Atheists: Questions 2, 3 and 4.

[Jimmy Higgins]

SAY WAHHHH?

Since neither the material existence nor the human beings can be the evidence then, who or what is the evidence for the future existence of human life and of the universe?

From that perspective, nothing. What's your point?

S:

While the atheists claim the lack of evidence for disbelieve in the creator of the universe; they do believe in the future existence of self and of the universe without evidence.

Could you please describe this "belief in the future existence of self"? I'm unfamiliar with this umm.. thing, despite my alleged belief in it.

 

[Keith&Co.]

While the atheists claim the lack of evidence for disbelieve in the creator of the universe; they do believe in the future existence of self and of the universe without evidence.

you can't say 'without evidence,' Saeed. Except by completely ignoring all the evidence that's been offered to you.
You can reject it as evidence, but if we accept it, you can't argue that we believe in the future without evidence.
It's dishonest, but i expect no better from you at this point.

This does prove the atheist self contradiction.

No, it proves your basic dishonesty.

. Since there is no alternative to belief in the creator of the universe for belief in future existence;

Except for the alternatives....

Your crowing in victory is hollow and blatantly self-deceiving, Saeed.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Could you please describe this "belief in the future existence of self"? I'm unfamiliar with this umm.. thing, despite my alleged belief in it.

Saeed's theory is that we behave as if the sun will come up tomorrow and we will be here to greet it. We buy homes, we buy insurance, we buy food on Sunday for Friday's meal.
To him, this is an iron-strong belief in our and the universe's future. Not to be confused with a maybe-sorta approach, or a 'better safe than sorry' approach or any other level of belief, habit, acceptance or tentative plan.

In Saeed's view, therefore, we are acting as if we are depending on God's guarantee for the future. There are, in his feeble approach to preaching his belief, no other explanations possible for having a three month parking pass than to be a secret believer in Allah and all his works.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Could you please describe this "belief in the future existence of self"? I'm unfamiliar with this umm.. thing, despite my alleged belief in it.

Saeed's theory is that we behave as if the sun will come up tomorrow and we will be here to greet it. We buy homes, we buy insurance, we buy food on Sunday for Friday's meal.
To him, this is an iron-strong belief in our and the universe's future. Not to be confused with a maybe-sorta approach, or a 'better safe than sorry' approach or any other level of belief, habit, acceptance or tentative plan.

In Saeed's view, therefore, we are acting as if we are depending on God's guarantee for the future. There are, in his feeble approach to preaching his belief, no other explanations possible for having a three month parking pass than to be a secret believer in Allah and all his works.

Understood. I didn't realize that was an atheist thing. I guess that is why the Christian Boy Scouts use the motto "Be Prepared".

Of course, this "theory" of his would also mean squirrels are theists too, burying their nuts for the winter that they just assume will be coming.

13.8 billion years and I shouldn't buy food for tomorrow today, because I don't know for a fact the universe won't exist tomorrow like it did for the previous 13.8 billion years. Hmm.... Saeed does have a point. The universe has rolled sevens since the dawn of the expansion 13.8 billion years ago. At some point soon, it has to roll snake eyes. I'm just going to ignore tomorrow will ever exist! The only problem is that my Dish Network subscription requires me to pay for future programming. Does that mean I have to give up my Sat TV?

 

[Keith&Co.]

Understood. I didn't realize that was an atheist thing. I guess that is why the Christian Boy Scouts use the motto "Be Prepared".

Well, God guarantees a tomorrow, but he's not going to promise that you can make it through the day without being able to take a plaster cast of an animal's footprint.

 

[funinspace]

All thanks and praise to Helios for yet another sun rise….ROTFLMAO

 

[Tom Sawyer]

All thanks and praise to Helios for yet another sun rise….ROTFLMAO
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Hey there, funinspace. On behalf of all members of the True Religion, I'd just like to say that we're all looking forward to spending eternity laughing in glee while watching you burn forever in the fires of Hell for your blasphemy. Everybody knows that it's Ra who causes the sunrise and not whatever made up shit you tried to spout out there.

