England headed for A Caliphate

[Tigers!]

And the fascist population is concentrated enough in some English towns that their presence is really starting to be felt in politics and in the streets. Their population doesn't have to grow too much larger before the effects in politics will really start to be seen.

Am I correct in assuming you have problems with fascists concentrating in some English towns (I too have problems with fascists concentrating in some English towns) but if Muslims concentrate in other English towns that is ok?
Why?

 

[aupmanyav]

That is going to happen in all Europe and UK. Merkelism is an invitation to disaster.

 

[barbos]

Why?

Because karma is a bitch. British Empire conquered India, now it is karma time!

 

[Bomb#20]

And the fascist population is concentrated enough in some English towns that their presence is really starting to be felt in politics and in the streets. Their population doesn't have to grow too much larger before the effects in politics will really start to be seen.

Am I correct in assuming you have problems with fascists concentrating in some English towns (I too have problems with fascists concentrating in some English towns) but if Muslims concentrate in other English towns that is ok?
Why?

Your question presupposes that the specific Muslims concentrating in English towns aren’t fascists.

 

[ZiprHead]

Muslims are not in the West to assimilate



They are in the west to take over. They are literally broadcasting it.

Like the Jews in Palestine.

If so, what’s your point? Do you think the immigration of the Jews into Palestine was, on the whole, good for the Palestinians?

No. Of course it wasn't. How could you even ask such a ridiculous question?

 

[laughing dog]

Wasn't the Iberian peninsula Muslim territory for centuries, before the Christian hordes drove them out at sword point?
Tom

[IIRC the Muslims crossed into the Iberian peninsula in 711 AD. (They were not invited)
And what were the Muslims doing at Tours, France in 732AD? Not partaking of the waters I'll wager.]

You are not allowed to mention Muslim colonisation in polite company.
(It has never happened we are constantly told)

Where do you? I ask, because I’ve never been told nor seen claimed that Muslims did nit colonize. Of course, maybe I wasn’t paying attention.

 

[laughing dog]

And the fascist population is concentrated enough in some English towns that their presence is really starting to be felt in politics and in the streets. Their population doesn't have to grow too much larger before the effects in politics will really start to be seen.

Am I correct in assuming you have problems with fascists concentrating in some English towns (I too have problems with fascists concentrating in some English towns) but if Muslims concentrate in other English towns that is ok?
Why?

Personally, my experience that Muslim does not necessarily mean radical while fascist means violent antidemocratic asshole explains it.

 

[Derec]

Something, something, I had no idea that leopards would eat my face ...

Aid worker who helped refugees in Greece murdered by migrant, body hidden in suitcase

 

[laughing dog]

Something, something, I had no idea that leopards would eat my face ...

Aid worker who helped refugees in Greece murdered by migrant, body hidden in suitcase

The migrant is alleged to have murdered the victim. I guess only alleged rapists get the presumption of innocence.

 

[Tigers!]

And the fascist population is concentrated enough in some English towns that their presence is really starting to be felt in politics and in the streets. Their population doesn't have to grow too much larger before the effects in politics will really start to be seen.

Am I correct in assuming you have problems with fascists concentrating in some English towns (I too have problems with fascists concentrating in some English towns) but if Muslims concentrate in other English towns that is ok?
Why?

Your question presupposes that the specific Muslims concentrating in English towns aren’t fascists.

Perhaps I was unclear. The Muslims are in some towns and the fascists in others.

 

[Bomb#20]

And the fascist population is concentrated enough in some English towns that their presence is really starting to be felt in politics and in the streets. Their population doesn't have to grow too much larger before the effects in politics will really start to be seen.

Am I correct in assuming you have problems with fascists concentrating in some English towns (I too have problems with fascists concentrating in some English towns) but if Muslims concentrate in other English towns that is ok?
Why?

Your question presupposes that the specific Muslims concentrating in English towns aren’t fascists.

Perhaps I was unclear. The Muslims are in some towns and the fascists in others.

That would imply that the Muslims aren’t fascists. Why should we believe the Muslims aren’t fascists?

 

[TSwizzle]

Something, something, I had no idea that leopards would eat my face ...

Aid worker who helped refugees in Greece murdered by migrant, body hidden in suitcase

New details have emerged in the case of Jamey Carney, a 43-year-old American mother who was killed in her home in Ireland last month. Ms Carney was found dead at her house in Killarney, County Kerry, on July 7 by her 13-year-old daughter Michaela.
Ms Carney's remains were hidden beneath a duvet in her bedroom. A post-mortem determined she had died from suffocation, with reports suggesting she was also struck repeatedly with a heavy toilet cistern lid. She was vocal about her left-wing politics, including advocacy for Palestine, before she met Al-Saqar - 15 years her junior - at local pro-Gaza marches.

Al-Saqar is the murderer. An “asylum seeker” from Jordan.

GB News

White, affluent, educated, liberal women have a sickness it seems.

 

[Spacetime Inhabitant]

Imagine if every report of a murder in the USA or UK stated the migration status and racial status of the alleged murderer. There would be a whole lot of reports that went, "Non-immigrant white man xxxx yyyy is alleged killer".

