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In a police state it doesn't matter what people think.

Unless you haven't noticed, Muslim countries tend to be police states. Clearly there's something about the culture that keeps pushing these countries towards these kinds of governments.
can you provide the statistics behind this assertion? How many Muslim countries are there in the world and how many of them are police states?
 

In a police state it doesn't matter what people think.

Unless you haven't noticed, Muslim countries tend to be police states. Clearly there's something about the culture that keeps pushing these countries towards these kinds of governments.
can you provide the statistics behind this assertion? How many Muslim countries are there in the world and how many of them are police states?

Nobody alive today can be this ignorant. So I don't think you are truly disagreeing. But I'm not sure what you are driving at?

Turkey used to be a shining example of Islamic secularism. Not anymore. Indonesia are doing ok. But that's it, right? The rest are police states. And to be fair, Indonesia has had a rocky journey. Since indipendence they've been a police state more than not.

I'm sure anyone can manage to do this maths in their head. So why exactly do you need statistics? Seems a bit redundant?

BTW, Atürks secularisation attempt was explicitly to make more Turkey more like the west. Because the Turks were traumatised by how the western nations had ripped apart the Ottomans so easily. Atatürk was trying to copy Japan's example.

I don't think it's a coincidence that Turkeys secularisation project died in a time where Europe was weak and letting itself be dominated by Russia. I think Russia's seizure of Crimea and the wests non-response led directly to the death of democracy is Turkey. The west had lost their prestige. That just goes to show how paper thin the Islamic secular culture is. It's a different culture. BTW, the Turks see themselves as completely different from Arabs. They generally think Arabs are a bunch of savages, and would be horrified if they knew that Europeans see Turks and Arabs as much the same.
 
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Unless you haven't noticed, Muslim countries tend to be police states. Clearly there's something about the culture that keeps pushing these countries towards these kinds of governments. When Egypt had a free and fair election the Muslim Brotherhood (=police state) won an overwhelming majority.
Compared to what it had before the MB assumed government?

So what? Muslims aren't animals. They're not retarded sheeple. They're actual thinking humans. They have the same access to information as we do. You know that the developing world also has smart phones and Internet? They're not dumber than us.

You seem to have zero respect for Muslims.
 
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