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Gaza "beach" -- what really happened

Because they know that not shooting back means more rockets.
Thank you for agreeing that the IDF is happy to oblige Hamas in its propaganda efforts by killing children.

"Happy to oblige" isn't the right term. Rather, they know the best way to protect their citizens is to stomp on Hamas when Hamas picks a fight.
 
If many so called progressive people looked at the situation without the Jew hatred in their minds blinkers, they would see the situation in Israel for what it is. Muslims will never accept a Jewish state in their midst. Muslim kids are taught at school that the Jews are their enemies. They are brought up to hate.
 
If many so called progressive people looked at the situation without the Jew hatred in their minds blinkers, they would see the situation in Israel for what it is. Muslims will never accept a Jewish state in their midst. Muslim kids are taught at school that the Jews are their enemies. They are brought up to hate.

While you, on the other hand, have no dislike for Muslims whatsoever, having been brought up to love and respect all peoples equally, to carefully check the factual basis of any negative claims before repeating them, and to avoid making broad-brush statements about entire populations.

Right?
 
If many so called progressive people looked at the situation without the Jew hatred in their minds blinkers, they would see the situation in Israel for what it is. Muslims will never accept a Jewish state in their midst. Muslim kids are taught at school that the Jews are their enemies. They are brought up to hate.
You clearly have no clue as to what Muslims are taught r believe. And your emotional appeal of "Jew Hatred" is nothing more than projection and shows the emptiness of your position.
 
If many so called progressive people looked at the situation without the Jew hatred in their minds blinkers, they would see the situation in Israel for what it is. Muslims will never accept a Jewish state in their midst. Muslim kids are taught at school that the Jews are their enemies. They are brought up to hate.

While you, on the other hand, have no dislike for Muslims whatsoever, having been brought up to love and respect all peoples equally, to carefully check the factual basis of any negative claims before repeating them, and to avoid making broad-brush statements about entire populations.

Right?
I had no idea mulims are a race!!
 
If many so called progressive people looked at the situation without the Jew hatred in their minds blinkers, they would see the situation in Israel for what it is. Muslims will never accept a Jewish state in their midst. Muslim kids are taught at school that the Jews are their enemies. They are brought up to hate.
You clearly have no clue as to what Muslims are taught r believe. And your emotional appeal of "Jew Hatred" is nothing more than projection and shows the emptiness of your position.
Please read a biography of the paedophile prophet. Especially the part about death or conversion of the Jews and infidels.
 
You clearly have no clue as to what Muslims are taught r believe. And your emotional appeal of "Jew Hatred" is nothing more than projection and shows the emptiness of your position.
Please read a biography of the paedophile prophet. Especially the part about death or conversion of the Jews and infidels.
What does any of that have to do with your claims about what Muslims today are taught or believe? Apparently your hatred of Muslims blinds your reasoning.
 
"Happy to oblige" isn't the right term.
Oh, yes it is.
Rather, they know the best way to protect their citizens is to stomp on Hamas when Hamas picks a fight.
By killing children? Do you realize with every post, you make the IDF look more barbaric and inhumane?

You seem to have quite a problem with understanding whose fault it is. The kids die because Hamas uses human shield tactics. Hamas is the one killing the children.
 
Oh, yes it is.
Rather, they know the best way to protect their citizens is to stomp on Hamas when Hamas picks a fight.
By killing children? Do you realize with every post, you make the IDF look more barbaric and inhumane?

You seem to have quite a problem with understanding whose fault it is. The kids die because Hamas uses human shield tactics. Hamas is the one killing the children.
The IDF is killing the children whether they are human shields or not. Hamas may be putting the children in danger, but the IDF is pulling the proverbial trigger. For some reason, you are appear incapable of seeing the obvious: the IDF is responsible for its decisions and actions which makes it partially responsible for the deaths of those children.
 
You seem to have quite a problem with understanding whose fault it is.


Seems I remember a fellow who - over on the Charleston shooting thread - argues that the victims are at fault because they're not fighting back hard enough. Yet here, the same fellow is blaming the victims for fighting back too hard.

In both cases, this fellow is unwilling to place any blame on the people who actually did the killing.
 
Oh, yes it is.
Rather, they know the best way to protect their citizens is to stomp on Hamas when Hamas picks a fight.
By killing children? Do you realize with every post, you make the IDF look more barbaric and inhumane?

You seem to have quite a problem with understanding whose fault it is. The kids die because Hamas uses human shield tactics. Hamas is the one killing the children.
The IDF is killing the children whether they are human shields or not. Hamas may be putting the children in danger, but the IDF is pulling the proverbial trigger. For some reason, you are appear incapable of seeing the obvious: the IDF is responsible for its decisions and actions which makes it partially responsible for the deaths of those children.

Israel is responsible for how it conducts its operations. No one else.

There was no need to fire artillery shells at those kids that day, but the IDF doesn't have to wait until there's a need for it to act. It can act at will, and it does. And even though the IDF knows that there are no places in Gaza City that aren't routinely used by civilians, it still asserts it has the right to bomb any part it chooses, kill whomever it chooses, for whatever reason it chooses.
 
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If many so called progressive people looked at the situation without the Jew hatred in their minds blinkers, they would see the situation in Israel for what it is. Muslims will never accept a Jewish state in their midst. Muslim kids are taught at school that the Jews are their enemies. They are brought up to hate.

While you, on the other hand, have no dislike for Muslims whatsoever, having been brought up to love and respect all peoples equally, to carefully check the factual basis of any negative claims before repeating them, and to avoid making broad-brush statements about entire populations.

Right?
I had no idea mulims are a race!!

They aren't. You might note that the word 'race' is entirely absent from my post to which you replied.
 
Hamas charter is the same as the Muslim Brotherhood's, the genocide of every single Jew, not only in Israel but everywhere in the world. I don't know of a Jewish charter
 
To kill or convert every single Muslim!

There was a guy about as prejudiced as you last week in South Carolina. Look how it worked out for him. You have to turn off your hatred bubble machine and then maybe you can eventually accept some people who are not exactly like you.
 
Last summer, just before Hamas took the spotlight with its dumbfuckery, the Israeli Jews had lynch mobs on the street calling for "death to Arabs". Jewish and Palestinian asshats are just two peas in a pod, they are both raised to hate the other.
 
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