 

[funinspace]

Pffft...Ra is just a cheap knockoff of Utu.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Pffft...Ra is just a cheap knockoff of Utu.

Utu? That twat's just the poor man's version of Helios.

 

[Underseer]

All thanks and praise to Helios for yet another sun rise….ROTFLMAO
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It's obviously Helios driving a chariot across the sky. How else do you explain the Sun traveling across the sky each and every day? Only a god could be so punctual and never miss a day of work.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

All thanks and praise to Helios for yet another sun rise….ROTFLMAO
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It's obviously Helios driving a chariot across the sky. How else do you explain the Sun traveling across the sky each and every day? Only a god could be so punctual and never miss a day of work.

Punctual? He is never around the same time every day. It is always two more minutes or two less minutes of sunlight a day. In December, he is hardly around at all!

 

[Keith&Co.]

Punctual? He is never around the same time every day. It is always two more minutes or two less minutes of sunlight a day. In December, he is hardly around at all!

But he's ALWAYS there when the day starts, right? The light reaches a certain level and BOOM, there's the sun.
The moon doesn't show up every night when the night starts. Hell, sometimes the moon even shows up during the day. But the sun? That's got a GREAT work ethic.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Punctual? He is never around the same time every day. It is always two more minutes or two less minutes of sunlight a day. In December, he is hardly around at all!

But he's ALWAYS there when the day starts, right? The light reaches a certain level and BOOM, there's the sun.
The moon doesn't show up every night when the night starts. Hell, sometimes the moon even shows up during the day. But the sun? That's got a GREAT work ethic.

You do have a good point. Sometimes the Moon shows up during the day?! WTF?!

 

[Keith&Co.]

Yes, and her express purpose in Genesis is to rule over the night. Silly moon, up and about when the Sun's supposed to dominate.
That's how we get eclipses, you know. ANARCHY!

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Yes, and her express purpose in Genesis is to rule over the night. Silly moon, up and about when the Sun's supposed to dominate.
That's how we get eclipses, you know. ANARCHY!

Eclipses are Odin's way of telling you to stop having gay sex.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Odin strikes you as a particularly subtle god?
I'd think Odin's sign to stop that sticking your scramasax in a sword's scabbard would be a frost giant biting it off at the hilt.
You're warned AND you're prevented from a repeat.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Hey, why aren't those sort of questions offered, instead of this self-serving, presuppositionist crap Saeed keeps pounding on?

Translate the god's message:

What does it mean when planes crash into the ocean and disappear?
And Saeed's answer would probably be:
It means God loves you and wants you to join Islam.

What does it mean when Iranian women are happy?
And Saeed's answer would probably be:
It means God loves you, but not in that way, and wants you to join Islam.

What does it mean when Subway goes halal?
It means Islam is winning, and God will burn you for eternity in an unending flame.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Odin strikes you as a particularly subtle god?
I'd think Odin's sign to stop that sticking your scramasax in a sword's scabbard would be a frost giant biting it off at the hilt.
You're warned AND you're prevented from a repeat.

That's just due to a translation error. In Asgardian speech, causing an eclipse is about as direct a way of saying "Hey! That's not where your penis is supposed to go!" as one can get.

 

[funinspace]

Yes, and her express purpose in Genesis is to rule over the night. Silly moon, up and about when the Sun's supposed to dominate.
That's how we get eclipses, you know. ANARCHY!

But I don't think Yahweh was invited to the pantheon to instruct Selene on just how she was to do her job. Yeah, tell a women how to do a job

 

[DrZoidberg]

Yes, and her express purpose in Genesis is to rule over the night. Silly moon, up and about when the Sun's supposed to dominate.
That's how we get eclipses, you know. ANARCHY!

Eclipses are Odin's way of telling you to stop having gay sex.

How do you know? I think it's a warning. A warning to what will happen if we don't start having more gay sex. As long as there is a single human who has vaginal intercourse we all risk being thrown into a world of perpetual darkness where the sun doesn't shine. Think about it!