To believe in ...

[George S]

To Believe IN

We use the verb phrase to believe in when judging the truth of a fantasy story involving magic and or miracle -- things impossible in the natural world.

Does a child believe in Tinkerbell?
Does a child believe in Santa Claus?
Do you believe in the Bible, Torah, or Koran?
Do you believe in Jesus?
Do you believe in X? may be rephrased as 'Do you believe that the magical/miraculous acts described are true?'

To believe in is to believe in magic. To believe in make believe.

O reader believe in me for I can only help if you believe in the magic described herein. -- <random "holy" book>

 

[George S]

If you believe in Scientology, does that make Battlefield Earth a "holy" book?

 

[Atheos]

Well to be fair people can believe in a political policy and/or an economic model. Such belief can be its own impetus for a nation's economy to begin moving after a recession. Believing in something is not necessarily constrained to make believe.

 

[bilby]

I believe in rejecting all positions that start with the phrase 'I believe in...'.

 

[fast]

I believe in standing on one's own two feet. Beats the hell out of teamwork when results are more important than how they're achieved.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I believe in standing on one's own two feet. Beats the hell out of teamwork when results are more important than how they're achieved.

That's racist against soldiers who've lost one of their feet while fighting for freedom.

Why do you hate injured war veterans so much?

 

[Kharakov]

I believe in standing on one's own two feet. Beats the hell out of teamwork when results are more important than how they're achieved.

It's awesome how a single entrepreneur developed the technology required to create the internet standing on their own 2 feet. I find it even more impressive that they strung all the fiber, had time to grow food, drill for petrochemicals, mine, and everything else they did.

 

[Perspicuo]

Oft heard:

Do you believe in evolution?

 

[bilby]

Oft heard:

Do you believe in evolution?

Of course I don't believe in evolution. It is just a fact, like gravitation.

 

[Perspicuo]

There are no "facts". There is no point where science just stops, as the word 'fact' seems to imply.

I'd say, "I believe evolution by natural selection is supported by the evidence with an overkill of hundreds of evidence-based research papers per annum at universities around the world."

 

[fast]

I believe in standing on one's own two feet. Beats the hell out of teamwork when results are more important than how they're achieved.

It's awesome how a single entrepreneur developed the technology required to create the internet standing on their own 2 feet. I find it even more impressive that they strung all the fiber, had time to grow food, drill for petrochemicals, mine, and everything else they did.

Grow food? Seriously? Take it back!! Find it somewhere within yourself to put a positive spin on what I said. That is not teamwork. Connections do not imply teamwork. Links do not imply teamwork. Sure, an entrepreneur needs sustenance, but the effort put forth by these other parties is not a product of team (team, I say) effort.

 

[fast]

I believe in standing on one's own two feet. Beats the hell out of teamwork when results are more important than how they're achieved.

That's racist against soldiers who've lost one of their feet while fighting for freedom.

Why do you hate injured war veterans so much?

Ha ha, funny.

I was being figurative, not literal.

Speaking of which, do you have different feelings of gratitude between 1) non-drafted injured veterans and 2) all others? Where all others include a) drafted and not injured, b) drafted and injured, and c) not drafted and not injured?

 

[George S]

Oft heard:

Do you believe in evolution?

There is the fact of evolution in need of an explanation. The modern theory of evolution explains the data well. In that sense I believe that this is the best explanation for the diversity of species.

But no, I don't believe it as immutable truth.

 

[Kharakov]

Grow food? Seriously? Take it back!! Find it somewhere within yourself to put a positive spin on what I said. That is not teamwork. Connections do not imply teamwork. Links do not imply teamwork. Sure, an entrepreneur needs sustenance, but the effort put forth by these other parties is not a product of team (team, I say) effort.

I wasn't talking about teamwork. You can stand atop the efforts of others, but it is not just on your own 2 feet. Not one man stands on his own 2 feet, anywhere in the universe.

 

[bilby]

Grow food? Seriously? Take it back!! Find it somewhere within yourself to put a positive spin on what I said. That is not teamwork. Connections do not imply teamwork. Links do not imply teamwork. Sure, an entrepreneur needs sustenance, but the effort put forth by these other parties is not a product of team (team, I say) effort.

I wasn't talking about teamwork. You can stand atop the efforts of others, but it is not just on your own 2 feet. Not one man stands on his own 2 feet, anywhere in the universe.

I did this morning. But now I am sitting down again.

 

[skepticalbip]

I wasn't talking about teamwork. You can stand atop the efforts of others, but it is not just on your own 2 feet. Not one man stands on his own 2 feet, anywhere in the universe.

I did this morning. But now I am sitting down again.

That doesn't count. You are in Australia and Australia isn't anywhere in this universe. Australia is hours and hours ahead of this universe. It is already after five O'clock Tuesday afternoon there.

 

[fast]

Grow food? Seriously? Take it back!! Find it somewhere within yourself to put a positive spin on what I said. That is not teamwork. Connections do not imply teamwork. Links do not imply teamwork. Sure, an entrepreneur needs sustenance, but the effort put forth by these other parties is not a product of team (team, I say) effort.

I wasn't talking about teamwork. You can stand atop the efforts of others, but it is not just on your own 2 feet. Not one man stands on his own 2 feet, anywhere in the universe.

I'm familiar with the concept of standing on the shoulder of giants. What you're talking about isn't too far removed from that. I acknowledge your point. We are not alone, and much of what we have wouldn't be ours if not for the labor of others, but the scope of my comment didn't extend so far out. Consider the inter-office dynamics of people working together towards specific quantifiable goals. There can be teamwork, but being amongst poor contributors, failure to reach goals is a good possibility. Laziness can breed contentment in whom might otherwise be proactive. A select driven few can rise above the crutch of poor teamwork and singlehandedly take the bull by the horns and be a single force to be reckoned with.

When I speak of standing on one's own two feet, I'm talking about not needing one's hand held to go take a piss. I'm talking about being self-reliant and having the mindset necessary to tackle the tasks needed to successfully reach goals despite the effort or lack thereof of others. I don't mean "self-reliant" in some extreme philosophical sense that distorts it's very meaning. Sure, I can't cut down the trees that eventually go to make the paper that comes out of the printer that I also couldn't fix to save my life, but if I'm out of paper and the printer don't work, I don't need to rely on teammates to solve the problem, especially if that problem stands between successfully reaching goals or not.

 

[Kharakov]

I did this morning. But now I am sitting down again.

That doesn't count. You are in Australia and Australia isn't anywhere in this universe. Australia is hours and hours ahead of this universe. It is already after five O'clock Tuesday afternoon there.

Even if they were part of the rest of the universe, antipodes dangle, not stand.

 

[Kharakov]

I'm talking about being self-reliant and having the mindset necessary to tackle the tasks needed to successfully reach goals despite the effort or lack thereof of others. I don't mean "self-reliant" in some extreme philosophical sense that distorts it's very meaning.

Thanks for the clarification. I'm going to go do some handstand pushups so I can understand what our Australian friends have been saying.

 

[Rhea]

I keep hearing fundies talk about "Believing ON Jesus." You have to Believe On Jesus as your Lord and Savior!

And I'm all, WOT?