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White Americans support the right to protest injustice — unless the protesters are black
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Interesting figures in more ways than one. That also shows that white people apparently care more about protesting injustice than non-white people do... unless it is about black people.
Alternately, some white people feel that a lot of black protest against "injustice" is not based on actual injustice.
For example, no matter how justified the shoot there will be some blacks proclaiming the cops did wrong. That sort of thing doesn't make our country better.
I find that phrase to be so revolting. "The shoot." It really makes me sick. So dehumanizing, the assumption in advance that the death of that jhuman being can be termed "a shoot" Fuuuuck. Like a goddamned fox hunt. "say, that was a jolly good shoot, eh, wot?"
It's a fucking HUMAN LIFE. Not "a shoot."
You can conclude no such thing, since these stats do not measure the reactions of blacks. They measure the reactions of non-whites as a whole. It would be interesting to see what blacks (without the noise of other races) would show. I wonder if that would explain "other races" caring more when it is black americans than when it is americans in general. That would seem to indicate a very strong black bias here amongst blacks along with the strong white bias one you show with whites isolated.
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Does every protest always make the country better? How do you get from "doesn't always make the country better" to "should not have the right"?
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Why do you think that is? I have a feeling you have theory.
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I think they also ought to have asked the question "When white Americans speak up and protest unfair treatment by the government it always make our country better".
People are swayed by the exact wording of questions in the sort of situations they picture. If you ask about Americans protesting they will naturally think of things "an American" would protest about. If you ask about "black Americans protesting" they will tend to think about specific things which black Americans (and not others) would likely protest about. And if you asked about "white Americans" protesting they will tend to think about specific things which white Americans (and not others) would likely protest about.
And I suspect if they did ask that question there'd be a much greater symmetry to the responses. So we'd also be able to conclude (even more than the figures currently suggest) that "Non-white Americans support the right to protest injustice — unless the protesters are white."
People are swayed by the exact wording of questions in the sort of situations they picture. If you ask about Americans protesting they will naturally think of things "an American" would protest about. If you ask about "black Americans protesting" they will tend to think about specific things which black Americans (and not others) would likely protest about. And if you asked about "white Americans" protesting they will tend to think about specific things which white Americans (and not others) would likely protest about.
And I suspect if they did ask that question there'd be a much greater symmetry to the responses. So we'd also be able to conclude (even more than the figures currently suggest) that "Non-white Americans support the right to protest injustice — unless the protesters are white."
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It would be interesting to see more detailed results by race and income groupings.
Derec
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I think this is true. Especially in the last year we have seen predominantly black protests in places like Ferguson that were characterized by a) highly questionable causes and b) deterioration into rioting, looting and arson.
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When has that not been the case. When Ida B. Wells was lobbying congress to pass an anti lynching law and some white people felt that her protestations against "injustice" were not based on actual injustice. What's your point? That there are always white folk who fail to see injustice perpetrated against non-white people? If so, I agree.
For example no matter how blatantly unjusitifed the shoot there will be some whites proclaiming the cops did no wrong. That sort of thing doesn't make our country better.
You seem to be branding yourself here. I'm thinking of things like the local case where the car thief pointed realistic replica gun at the cop and got shot for it. There's no dispute about the facts of the case yet plenty of griping trying to blame the cop. (For example, he should have waited for backup. Never mind that that's exactly what he was doing when the driver pulled the stunt.)
I have yet to see a protest like you describe. There are some law & order types on the web that might say that, they don't take to the streets.
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I am not branding anything. I am not a rancher.
I'm supposed to know your local cases now?
Well evidently there is dispute over the facts, because people are disputing them.
Oh you have seen them, you just won't see them that way.
If cops (you know the trained professionals who are supposed to protect and serve) stop killing black folk for such high crimes and misdemeanors as holding toy guns and selling loosies, that will definitely cut down on the number of people taking to the streets.
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maybe their "o" key is sticky... perhaps they meant "the shot"... as in, "the shot was justified". I really don't think the intention was to imply the cops go on "nigger shoots", and that it is sometimes justified.
