further, Minnesota Public Radio fact-checked the names and photos of alleged captured criminals and found that they were people arrested long ago, prior to the surge, and had been handed over by Minnesota authorities. The undocumented person that ICE was looking for when they killed Alex Pretti had only misdemeanor traffic offenses according to Minnesota public safety records.

Are you saying that Trump lied?

 

[TV and credit cards]

Minnesota congresswoman Ilhan Omar attacked with unknown liquid at event

Minnesota congresswoman Ilhan Omar was attacked with an unknown substance at an event she was hosting on Tuesday, when an audience member used a syringe to spray liquid at her, Minneapolis police said.

As he was pushed out of the room, he said that Omar was "pitting us against each other". It was not immediately clear who the man was referring to.

Really? And your journalistic integrity will not permit you to speculate as to who the "us" might be?
Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

 

[Patooka]

Minnesota congresswoman Ilhan Omar attacked with unknown liquid at event

Minnesota congresswoman Ilhan Omar was attacked with an unknown substance at an event she was hosting on Tuesday, when an audience member used a syringe to spray liquid at her, Minneapolis police said.

As he was pushed out of the room, he said that Omar was "pitting us against each other". It was not immediately clear who the man was referring to.

Really? And your journalistic integrity will not permit you to speculate as to who the "us" might be?
Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

A couple of MAGA forums I lurk at have already described it as "an antifa false flag". I'm kinda impressed they somehow find a way to utilise electronic devices.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Minnesota congresswoman Ilhan Omar attacked with unknown liquid at event

Minnesota congresswoman Ilhan Omar was attacked with an unknown substance at an event she was hosting on Tuesday, when an audience member used a syringe to spray liquid at her, Minneapolis police said.

As he was pushed out of the room, he said that Omar was "pitting us against each other". It was not immediately clear who the man was referring to.

Really? And your journalistic integrity will not permit you to speculate as to who the "us" might be?
Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

A couple of MAGA forums I lurk at have already described it as "an antifa false flag". I'm kinda impressed they somehow find a way to utilise electronic devices.

I bet the bootlickers here will just blindly repeat that assertion without any evidence (they seem to be ridiculous enough to believe Antifa is a "terrorist organization" after all, and that's just as ridiculous).