 

[Bomb#20]

Muslims are not in the West to assimilate



They are in the west to take over. They are literally broadcasting it.

Like the Jews in Palestine.

If so, what’s your point? Do you think the immigration of the Jews into Palestine was, on the whole, good for the Palestinians?

No. Of course it wasn't. How could you even ask such a ridiculous question?

It’s called a “rhetorical question”. Back in March you were pooh-poohing TS’s suggestions that Islamic immigration is likely to be bad for the current inhabitants of the west. Yet here you are, pointing out the similarity to a historical case where mass influx was bad for the locals. Perhaps you’ve rethought your views and decided maybe TS is right; but that doesn’t seem plausible. So it’s surprising and counterintuitive that you’d back him up. So what was your point in saying it’s like the Jews in Palestine?

 

[TSwizzle]

Imagine if every report of a murder in the USA or UK stated the migration status and racial status of the alleged murderer. There would be a whole lot of reports that went, "Non-immigrant white man xxxx yyyy is alleged killer".

You would be surprised at the lengths the British press and police go to to obscure the “migration status” of criminals like Al-Saqar.

 

[Tigers!]

And the fascist population is concentrated enough in some English towns that their presence is really starting to be felt in politics and in the streets. Their population doesn't have to grow too much larger before the effects in politics will really start to be seen.

Am I correct in assuming you have problems with fascists concentrating in some English towns (I too have problems with fascists concentrating in some English towns) but if Muslims concentrate in other English towns that is ok?
Why?

Your question presupposes that the specific Muslims concentrating in English towns aren’t fascists.

Perhaps I was unclear. The Muslims are in some towns and the fascists in others.

That would imply that the Muslims aren’t fascists. Why should we believe the Muslims aren’t fascists?

Unless you want to be labelled Islamophobic, racist etc.
I am not keen on labelling a whole group based upon the actions, thoughts, motives etc. of a subset (size unknown)
All we can say for certain is that they are Musilm.
Innocent until proven guilty and so on

 

[Tigers!]

Imagine if every report of a murder in the USA or UK stated the migration status and racial status of the alleged murderer. There would be a whole lot of reports that went, "Non-immigrant white man xxxx yyyy is alleged killer".

Though such information is useful to collect by the authorities.

 

[aupmanyav]

Why should we believe the Muslims aren’t fascists?

They are, some clearly so, all others ready to help them. Problems start when they are 5% of the populations, by 10% the problems are obvious. By 15%, the problems are serious.

White, affluent, educated, liberal women have a sickness it seems.

Even white, educated, liberal men have a sickness it seems.

 

[Bomb#20]

And the fascist population is concentrated enough in some English towns that their presence is really starting to be felt in politics and in the streets. Their population doesn't have to grow too much larger before the effects in politics will really start to be seen.

Am I correct in assuming you have problems with fascists concentrating in some English towns (I too have problems with fascists concentrating in some English towns) but if Muslims concentrate in other English towns that is ok?
Why?

Your question presupposes that the specific Muslims concentrating in English towns aren’t fascists.

Perhaps I was unclear. The Muslims are in some towns and the fascists in others.

That would imply that the Muslims aren’t fascists. Why should we believe the Muslims aren’t fascists?

Unless you want to be labelled Islamophobic, racist etc.

The evidence for an extraordinary claim is that if I’m skeptical of it its true believers will call me nasty names? That sounds more like evidence that said labelers are fascists.

I am not keen on labelling a whole group based upon the actions, thoughts, motives etc. of a subset (size unknown)
All we can say for certain is that they are Musilm.

So who’s labeling a whole group? That would be the ones claiming they aren’t fascists. This isn’t about whether every single Muslim is fascist; this is about whether an earlier poster has a double standard for having a problem with the concentration of fascists. When there’s a concentration of Muslims in some town and, say, 78% of Muslims are fascists, then it’s a near certainty that there’s a concentration of fascists there.

According to an NOP Research poll, 78% of Muslims in Britain are in favor of prosecuting people who publish cartoons of Muhammad.

Innocent until proven guilty and so on

Innocent until proven guilty is for individuals. It means we give a person the benefit of the doubt even if he’s from a known high-risk population. It isn’t an argument for self-deception about statistical reality.

 

[ZiprHead]

Muslims are not in the West to assimilate



They are in the west to take over. They are literally broadcasting it.

Like the Jews in Palestine.

If so, what’s your point? Do you think the immigration of the Jews into Palestine was, on the whole, good for the Palestinians?

No. Of course it wasn't. How could you even ask such a ridiculous question?

It’s called a “rhetorical question”. Back in March you were pooh-poohing TS’s suggestions that Islamic immigration is likely to be bad for the current inhabitants of the west. Yet here you are, pointing out the similarity to a historical case where mass influx was bad for the locals. Perhaps you’ve rethought your views and decided maybe TS is right; but that doesn’t seem plausible. So it’s surprising and counterintuitive that you’d back him up. So what was your point in saying it’s like the Jews in Palestine?

There's is very little similarity. After WWII Jews came in droves and took over the country by force, Assassinating the opposition even if they were Jewish, stealing land and homes and forcing by threat of and committing violence against whole communities. Culminating in what is basically an open air prison. Are the Muslims in England doing any of that?